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Democrats Say They Didn't Back Wiretapping
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 12/20/2005 | KATHERINE SHRADER

Posted on 12/20/2005 6:30:32 AM PST by The_Victor

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To: Tarpon

"..War is for protecting your life, not your civil liberties.."


liberals say we don't have wars, we do police action


41 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:52 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: syriacus

Jay Rockefeller is John D. Rockefeller, IV. His father, John D. Rockefeller, III, was born in 1906.


42 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:57 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: The_Victor
Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said in a handwritten letter to Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003. "As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney."

I just play one on TV....

43 posted on 12/20/2005 6:54:03 AM PST by Always Right
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To: The_Victor
Democrats continue to prove they are incompetent at governing.

A sure winning strategy.
44 posted on 12/20/2005 6:54:25 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the Marines of 3/1.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Well, they are stupid enough. They have attacked Bush all year long and got his approval numbers down because he did not fight back.

No..no..they attacked the war, which is not stupid. Attacking Bush for wire-tapping suspected Al Qaeda or "torturing" Al Qaeda is not the same thing. It's a loser.

45 posted on 12/20/2005 6:54:39 AM PST by bkepley
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To: NYCVirago
Why, again, did Bush prop up this guy (Spector) against Toomey, and then not get rid of him as Judiciary chairman after the election?

All we are saying, is give cancer a chance.

46 posted on 12/20/2005 6:54:57 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("Spare the rod, spoil the liberal.")
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To: PMCarey
"As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney."

I just play one on TV.

47 posted on 12/20/2005 6:55:01 AM PST by Always Right
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
If one is functioning in the real world, and not moon-bat LaLa land, it's easy to see that this is total BS because thad they been opposed they would have leaked this 4 years ago. That they didn't do this is proof that they had no problem with it. That's the way Washington works.

I think you give them too much credit. They didn't oppose it because they didn't understand it. In fact, they still don't understand it. But they do understand politics and they think this is a political opportunity and they're going to run with it until the story dies out. I'm amazed by how often the Dems are now using incompetence as a defense.

48 posted on 12/20/2005 6:55:35 AM PST by PMCarey
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To: philo; The_Victor

The Rockefeller memo...


49 posted on 12/20/2005 6:55:36 AM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: Tarpon
BTW, if you read the 9/11 Omission report they cite FISA as being too slow and cumbersome for fighting terrorists in the new information age.

Also it is too restrictive. When the FBI wanted to search the computer of Moussari (one of the 9/11/ plotters) the FISA request was turned down as not meeting the standard of probably cause. THIS WAS BEFORE THE 9/11 ATTACK. FISA rules may be the cause of the success of the 9/11 attack.

50 posted on 12/20/2005 6:55:54 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud off it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
If one is functioning in the real world, and not moon-bat LaLa land, it's easy to see that this is total BS because thad they been opposed they would have leaked this 4 years ago. That they didn't do this is proof that they had no problem with it. That's the way Washington works.

Indeed. The President called their bluff about not knowing about it. The letters that Pelosi and Rockefeller wrote were written with the idea of giving them cover when the activities were revealed at some future time, which is now. But at least they can't say they didn't know about it.

51 posted on 12/20/2005 6:56:16 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: The_Victor
"I feel unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse, these activities," West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said

It sure didn't stop you from going to the Middle East to warn that Iraq would be attacked, did it, you traitorous butthead!

52 posted on 12/20/2005 6:57:37 AM PST by NRA1995 (Jesus is the reason for the season)
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To: syriacus
I believe Pelosi said Rockefeller has the letter...in other words, he wrote it but never sent it....put it in a sealed envelope and saved it.

So how would one verify when it was REALLY written??

He could have walked it to the VP's office if he wanted to.

Please note that July 2003 is when Joe Wilson wrote his article, Novak shoved it to Joe and Valerie in HIS article. (Berger first burgled in June 2003).

53 posted on 12/20/2005 6:58:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Semi Civil Servant; All
"I feel unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse, these activities," West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said in a handwritten letter to Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003. "As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney."


If that "is" the case, then please, tell me WHY this moron is the "ranking" member of the SENATE INTELLEGIENCE COMMITTEE??? If HE doesn't know this stuff, AND ADMITS IT TO THE MSM, then HE needs to be on SOME other committee that he has a vague idea about, like (insert dumb rich kids club name, here).
54 posted on 12/20/2005 6:58:22 AM PST by Mr. Jazzy (Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
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To: PMCarey
Bwa-ha-ha!! Good one Democrats. Bush told you all about it but you lacked the competence to understand it. And you want to be put into power? Now THERE'S a position to run on! Do I see another RNC commercial in future? Hope so!

Well, considering the 2000 election aftermath, the democRAT voters claimed they weren't bright enough to figure out the FL ballot, the coupling of the democRAT politicians and their voters seems like a perfect match. I guess the democRATs are actively seeking to capture the stupid vote.

55 posted on 12/20/2005 6:59:11 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

The only thing Rockefeller and fellow WV Senator nit-wit understand is spending other peoples money. They are VERY good at that.


56 posted on 12/20/2005 7:01:01 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the Marines of 3/1.)
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To: All

Someone explain to me something. Did the president not say that this is reviewed every 45 days and that on 12 different occasions he gave info to Congress. If they had problems they had ample time to address this. WHat am I missing here. These people are truly incompetent. THey are relying solely on the "people" being stupid. Argh.


57 posted on 12/20/2005 7:01:16 AM PST by newconhere
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To: cpdiii
"National Security Council" in my post is in error.

I should have said Senate Intelligence Committee. I guess I made the error in thinking it was impossible that the word Intelligence and Rockefeller had anything in common, much less being juxtaposed in the same sentence.
58 posted on 12/20/2005 7:02:11 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud off it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: The_Victor

I would like to know what, if there is any, difference there is between these acts and the program Echelon.
Echelon has been in effect since at least 1998 and is designed to intercept calls between the US and other countries.

Isn't that what is being talked about by the dims??


59 posted on 12/20/2005 7:02:13 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: stocksthatgoup
"As you know, I am neither a technician nor intelligent."

Thats more accurate.

60 posted on 12/20/2005 7:02:19 AM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a keynote speaker at a Wellstone memorial.........!)
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