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Swinger's club draws opposition
Wisconsin News ^ | 12-19-05

Posted on 12/19/2005 6:16:18 PM PST by SJackson

New Haven's lawyer says a fight with the adult club could be tough and expensive A "swingers" club opened in New Haven Township despite a new ordinance attempting to regulate adult-oriented entertainment in the rural township.

The town board members and residents expressed disapproval and tried unsuccessfully to discuss the new club with one of its owners at the board's regular meeting Thursday night.

Michael J. Bennin, who along with David Holman are listed as owners of the facility called Club WetSpot, refused to answer questions at the public meeting. He said his attorney, Jeff Scott Olson, was unavailable and several times responded to questions about the business by saying he could not answer questions without his attorney present.

He did say his attorney said the club doesn't fit under the town's ordinance. That ordinance was adopted by the town in September, before the club opened.

The club is listed on the Web site of NASCA, an organization for those who enjoy the "swinging" lifestyle. In a question and answer section on that group's Web site the lifestyle is described as primarily for couples who enjoy sex with those who are not their partners. That can be either with a single person or with groups. It notes that single men and women can attend.

On the local club's Web site, it says that single men need a sponsor for admission. Single women and couples apparently don't. The Web site indicates that people attending should bring their own liquor, but the club supplies mixers.

Town Chairman Bob Krause said he visited with Bennin at the club last week and gave him a copy of the ordinance. At that time Bennin claimed to be unaware of the ordinance, Krause said.

The club, located on Gillette Drive in Adams County, is on the site of a former recycling center. Krause said the property sold for $100,000 and the 12,000 square foot building on it has been partially remodeled for the new club. The club is in about 4,500 square feet within the building. A two-story structure has been constructed within the building, bathrooms have been added, heating added and rewiring, Krause said.

No building permits have been issued for the structure, and they are required by Adams County. Krause also said no well or septic permits have been issued. He said the club relies on a holding tank, but another person at the meeting said he thought new septic tanks had been installed.

The county has not inspected the place, Krause said, because it does not have a certified commercial building inspector. The county's building inspectors are certified for home inspections, he said, and did not want to inspect the commercial site fearing a lawsuit.

The county's zoning administrator was not available for comment Friday.

The town's attorney, Eric J. Pollex said businesses like these are designed to get around ordinances. He also indicated that the club's attorney, Olson, travels the country defending adult-oriented establishments.

"It's (the ordinance) is crystal clear that it applies to strip club and applies to any adult-oriented business," said Pollex, who wrote the ordinance.

Krause said ordinances like New Haven's are difficult to enforce, because the clubs claim they impinge on 1st Amendment rights to free speech.

Pollex said quietly when Krause finished speaking, "if not done right."

"This will be a big fight and it's going to be tough," Pollex told the board. He said he did not agree that the club was "outside the box" set up by the ordinance. The downside of fighting the club's operation would be that if the town loses it would have to pay the club's attorney fees, he said. That could be as high as $500 per hour and could reach $600,000 or more.

Becky and Ken Hutchinson, who live next door to the club and have two children, said, "We don't need this." Becky Hutchinson said the club has a lot of traffic and patrons come out and "talk trash" that can be heard by the children. The Hutchinsons' home is about 30 feet from the club, which has put up a fence.

Ken Hutchinson said that during construction, he was approached and asked if his well could be used. He agreed and was given $100. He understood that the use would only be during construction, but the well continues to be used.

Pollex asked Hutchinson to call him to discuss that situation in private.

Pollex also said he would call or meet with the club's attorney and notify the board of the results of that meeting. He did advise the board to put the subject on its next meeting agenda. That meeting is scheduled for Jan. 19 at 7 p.m.

The NASCA Web site lists seven other clubs in Wisconsin in Kenosha, Oshkosh, Janesville, Madison, Merrillan and Milwaukee.


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---No building permits have been issued for the structure, and they are required by Adams County.

---no well or septic permits have been issued.

---The county has not inspected the place because it does not have a certified commercial building inspector.

But as the owners likely know, important for a town of less than 700

The downside of fighting the club's operation would be that if the town loses it would have to pay the club's attorney fees, he said. That could be as high as $500 per hour and could reach $600,000 or more.

1 posted on 12/19/2005 6:16:18 PM PST by SJackson
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don't know if it's worth a ping.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 6:16:51 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: SJackson

Time to put on some Sinatra records.


3 posted on 12/19/2005 6:18:09 PM PST by battlegearboat
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To: SJackson

They're life's losers. Let em swing and save the hassle, taxpayers bucks, etc...Who really cares?


4 posted on 12/19/2005 6:23:05 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: SJackson

Trash talking in the parking lot? What no pictures?


5 posted on 12/19/2005 6:23:52 PM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: SJackson
The club is listed on the Web site of NASCA, an organization for those who enjoy the "swinging" lifestyle. In a question and answer section on that group's Web site the lifestyle is described as primarily for couples who enjoy sex with those who are not their partners

My ex-wife didn't need a fancy "club".

6 posted on 12/19/2005 6:25:54 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: kcar

I do.
BTTT


7 posted on 12/19/2005 6:26:50 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom

Why do you care? I'd really like to understand why people want to stop these things. I know it's easier to explain to children that certain people aren't right as rain when they are banished from view, but that ain't forever and maybe the visibility today is better left to a parent's explanations then to a dial-it-futureward strategy.


8 posted on 12/19/2005 6:37:16 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: SJackson

"On the local club's Web site, it says that single men need a sponsor for admission. Single women and couples apparently don't. "

Is gender discrimination at a public business legal? Didn't some bars get in trouble for having different prices for men and women?


9 posted on 12/19/2005 6:38:06 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: SJackson; odoso; animoveritas; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; Unam Sanctam; EdReform; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Free speeh? Free speech should be what it was intended to mean - the spoken and written word.

Isn't it amazing to what vile depths our country has sunk? So a club dedicated to fornication and adultery can open where ever it wants, in a regular neighborhood, breaking local rules, and already plans to fight, hoping to break the bank of the small town?

I know I'm bad, but I say gas can and lighter.

Or local people walking up and down in front of it with camberas and signs 24/7. Signs like "We don't want an adultery and fornication club in our town".

Ask yourself - why is illicit sex now holy and protected? What happened in the last couple of generations? And if anyone thinks that wild sexual behavior does not have terrible ramifications, such a person is eiather an adolescent in age or emotional maturity.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


10 posted on 12/19/2005 6:40:30 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: neodad

I knew a couple that went to bars and whichever partner got picked up the other went home and watched. Weird folks but they are still partners. They own a used car lot. I guess you could say "Think Used"


11 posted on 12/19/2005 6:42:41 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The alphabet channels --spying for the enemy.)
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To: little jeremiah

Weeell.. A gas can and lighter might be an actual violation of the First Amendment. Let me see here. Yes I think it is! But protesting the place with cameras and signs might be an expression of your First Amendment rights. Yes - I think there's a real difference to your proposed solutions there...


12 posted on 12/19/2005 6:48:08 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: kcar; battlegearboat; claptrap; neodad; sarasmom; gondramB; little jeremiah; sgtbono2002
Why do you care? I'd really like to understand why people want to stop these things.

Because they care about their lousy little rural Wisconsin town.

These guys may have picked the wrong site. Six or seven years ago Perrier, after being turned down for a water plant site west of Milwaukee (??) decided they'd head for the sticks where no one could afford the legal fees. They picked New Haven, where the citizens didn't want a water plant. After a fight of several years, which included a recall of several town officials which the New York Times (??) addressed as anarchy, Perrier gave up their plans and built in Michigan.

13 posted on 12/19/2005 6:49:41 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: SJackson

Wow - they own the whole (lousy rural Wisconsin) town? Simple then - just don't go there it will shrivel up and die. I don't like VHS - gone! Off the channel rotation even. Maybe it's still care maybe I don't care.


14 posted on 12/19/2005 6:55:24 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: SJackson
Club WetSpot

Classy. : )

15 posted on 12/19/2005 7:00:01 PM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: kcar
Why do you care? I'd really like to understand why people want to stop these things.

I think all of these kind of places should be built right beside the homes of folks who think as you do.

16 posted on 12/19/2005 7:01:22 PM PST by jla
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To: SJackson
Image hosted by Photobucket.com the "Swingers Club" round here in the 70's was a small hotel and bar where after getting sufficiently liquored up the women all went to their rooms and the keys were all put into a hat that the men drew from...
17 posted on 12/19/2005 7:03:51 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: jla

Property is the root of all freedoms. I don't own the town I live in, only a single plot within it. That one's mine. So that's all I control. Should such an enterprise move nearby, values will have declined a decade in advance such that I will have moved. Just like changing the channel.


18 posted on 12/19/2005 7:06:07 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: kcar
NIMBY.

And definitely not when it is already against the law in that community.
If you want what is universally described as licentious and immoral "sexual freedom" in the "privacy of your own bedroom" and are all consenting adults, fine.
If you choose to make your "private sexual choices obnoxiously public", the public has the right to denounce your obnoxious choices as abhorrent to existing community standards, and unwelcome.
It becomes my business when you make your private sexual practices public.
No, I do not have to pretend I think sexual perverts are normal. Nor must I tolerate sexual perverts conducting sexual acts in public.
Why do you think I should?
19 posted on 12/19/2005 7:09:24 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: kcar
Property is the root of all freedoms.

Agreed.

I don't own the town I live in, only a single plot within it. That one's mine. So that's all I control. Should such an enterprise move nearby, values will have declined a decade in advance such that I will have moved. Just like changing the channel.

But I thought enterprises like this were victimless??

20 posted on 12/19/2005 7:14:37 PM PST by jla
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To: kcar

"They're life's losers. Let em swing and save the hassle, taxpayers bucks, etc...Who really cares?"


...

They're also known as bug chasers(STD needy) just like queers who are permiscUous to a fault or eventual HIV death. I call them Darwins runner ups.


21 posted on 12/19/2005 7:15:19 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: sarasmom

It just goes by who owns the property. Unless they are conducting acts of licentiousness in public, well then that could be different. Is that what's being alleged? Or rather, are they just charging money for this business, which is necessarily "public" because the government inserts itself more anywhere where money changes hands to tax whatever activity caused that to happen?


22 posted on 12/19/2005 7:15:51 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: little jeremiah
So a club dedicated to fornication and adultery can open where ever it wants, in a regular neighborhood

It doesn't sound like a "regular neighborhood," and nothing sounds like it has changed from the outside: From the article:

The club, located on Gillette Drive in Adams County, is on the site of a former recycling center. Krause said the property sold for $100,000 and the 12,000 square foot building on it has been partially remodeled for the new club. The club is in about 4,500 square feet within the building. A two-story structure has been constructed within the building, bathrooms have been added, heating added and rewiring, Krause said.

I know I'm bad, but I say gas can and lighter.

And I say long prison sentence for anyone engaged in or promoting a conspiracy for arson.

23 posted on 12/19/2005 7:19:35 PM PST by MRMEAN (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: SunnySide

I agree: Queers might also be Darwin dead-enders if we just gave them that freedom. Come out of the closet - just enjoy - don't procreate. Done.


24 posted on 12/19/2005 7:19:56 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: MRMEAN

So I should go to jail for suggesting in a non-serious vein gas can and lighter?

If people want to screw like animals let them keep their private business private. Like out of the public view, in the privacy of their own bedrooms, stables, and what not.


25 posted on 12/19/2005 7:23:12 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: jla

Okay if you can't move, build a big fence.


26 posted on 12/19/2005 7:24:05 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: sarasmom

Excellent points, well said.


27 posted on 12/19/2005 7:24:39 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: sarasmom
Excellent points!!

I agree completely. Though unfortunately, it is up to the locals to decide. Just pray there aren't any Machiavellian hoodlums running the township board.

28 posted on 12/19/2005 7:26:59 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Save Christmas, Screw the ACLU)
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To: little jeremiah
If people want to screw like animals let them keep their private business private. Like out of the public view, in the privacy of their own bedrooms, stables, and what not

Agree...and by doing in a 4500 square foot building, built inside an existing 12000 square foot structure, around which they've built a new fence, it sounds like they they've done everything reasonably possible to keep it out of public view.

29 posted on 12/19/2005 7:29:08 PM PST by MRMEAN (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: SJackson

Um...Adams County? I think they have the largest ratio of First Cousin marriages in the state.

Maybe this "Swingers" club will save the bloodline? LOL! ;)

Is it better if you "swing" with a second cousin or an Uncle? I'm a little rusty on my biology...


30 posted on 12/19/2005 7:29:31 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It looks like some folks haven't heard of what goes on in Black River Falls in mid July.

That town loves the nudists and the swingers.

L

31 posted on 12/19/2005 7:32:31 PM PST by Lurker (And everyday the paperboy brings more...)
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To: little jeremiah

Well if you can agree that your gas can and lighter is a non-serious threat, I guess I can agree that they should keep their private business private. Let's shake on it okay?


32 posted on 12/19/2005 7:33:22 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: MRMEAN

"and by doing in a 4500 square foot building, built inside an existing 12000 square foot structure, around which they've built a new fence, it sounds like they've done everything reasonably possible to keep it out of public view."


... the same type of reinforced buildings exist in far off foreign lands even in Mexico except they have broken glass cemented at the top of the security walls(Courtesy of The Montel Williams Show), work better than barb wire so rescuers can't help rescue and free the poor abducted girls who've been kidnapped and thrown into sex slavery while they were on vacation.


33 posted on 12/19/2005 7:35:06 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: SunnySide

If you're alleging sex-slavery and abduction then I'll await more facts. Have you notified the authorities? Bust them hard if this it the case.


34 posted on 12/19/2005 7:38:04 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Is it better if you "swing" with a second cousin or an Uncle? I'm a little rusty on my biology...

Neither. Keep in mind that a second cousin would be the child of your first cousin. In other words, you and your second cousin have common great-grandparents.

In most places in the U.S. and from what I know from my PoliSci classes and my rather limited genealogical experience, second cousin and closer is generally considered in American politics, society, culture, and law to be too close to kin for marriage and sex, therefore, any sexual contact is considered to be incestuous in nature. NOTE: I am also not a lawyer or a geneaologist.

As for Adams Co. I can't validate that tidbit, though I do know a few people from college who've lived there.

35 posted on 12/19/2005 7:41:29 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Save Christmas, Screw the ACLU)
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To: SJackson

Alright. I'll be serious. I wouldn't want this perversion anywhere near me, though now I know there's one right in my back yard in Madison.

Oh, Joy. Oh, Happiness.

When will our country be Freak Free? Never? Oh, Ok. I'll just hunker down even more than usual then. Really. I don't mind. Just ignore MY rights as a taxpayer, and stay the h#ll off of my land.

Really. Anyone within reading range just needs to watch their pennies and buy themselves a few acres in the country. That way, while we'll be isolated from the caring, compassionate neighbors we used to have, we can now avoid the freaks that have taken over our local neighborhoods in our respective states.

Divide, divide, divide. Break down our society as much as possible. Pretty soon, we won't even have to talk to one another here on FR and we can all be isolated from one another forever. That makes for a very good country, don't you think? :(


36 posted on 12/19/2005 7:42:12 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Lurker
I've seen them every time I went through there on my way up, and on my way down from UW-Stout last year. It seems that all the adult shops go up in the spring, and can't be seen during the fall and winter.
37 posted on 12/19/2005 7:43:30 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Save Christmas, Screw the ACLU)
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To: SunnySide
... the same type of reinforced buildings exist in far off foreign lands even in Mexico except they have broken glass cemented at the top of the security walls(Courtesy of The Montel Williams Show), work better than barb wire so rescuers can't help rescue and free the poor abducted girls who've been kidnapped and thrown into sex slavery while they were on vacation.

LOL!...(you are joking, right?)

38 posted on 12/19/2005 7:44:00 PM PST by MRMEAN (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Neither. Keep in mind that a second cousin would be the child of your first cousin. In other words, you and your second cousin have common great-grandparents.

Correction, that would be the child of your parent's first cousin.

39 posted on 12/19/2005 7:44:46 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Save Christmas, Screw the ACLU)
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To: kcar

A person would have to go undercover in such places like this one discussed in this thread to gather proof. But I'll stick with my cynical, often correct assumption that swingers(sex addicts) are no different than heroin junkies. Their addiction(s) or addictive transference keep growing in numbers and depravity. I read articles and have spoken with authorities and watch many television shows which consistently conclude that, where there's a swinger there's a pedophile not far behind. Remember the VanDam girl in California, her parents were swingers and their free for all sexcapades delivered their own child to Satans own hands. God rest her soul.

Swingers = garbage in, garbage out.


40 posted on 12/19/2005 7:46:04 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: SJackson; Dashing Dasher; Eaker; patton; humblegunner
Ya just can't make stuff like this up....former recycling center now a wife swappers club .....gheeesh....how cheesy !
41 posted on 12/19/2005 7:49:46 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: MRMEAN

No, I don't think this is a funny topic. Maybe you do but then your name says it all.

Caucasus island was a place mentioned on the Montel Show where abducted young women are kept. Is that funny to you too? Sicko


42 posted on 12/19/2005 7:52:27 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Lurker

LOL.....Wow that's horrible !.....you ahhh have a map ?


43 posted on 12/19/2005 7:56:48 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: SunnySide

You know when it starts raining this hard it's time to get some shut-eye. Goodnight all. We live in the land of the free and the brave. Merry Christmas.


44 posted on 12/19/2005 7:59:25 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: SunnySide

On every thread you are, insinuating that nonsense. Sex slavery and the human trade in general are serious subjects but you see a conspiracy to traffic in humans EVERYWHERE and thus you attack ad hominem anyone who defends property or privacy rights as somehow being in favor of or aiding sex slavery.

You are bizarre.


45 posted on 12/19/2005 8:01:25 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Skywalk

"You are bizarre",

said Satan with his fork tongue.



....

Hola, bug chaser.


46 posted on 12/19/2005 8:04:04 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Skywalk

I wish I had a dollar for every time that bizarre person has been suspended for being so . . . well . . . bizarre.


47 posted on 12/19/2005 8:05:40 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: MRMEAN

Nope, it's a business. Not a private home, stable, or outhouse, where such activites should be taking place. Plus the fact that the owners of this crap are partners with or hiring someone who tours the country supporting their practice of setting up shop in small towns. Going against the town laws, and then suing, so the small town can't afford to fight them.

If they want it private, keep it in someone's house, stable, or outhouse, where it belongs.


48 posted on 12/19/2005 8:06:27 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: SJackson

Private swinging between freaks is not my business but if they neighborhood doesn't want it then so be it.

We have titty bars, adult books, queer wanker booth-joints, massage parlors, turkish baths, private dancers.....and Swingers clubs of all types within the same zoning overlay here in nashville....basically in a ring around downtown

and a new Hustler store too..


49 posted on 12/19/2005 8:07:03 PM PST by wardaddy (They took most of my Dixie heritage......they'll have to take Christmas from my cold dead hands)
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To: Petronski

... and then you woke up.


50 posted on 12/19/2005 8:08:10 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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