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Roberts Rakes Rockefeller
American Spectator ^ | Jed Babbin

Posted on 12/20/2005 10:58:25 AM PST by slowhand520

Roberts Rakes Rockefeller - Tuesday, December 20, 2005 @ 12:53:30 PM

Yesterday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), co-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee (and probable source of many leaks of secret information) released a hand-scrawled letter he had written to VP Cheney two years ago after being briefed on the NSA domestic intel effort. Rockefeller, trying to score political points, raised the letter as proof of his doubts about the NSA program, and that his hands were tied, unable to do anything about it. This morning, Intel Committee Chair Pat Roberts (R-KS) released this statement which blows Rockefeller out of the water:

"I am puzzled by the release yesterday of a July 2003 letter from Senator Rockefeller to the Vice President regarding the recently exposed intelligence collection program, which was authorized by the President shortly after September 11, 2001.

“In his letter and accompanying press statement, Senator Rockefeller asserts that he had lingering concerns about the program designed to protect the American people from another attack, but was prohibited from doing anything about it.

“A United States Senator has significant tools with which to wield power and influence over the executive branch. Feigning helplessness is not one of those tools.

“If Senator Rockefeller truly had the concerns he claimed to have had in his two and a half year old letter, he could have pursued a number of options to have those concerns addressed:

1. First, he could have discussed his concerns with me or other Members of Congress who had been briefed on the program. He never asked me or the Committee to take any action consistent with the “concerns” raised in his letter.

2. Second, he could have raised objections with the Vice President during one of the many briefings we received. I have no recollection of Senator Rockefeller objecting to the program at the many briefings he and I attended together. In fact, it is my recollection that on many occasions Senator Rockefeller expressed to the Vice President his vocal support for the program. His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago.

3. Finally, he could have pursued any number of legislative remedies. He chose to pursue none.

“Senator Rockefeller could have taken any of these approaches to adress his “lingering concerns.” He did not. He chose instead to write a letter to the Vice President and for two and a half years, keep a copy of the letter in the Intelligence Committee vault and say nothing to anyone.

“For the nearly three years Senator Rockefeller has served as Vice Chairman, I have heard no objection from him about this valuable program. Now, when it appears to be politically advantageous, Senator Rockefeller has chosen to release his two and a half year old letter. Forgive me if I find this to be inconsistent and a bit disingenuous.”

So do we, Sen. Roberts. So do we.

Posted By: Jed Babbin


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; jayrockefeller; jedbabbin; nsa; patriotleak; patroberts; roberts; rockefeller; senate; spying; tas
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To: Sacajaweau

I suppose Rockefeller was too petrified to use a typewriter to write this note. ;-)

Possibilities:

1) He never sent the letter.

2) He Just wrote it a few days ago.

3) He sent it, but made no effort to make sure it got special notice. If this last scenario is accurate, it was plotted 2-3 years in advance.

Any could be true.

What is key, though, is that Roberts states Rockefeller praised the program only two weeks ago. That nukes the letter, real, plotted or imagined.


101 posted on 12/20/2005 11:45:33 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: steelcurtain

As I have always said, Jay Rockefeller is dumber than West Virginia coal bucket.


102 posted on 12/20/2005 11:46:17 AM PST by old_sage_says (Reading FreeRepublic each day is as normal to me as my "morning constitutional".)
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To: Kimberly GG

I think its the wrong press release, sorry.


103 posted on 12/20/2005 11:46:38 AM PST by newconhere
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To: Kimberly GG

I think its the wrong press release, sorry.


104 posted on 12/20/2005 11:46:41 AM PST by newconhere
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To: Mike Darancette

Use a bat with a lead bar core too. Make Murtha, Schumer,Pelosi, Leahy and Kerry watch and assure them their fate will be the same. There will be no more leaks.


105 posted on 12/20/2005 11:47:16 AM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for America today: Insult an America hating leftie.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Covering the bases?


106 posted on 12/20/2005 11:47:53 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Kimberly GG

Good luck. :-)

You might even call Senator Robert's office to verify as well. They may have a link to a documented source on their own hard drives.


107 posted on 12/20/2005 11:48:10 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: MikeA

Side by side to Robert's statement is Stevens playing hardball with Dems/McCain/RINO's over ANWR. It is pretty amazing, isn't it? I'm a bit pleased with them today. It's an unusual condition. LOL


108 posted on 12/20/2005 11:49:31 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And on a side note, it must be fact because the WP says it is. Could that story be more emotional and sympathetic? Good Lord, it's so obvious that it is an insult to the itelligence of the reader.


109 posted on 12/20/2005 11:50:27 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: slowhand520

I am going to wait until I get Alan Colmes and Juan Williams analysis of this story. (/off)


110 posted on 12/20/2005 11:51:06 AM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: NRA1995

I'm more convinced today than ever that he is the mole who blabbed to the NYslimes. He should be removed from the committee post-haste. If I remember correctly added to the secret communication from his staff to undermine the President before the '04 election?


111 posted on 12/20/2005 11:51:09 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BigSkyFreeper
What he heard alarmed him so much that immediately afterward he wrote two identical letters, by hand...
112 posted on 12/20/2005 11:51:16 AM PST by debg
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To: conservativebabe

I really need to preview, geez.

intelligence


113 posted on 12/20/2005 11:51:32 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: slowhand520

Senator Jay Rockefeller Gave Syria Advance Warning Of Iraq War Intentions!

And, least we forget ...

Democrats Subvert War Intelligence (Remember "The Treason Memo"?)

115 posted on 12/20/2005 11:52:37 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Yesterday the 21-year Senate veteran from West Virginia released his copy of the letter -- which when written, was so sensitive he dared not allow a staffer to read it, let alone type it.

Sensitive is right. It's probably not good to let your staffers know that you can't tie your own shoes without their help. Poor Rock-head-fellar.

116 posted on 12/20/2005 11:52:40 AM PST by PMCarey
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To: BigSkyFreeper

What a big old steaming pile of ....


117 posted on 12/20/2005 11:52:57 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the Marines of 3/1.)
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To: conservativebabe

The Washington Post article also said, "...In hindsight, the letter seemed a rejoinder to President Bush's assertions that key congressional leaders were adequately briefed on the expanded NSA program and to his intimation that they did not seriously object."


118 posted on 12/20/2005 11:53:04 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: conservativebabe

The last paragraph of that article is the kicker. Bush has been vindicated from these charges that the Democrats say all this stuff has been done under total secrecy. Which is untrue. Both Republicans and Democrats have been briefed on a regular and routine basis since day one of his administration.


120 posted on 12/20/2005 11:55:39 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: Mike Darancette
No official date stamp....newspaper photograph....to verify when it was written AND THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY SENT.

One would assume.....under any circumstances...that he would want to get his reservations "on the record".

I noticed something in the letter where it begins "I am retaining this copy" (or something like that) .....etc.. The "I" is different from all others (I think). That would make me think he stopped...and began again and that this was done under duress. I think someone in his own party has something on him.....like maybe a woman in a stinkn' pantsuit.

I hope someone will post the letter again.

121 posted on 12/20/2005 11:55:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
" I love Sen Roberts!"
It was refreshing to see him exposed the dirty rotten filthy no good for what he is.
122 posted on 12/20/2005 11:56:05 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Soul Seeker

thank you.....I asked not because I question validity, but am curious to see if this is only a portion of what Roberts stated, if there was anything else mentioned in the release.


123 posted on 12/20/2005 11:56:58 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Mo1
I don't get why he didn't type it .. does he not have a computer??

Rockefeller probably hasn't gone near one since Manuel Miranda found his other memos.

-PJ

124 posted on 12/20/2005 11:57:52 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: conservativebabe

"Good to see some Pubbies playing hard ball for a change."

Not hard enough. When are they going to stand up and start calling these RAT politicians what they really are --TRAITORS -- and call for THEIR resignations, impeachment, censure, etc. like the RATs are doing to President Bush??!!


125 posted on 12/20/2005 11:58:02 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: conservativebabe

Senator Roberts sounds like he has had enough of Democrats showboating for the cameras. I wish Frist would get the message.


126 posted on 12/20/2005 11:58:17 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Lizarde
Cheney weighs in:

Cheney Defends Presidential Powers

127 posted on 12/20/2005 11:58:17 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: conservativebabe

It's starting to resemble Foster.....


128 posted on 12/20/2005 11:58:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: slowhand520
Yesterday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), co-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee

He's Vice Chairman...not Co-Chairman. He shouldn't even have that distinction.

129 posted on 12/20/2005 11:59:35 AM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: Democratshavenobrains

Frist has been very disappointing as leader. The Republicans, under his leadership are squandering the majority. We may lose this opportunity and not get it back for a while.


130 posted on 12/20/2005 12:00:42 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Soul Seeker

Is McCain opposing ANWR? Last I heard, he was for it.


131 posted on 12/20/2005 12:01:45 PM PST by MikeA
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To: BigSkyFreeper
In hindsight, the letter seemed a rejoinder to President Bush's assertions that key congressional leaders were adequately briefed on the expanded NSA program and to his intimation that they did not seriously object.

They were adequately briefed. Rockfellar was too damn dumb to understand what he was being told and did absolutely nothing to fix that position. As for not seriously objecting. Yeah whatever, if you call someone who complains that they don't have a clue about what they were just briefed on, objecting.

132 posted on 12/20/2005 12:03:02 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: Howlin; conservativebabe; Mo1; Peach
There is also this from Senator Pat Roberts from a week ago today. Looks like Harry Reid has been busy behind the scenes as well.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - December 13, 2005
CONTACT: Sarah Ross Little(202) 224-4774

Chairman Roberts Releases Statement on Progress of Intelligence Committee’s Phase II

WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senator Pat Roberts, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence today released the following statement regarding the Committee’s Review of Pre-War Intelligence on Iraq:

“I have just been made aware of a letter sent to the Republican Leader and Assistant Leader signed by the Democrat Leader and Assistant Leader.

“The letter is basically a partisan allegation about Phase II of the Intelligence Committee’s Review of Pre War Intelligence on Iraq. It alleges incorrectly that ‘critical questions remain about the committee’s progress on its investigation, its timeline for completing that investigation, and what remaining steps need to be taken to ensure a prompt, thorough, and complete review.’

“As an ex officio member of the Committee, Senator Reid is welcome to participate in any Committee activity including ‘Phase II.’ He has yet to do so.

“If the Democrat Leader has ‘critical questions’ he should pick up the phone and call me, or better yet, attend the business meeting scheduled for this Thursday when we will discuss all facets of our progress on ‘Phase II.’ I think he would be pleasantly surprised.”

133 posted on 12/20/2005 12:03:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: Dolphy
The Democrats cannot be trusted with the national security of the United States.

It is the Democrats who have sought to undermine our effort in Iraq by continually questioning the wisdom of of initiating that enterprise and falsely claiming that the President lied.

Democrats sought to weaken the President by claiming that the Afghan campaign was a quagmire until even they could no longer do so with a straight face.

Democrats in the Clinton administration believed our conflict with violent Islamic fundamentalism was a law enforcement matter and so erected the Gorelick Wall between the Justice Department (including the FBI) and other national security agencies and refused Sudan's offer to turn over bin Laden.

Democrats in the media have, for partisan purposes, sought to weaken our will to continue our effort in Iraq by the most one-sided coverage of any event that I can recall.

Democrats hurt our efforts throughout the Islamic world by continually harping on the isolated and insignificant abuses at Abu Ghraib long after the Army had taken steps to remedy them. And they did so for partisan purposes.

Howard Dean, presumably speaking for most Democrats, has emboldened our enemies by falsely claiming that we have lost in Iraq.

Many other Democrats, including the leader of the Democrats in the House, have lent comfort to our enemies by demanding a timetable for surrender . . . er, I mean withdrawal from Iraq.

Democrats turned the 9-11 Commission hearings into a partisan witch hunt against the Bush Administration.

Democrats advocated that the protections of the Geneva Convention be extended to terrorists in American custody, even though the Convention by its terms specifically excludes nonuniformed, stateless combatants.

Democrats have advocated that terrorists in American custody be treated as criminal defendants, rather than as prisoners of war.

Democrats and some Republicans would grant prisoners of the war on terror access to American courts to challenge the circumstances of their captivity and interrogation.

Democrats disclosed the existence of CIA detention facilities in foreign countries.

Democrats, in the words of Harry Reid, "killed the Patriot Act."

And now Democrats attack the President and speak of impeachment because of the NSA surveillance program the existence of which was leaked presumably by a Democrat.

Democrats leaked the information that we could intercept bin Laden's satellite telephone calls, which caused him to stop using that phone.

Democrats gutted the ability of the CIA to collect human intelligence and now seem intent on doing the same thing to the ability of the NSA to collect signals intelligence.

In short, for partisan purposes the Democrats have opposed and sought to undermine pretty much everything the administration as tried to do in the war on violent Islamic fundamentalism.

I have two questions for the Democrats:

1. Which side are you on, boys, which side are you on?

2. Why should the Democrats ever again be trusted with the national security of the United States?

134 posted on 12/20/2005 12:03:59 PM PST by p. henry
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To: PMCarey

I don't think he was necessarily dumb. Partisan? Absolutely.


135 posted on 12/20/2005 12:04:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: slowhand520
Photo and caption from an AP article published last December:


As final touches were being put on a bill overhauling the nation's intelligence agencies, members of Congress appear at a news conference on Capitol Hill Tuesday to discuss the legislation. Left to right are Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., (partially hiden) Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., center, and Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., far right. -AP Photo

Link to full article:
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/120804/nat_house001.shtml

You are so busted, Senator.

136 posted on 12/20/2005 12:06:27 PM PST by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: p. henry

Excellent post.

My belief is that all of these things are building momentum for Impeachment proceedings. They are trying to gather ammo and will eventually call for impeachment.

Good luck with that, dimwits.


137 posted on 12/20/2005 12:10:10 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: BigSkyFreeper

That's the whole thing in a nutshell, right there, isn't it?


138 posted on 12/20/2005 12:11:05 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: MikeA

Where did you hear that?

To my knowledge he's been against it consistently.

Yes, he's opposing ANWR and whining to the press that he dislikes the tactics of Stevens to impose ANWR on him. Even though Stevens merely copied mcCain's moves to get his torture bill added to the Defense Appropriations Bill.

Now Mccain is being forced to either vote down the bill funding the troops that contains his precious rights for terrorists, or vote for a bill supporting Artic Drilling that Soros will not be happy with him about. I'm enjoying McCain's predicament. I wouldn't mind a filibuster that defeated McCain's torture bill, but if it passes, we'll at least get ANWR. Either way Mccain is screwed and I love that after the way he blackmailed the President.

The question now is whether McCain wants his terrorist protections badly enough to bring the RINO's along with him to prevent a filibuster of the bill. It's quite a nice bit of side entertainment.


139 posted on 12/20/2005 12:12:01 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: conservativebabe

There's clearly a pattern, that's for sure.


140 posted on 12/20/2005 12:12:40 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: p. henry
Democrats in the Clinton administration believed our conflict with violent Islamic fundamentalism was a law enforcement matter and so erected the Gorelick Wall between the Justice Department (including the FBI) and other national security agencies...

I would say that the Democrats erected the wall to keep investigators from finding out the extent of Chinese campaign funding of the Clintons, and violent Islamic fundamentalism just got caught up in the wall as a side effect.

-PJ

141 posted on 12/20/2005 12:13:31 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: slowhand520
Do we know if he ever sent the letter to Cheney?

(It seems like a stupid question, but remember who we're dealing with.)

142 posted on 12/20/2005 12:13:59 PM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: slowhand520
SMACKDOWN!!
143 posted on 12/20/2005 12:14:12 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: MikeA
Is McCain opposing ANWR? Last I heard, he was for it.

The last thing I heard, McCain was torqued at Stevens for attaching the ANWR bill to the same defense appropriations bill McCain attached his hideous torture bill (Al-Qaeda Bill Of Rights) to.

McCain has no core beliefs besides believing in himself.

144 posted on 12/20/2005 12:15:10 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: toddlintown
Dear Sen Roberts,

Although I am not a constituant I wanted to thank you for your support of the President and your comments in reference to the disingenuous comments by Sen. Rockefellor. Too often, it seems the President has had to stand alone against Democrats and some liberal Republicans.
Conservatives know that it is not easy to stand up to these folks as well as the MSM. We know it takes courage and calls for people like yourself, who stand on principle, to rebute the assertions, half truths and lies. We will not forget your efforts.
Once again, Thank You,
145 posted on 12/20/2005 12:17:13 PM PST by stocksthatgoup ("It's inexcusable to tell us to 'connect the dots' and not give us the tools to do so." G W Bush)
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To: slowhand520
“A United States Senator has significant tools with which to wield power and influence over the executive branch. Feigning helplessness is not one of those tools."

Send that message to Reid and Pelosi, too!

146 posted on 12/20/2005 12:18:18 PM PST by airborne
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To: slowhand520

Michael Medved is talking about this now!

http://www2.krla870.com/listen/


147 posted on 12/20/2005 12:20:12 PM PST by GoforBroke
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To: houeto

Jay Rockefeller is a carpetbagging leach who decided to ride the West Virginia train to government priviledge. That is, he got on the train after his family raped the state of as much of its natural resources and exploited its citizens for all that they could.

Rockefeller is yet another politician who survives because dueling was made illegal.


148 posted on 12/20/2005 12:21:01 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Soul Seeker
Now Mccain is being forced to either vote down the bill funding the troops that contains his precious rights for terrorists, or vote for a bill supporting Artic Drilling that Soros will not be happy with him about. I'm enjoying McCain's predicament. I wouldn't mind a filibuster that defeated McCain's torture bill, but if it passes, we'll at least get ANWR. Either way Mccain is screwed and I love that after the way he blackmailed the President.

That's the way I see it too. McCain was the only one really raising a ruckus, and he's been blackballed by Stevens in an effort to make McCain choose his vote wisely. Either way, as you said, McCain is screwed. But, we're also forgetting that the Democrats don't want us drilling in ANWR either, and they'll be forced to vote the entire bill down.

149 posted on 12/20/2005 12:27:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: slowhand520
Remember Rockerfeller's part in the Dems of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence to use Intel info AGAI
NST the Administration?

Perhaps someone could post the archives pertaining to this important event that never got much media coverage except for the Republican who was fired because he found the memo on a common computer.
150 posted on 12/20/2005 12:27:22 PM PST by ketchikan (Rockerfeller subversive tactics)
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