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Culture clash as American school bans kilt
scotsman.com ^ | 12/06/05 | WILL SPRINGER

Posted on 12/14/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum

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To: LexBaird

I think it's the on-the-toes pose that looks so dainty.


161 posted on 12/14/2005 2:58:04 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: Tax-chick

Mostly due to the 40 degree slope of the hill I was on. But, thanks; I don't think I've ever been called dainty before. Guess I can forget the diet!


162 posted on 12/14/2005 3:05:08 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: LexBaird

That explains it - I retract the description.


163 posted on 12/14/2005 3:06:28 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: camle

there isn't the little furry thing in the middle (go ahead, pick up on that one!)

It's there, under the kilt.


164 posted on 12/14/2005 3:09:06 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Churchillspirit

But you are not talking about the kilt... rather you are talking about accessories and assigning them to the kilt. I could likewise assert that anyone who did not wear the balmoral bonnet with a kilt was not formal.


165 posted on 12/14/2005 3:35:14 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: wideawake
Re: name changing

I knew a chap in college whose name was Maharg. Seems a lad a few ancestors back fled to America and changed his name...from Graham. It happens, it's legit in the case I mention, and it could very well be the case in this boy's history. We ought not be so quick to paint such tales as "simply not believable," "silly," "implausable" and "pure mythology."

166 posted on 12/14/2005 4:10:23 PM PST by shezza (born a Scot, married a Scot named Scott)
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To: Churchillspirit

Yep. Proms they may look nice, weddings usually...but I can't get my son to wear pants that aren't two sizes to big...But his brother did rent a tux for his school prom. This one, if I could get him into slacks and a tucked in shirt, I would be amazed.


167 posted on 12/14/2005 5:03:52 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: taxcontrol
You would not wear a balmoral (bonnet is superfluous) with a formal highland wear outfit.

Where do you get your info?

168 posted on 12/14/2005 5:08:47 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I wonder if the next generation will rebel against the casual look of today and revert to the old suit, collar and tie look?


169 posted on 12/14/2005 5:11:34 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: Churchillspirit

I wouldn't be surprised if they did!


170 posted on 12/14/2005 5:27:39 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Churchillspirit
Wow, you have totally managed to miss my point. But to address your specific question.

Balmoral describes a type of bonnet. The term balmoral can also be used to describe "a heavy, laced walking shoe". It can also be used to describe a jacket usually worn with a kilt. Since there are other things other than a bonnet, by adding the term bonnet, it is a clarification. Further, there are other types of bonnets worn with the kilt namely the Glengarry bonnet, again a clarification. It is not superfluous, it's called English.

While I was using the Balmoral bonnet as one example, I could have easily said that "formal ware" requires a fox tail sporran with Glengarry bonnet and a Prince Charles Jacket or any number of accessories. While such additions
do enhance the appearance of the wearer, there are so many variations that to define one specific type of dress as being the only accepted Scottish formal ware is a vary narrow view of Scottish fashion.

My POINT was that a kilt is a specific article of dress. It does NOT encompass jackets, pins, bonnets, sporrans or other ACCESSORIES. Further, it is also quite possible that the young man was over dressed for the occasion. The absence of a jacket and short sleeves could also support the concept that the dance was not as formal of an affair as you assume.
171 posted on 12/15/2005 10:05:13 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
Again I ask - where on earth do you acquire your information?

I have been in the Highland Wear business for more than twenty years and nothing you say has any relevance to accepted attire.

172 posted on 12/16/2005 8:11:58 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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