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"Paradise Lost" (Washington Post re: Lesbians' Exit from Virginia)
The Washington Post ^ | 12/18/05 | Michelle Boorstein

Posted on 12/18/2005 5:42:02 PM PST by tsipple

Barbara Kenny's eyes narrow as she cranks the faucet in a freshly painted bathroom of what will soon be her new home in Frederick. [....]

"This just makes me madder and madder," Barbara says, staring out the window at the bare February landscape. "I mean, this is a perfectly fine house, it's just not where we want to be."

Where they want to be is Virginia, in the little townhouse in downtown Fredericksburg they've owned for 17 years, in the community they've come to treasure. It took them three decades of isolation and living in the closet to find Fredericksburg, and come out as lesbians. [....]

[They] were watching television in their living room rocking chairs in the summer of 2004 when they heard the news they'd been dreading for months. A new law in Virginia had taken effect, called the Affirmation of Marriage Act. It declared that couples like them were not entitled to any of the benefits or protections that straight, married couples got. [....]

For Barbara and Tibby, the legal language it used was scary: A civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement between persons of the same sex purporting to bestow the privileges or obligations of marriage is prohibited and such an arrangement entered into in another state or jurisdiction is void in Virginia and any contractual rights created thereby are void and unenforceable.

Tibby initially refused to believe that the legislation was aimed at Barbara and her. They were law-abiding, low-key Virginians, people who ran their neighborhood homeowners association, called bingo nights at the firehouse and served on their church's board of trustees. "That's not meant to include us. It means people who come from other states," Tibby said with her typically earnest tone to Barbara, who responded with a typically skeptical look.

[Continues....]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: civilunions; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lesbians; marriage; victimology
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1 posted on 12/18/2005 5:42:03 PM PST by tsipple
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To: tsipple

"honey, is it time to clean the carpet?"


2 posted on 12/18/2005 5:44:26 PM PST by brivette
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To: tsipple

"The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name has become The Love That Won't Shut The F#ck Up"


3 posted on 12/18/2005 5:44:36 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: tsipple

For a community that supposedly has and agenda and strategic planning it is particularly stupid to whine that they have to leave the state because of a protection of marriage act.... Do they think the people who supported this act will change their minds if it causes gay people to leave the state?


4 posted on 12/18/2005 5:46:34 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: tsipple
For Barbara and Tibby, the legal language it used was scary

Oh, Pulleeezzz.

5 posted on 12/18/2005 5:47:07 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: tsipple

Nobody is forcing them out. They are free to live whatever life they please.

But we are no longer compelled to recognise it.


6 posted on 12/18/2005 5:47:19 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: tsipple
For Barbara and Tibby, the legal language it used was scary

Ooohhhh, scarrrrrryyyyy. Everything we don't like is so scarrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Everybody who doesn't do what we want is so scarrrryyyyy. We're so scarrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddd. We better run, we better hide, big bad meanies are so scarrrrrrrryyyyyyyy.

7 posted on 12/18/2005 5:49:14 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: tsipple

Trying to check if I give a damn.................Nope, stil don't.


8 posted on 12/18/2005 5:49:42 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: tsipple

There's always that pervert magnet called San Fransicko they can move to.


9 posted on 12/18/2005 5:49:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Psycho_Bunny

LOL!


10 posted on 12/18/2005 5:50:31 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: tsipple

So are they leaving or not?


11 posted on 12/18/2005 5:50:35 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: KellyAdmirer

bbbbbwwwwwaaaahhhhaaaaaa!!! Thanks, I needed that big laugh!!!


12 posted on 12/18/2005 5:51:37 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: tsipple
Barbara Kenny's eyes narrow as she cranks the faucet in a freshly painted bathroom of what will soon be her new home in Frederick...

My first thought after reading the initial few words was that she had a bad case of penis envy. Then, after reading further, MY eyes narrowed when I realized I'd have two angry, man-hating, shapeless, frumpy women who smell of wet dog in my community.

13 posted on 12/18/2005 5:52:52 PM PST by edpc
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To: tsipple

Let me see if I have this right. They've lived a great life for 17 years in a community that respects them, and just because a law affirming marriage between a man and woman (which has been the status quo for far more than the last 17 years), is approved by the voters, they feel like they have to move?

Yeesh.


14 posted on 12/18/2005 5:54:47 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: tsipple

Maybe they should move to MA.


15 posted on 12/18/2005 5:56:02 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: tsipple
What was that line again..?? Oh yeah...

Boo Friggin Hoo.


16 posted on 12/18/2005 5:56:22 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: xcamel

Agreed.


17 posted on 12/18/2005 5:57:46 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: KellyAdmirer

"For Barbara and Tibby, the legal language it used was scary"

Billy Bob and Miss Ewe sat on their porch when they heard the news. Billy Bob looked at Miss Ewe's sad woolen face, and said, "Next thing you know, it will mean us too." Miss Ewe, looked down at the carrot she was chewing on, and let out a sad, "baaaaa." And then lowered her head and nuzzled his knee.


18 posted on 12/18/2005 5:58:40 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("We've run out of ballots." -- Iraqi election official)
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To: tsipple
Shouldn't the headline read:

Pair of Dykes Lost....?

19 posted on 12/18/2005 5:59:01 PM PST by edpc
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To: tsipple
"For Barbara and Tibby, the legal language it used was scary:"

Boo!

20 posted on 12/18/2005 6:06:58 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: tsipple
"...people who ran their neighborhood homeowners association, called bingo nights at the firehouse and served on their church's board of trustees."

Sound like your classic nosy nibshits. Just like the kind of people who would abuse neighborhood homeowners association clauses in order to prevent outdoor barbeques, displaying Old Glory, kids playing in the yard, you name it.

21 posted on 12/18/2005 6:10:11 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name has become The Love That Won't Shut The F#ck Up"

HeeheeHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........Bravo! Bravo!


22 posted on 12/18/2005 6:11:20 PM PST by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: brivette
you owe me a keyboard. LOL.

"honey, is it time to clean the carpet?"

23 posted on 12/18/2005 6:17:14 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

lol.


25 posted on 12/18/2005 6:22:08 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
ROFLMAO! But how true. And just in time for the Christmas season, we have the tale of two shepherds in 'Bareback', err, I mean 'Brokeback' mountain.

This is what Federalism is supposed to mean.

26 posted on 12/18/2005 6:28:06 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: tsipple
I don’t have any problem understanding their position. I’m a man, married to a woman, and we can both be certain that were have the legal right to make binding arrangements insuring that we have the mutual authority to make decisions for each other should one of us become incapacitated, and that it would be very difficult for anyone else to interfere with this process.

But if this wasn’t the case, and my partner was a man, there is a good chance that such a decision might be made for me by a blood relative who I have no assurance would honor my wishes, and who I have good reason to suppose might attempt to thwart them.

Wanting to ban gay marriage is one thing.

Writing a law which may have the result of nullifying someone’s preference on matters such as the validity of medical directives is quite another, and to do seems to me at best careless and at worst mean-spirited.
27 posted on 12/18/2005 6:29:50 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: edpc

LOL


28 posted on 12/18/2005 6:38:03 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: tsipple

Geez...is there some sort of 'master template' so-called journalists download every time they 'write' one of these whiny articles? They all seem to read the same way, and they ALL include the pre-requisite "scared". Gag me. No, wait...never mind.


29 posted on 12/18/2005 6:42:18 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: All

For Barbara and Tibby, the legal language it used was scary.

30 posted on 12/18/2005 6:46:09 PM PST by dighton
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To: tsipple
Um, sorry, I just misread:

"Lesbians' Exit from Virginia"
31 posted on 12/18/2005 6:49:25 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name has become The Love That Won't Shut The F#ck Up"

An absolutely perfect summary.

32 posted on 12/18/2005 7:00:45 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Writing a law which may have the result of nullifying someone’s preference on matters such as the validity of medical directives is quite another, and to do seems to me at best careless and at worst mean-spirited.

Power Of Attorney is Power Of Attorney, whether it is wielded by one's spouse, friend or lover.

What we have just read is an elaborate exercise in gay propaganda.

34 posted on 12/18/2005 7:04:49 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican; All

35 posted on 12/18/2005 7:05:44 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

excellent!


36 posted on 12/18/2005 7:06:41 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: tsipple

Aren't there a lot of lesbian witches around Frederick (as in Wiccan)? There's more to this story than a law that basically did nothing to change their lifestyle in any way.


37 posted on 12/18/2005 7:11:31 PM PST by EverOnward (help support our hero soldiers at anysoldier.com)
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To: tsipple

Frederick isn't exactly an enclave for diversity either. Why don't they just move to Frisco and be done with it?


38 posted on 12/18/2005 7:14:53 PM PST by YourAdHere (Viking kitties taste like chicken.)
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To: tsipple

"scary" in a story always means its raw dump Demo propaganda.


39 posted on 12/18/2005 7:15:58 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg

Well good luck with tacking on a ...


40 posted on 12/18/2005 7:27:47 PM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg; okie01

"I would eschew the word 'safe' for the moment," says Edward D. Barnes, founder of Virginia's largest family law practice and former head of the Virginia Bar Association's family law section... For now, he says, gays and lesbians need to seek out expert legal help and pray that their documents can withstand any potential legal challenge. "Since there's been no interpretation of this law, no one could give an ironclad" guarantee that wills and medical directives won't be affected, he says."


41 posted on 12/18/2005 7:33:10 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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"Since there's been no interpretation of this law, no one could give an ironclad" guarantee that wills and medical directives won't be affected, he says."

Which is absolutely true and exactly the advice any good lawyer would give -- whenever any new law is enacted.

But, when the law IS interpreted, it will (almost certainly) be found that there has been no effect on conventional already-legal arrangements.

42 posted on 12/18/2005 7:39:29 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

This is legal mumbo jumbo. If I can generate a living will, divorce papers, or a power of attorney with a PC program (idiot's guide to ....), why can't these people. Why do lawyers have to get involved with every damn thing we do to make it valid?


43 posted on 12/18/2005 7:56:20 PM PST by sgtyork (jack murtha and the media -- unconditional surrender used to mean the enemy surrendered)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"Trying to check if I give a damn.................Nope, stil don't."

It sounds like your Give A Damn is still broken. Ain't ya ever gonna get yer Give A Damn fixed? ;-)


44 posted on 12/18/2005 8:02:25 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: okie01
"Writing a law which may have the result of nullifying someone’s preference on matters such as the validity of medical directives is quite another, and to do seems to me at best careless and at worst mean-spirited.

Power Of Attorney is Power Of Attorney, whether it is wielded by one's spouse, friend or lover.

What we have just read is an elaborate exercise in gay propaganda."

You are correct in your entire post, including the power of attorney aspect. The Washington Post at it's finest, once again. Notice that the article portrays two older lesbians who have allegedly been in a monogamous relationship for a number of years. This was NOT done by accident, but was a calculated move to show the subject manner in the best possible light. The subjects were chosen for their "appeal" factor. Do the people who write and publish this drivel think the readers are stupid?
45 posted on 12/18/2005 8:09:58 PM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
and served on their church's board of trustees.

Wonder what brand of church.

46 posted on 12/18/2005 8:12:52 PM PST by PAR35
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To: khnyny
Do the people who write and publish this drivel think the readers are stupid?

Well - they're reading the WP, aren't they? LOL

47 posted on 12/18/2005 8:21:02 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

No $hit!!


48 posted on 12/18/2005 8:37:47 PM PST by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: edpc

...with an agenda no doubt!


49 posted on 12/18/2005 8:47:15 PM PST by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I would be LOL if it was not so sadly true.
50 posted on 12/18/2005 8:49:57 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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