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Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance
ABC 13 ^ | 12-20-05 | Jessica Willey

Posted on 12/20/2005 4:08:06 PM PST by truthandlife

A dispute that involved the wife of Houston's most famous pastor, Joel Osteen, and a Continental Airlines flight attendant ended up delaying a flight for hours Monday. And now, Victoria Osteen's actions on that flight are in the spotlight. Also on Send us a news tip | RSS feeds | ABC13 E-lert | Info mentioned on air Statements from Lakewood and Continental Following the incident on Continental flight 1602 Monday, both Lakewood Church and Continental Airlines released these statements. The Osteens run the largest church in the nation, so passengers on a Continental flight were shocked Monday when Mrs. Osteen was removed from that flight after a disturbance.

Taking time off from the high profile hustle and bustle of running a mega-church, Lakewood Church Pastor Joel Osteen and his family boarded Continental flight 1602 Monday morning at Houston's big airport. They were bound for the slopes in Colorado.

Their trip was delayed and so was the entire flight by almost two hours. Fellow passengers blame the popular Osteens, specifically Joel's wife, Victoria.

According to passenger accounts, the Osteens were sitting in first class. Soon after the plane's door was closed, the FBI says Victoria Osteen was removed following what Continental would call only a disturbance. The Osteens' spokesman confirms it involved a flight attendant, but that's all. However, one passenger tells Eyewitness News she was alerted to the front of the plane when she heard a commotion.

"She violently ran towards the cockpit, scaring everyone around her," said passenger Knicky Van Slyke. "Everyone was terrified about what was going on. And a bunch of flight attendants ran up and had to restrain her. She was banging on the door."

"Of the cockpit?" we asked.


Passengers say Victoria was removed first. Joel and the children followed. Meantime, everyone waited.

"They unloaded all the luggage to get their luggage and deplaned her, Joel, and the kids," said passenger Dawn Dixon.

Passenger Chad Clay said, "They kept telling us they were waiting on some passengers to find their luggage underneath in the plane, and it was going to be delayed for looking for that luggage."

According to the Transportation Security Administration, federal air marshals were never involved. Local authorities also know nothing of this event. Continental would not discuss details.

The Osteens' spokesman denies a physical altercation, denies Victoria ever banged on the cockpit door, and says she left on her own.

"The account of the event which has come to our attention is inaccurate and overblown. The misunderstanding was minor and was resolved when Victoria voluntarily removed herself from the situation," read the statement.

The FBI says it was not voluntary. Though agents are not investigating, they will review the incident as the Osteens enjoy their Colorado vacation.

The Osteens' spokesman says they took another flight to Colorado Monday.

Nobody has been charged. As for the FBI's involvement, we're told it's standard procedure for them to review all passenger removal incidents. According to Continental, this one is a closed case.

Pastor Joel Osteen preaches to an average of 40,000 people a week at Lakewood Church services. Lakewood opened in the former home of the Rockets, Compaq Center, back in July. It took $90 million and a year and a half of renovations. Osteen's ministry is taped and aired around the world.

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To: LaineyDee

I didn't see it, either. Then again, I don't watch TV very much.

I do know that the evangelicals in this neck of the woods are divided over whether or not this guy is a good thing or not.

361 posted on 12/20/2005 6:34:05 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: kcvl
"This entire sermon was on how as a child of God we should be receiving "preferential treatment" by everyone. He testified about how he had been pulled over a couple of times for speeding but when the officer saw his last name was Osteen, no ticket was issued. He said the same can happen for every Christian who wakes up declaring they have God’s favor. By following this method Osteen says he has been able to get the best parking spot in a crowded parking lot, a first class seat on a crowded airplane with no boarding pass, and priority seating at restaurants."


362 posted on 12/20/2005 6:34:28 PM PST by Al Simmons
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To: Al Simmons
We all sin, I just try to keep a short tab with the Lord...

Aren't we all little hypocritical? remember, there is no socialist utopia.

363 posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:15 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: kcvl
Rand Winburn
364 posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:24 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Liberty Valance

365 posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:48 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Why should you care?

I don't care. I was posting information about him and his wife. I just remember people giving to Jim Baker thinking he was a "good guy" too. People can spend their money on anything they please. I am free to comment on it.

366 posted on 12/20/2005 6:36:14 PM PST by kcvl
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To: csmusaret
It was a sports arena, but I doubt if 40,000 worshipers show up on Sunday.

They have more than one service on Sunday.

367 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:31 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

I hate to tell you this, Battle, but teaching "word by word" and "literally" would be a huge mistake... let's just say that any translation is a compromise which necessarily changes the meaning of the original. You can't be literal with translated works, you have to take them in context. Additionally, if you don't understand historical context, you won't understand that certain words or customs had vastly different meanings than we would ascribe to them today. Hermeneutics...

368 posted on 12/20/2005 6:38:41 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: miele man
First of all, using acronyms that may or may not mean what you think they mean is not swearing, but adding emphasis to a (rather) exasperated reply to something that strikes you as offensively stupid.

As far as what he "supposedly believes", trust me, I could recite these "Statements of Faith" verbatim if I just thought back for a moment...

This thread is about mercilessly lampooning a hypocrite...

not very Christian of me you say?

Well, being a historian I have always favored the ancient Roman outlook on ancient Rome, if something bad happened to a person, it was thought to have been his fault, and would often elicit laughter (a quite bizarre way of seeing things from our point of view, but it kind of explains why thousands could cheer and cackle at the sight of 10,000 criminals being executed in the Arena - just during the Noon-time intermission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

369 posted on 12/20/2005 6:38:56 PM PST by Al Simmons
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
"We all sin, I just try to keep a short tab with the Lord..."

You are quite right here, BHOTR, but not all of us go through our entire lives PRETENDING that we do not so many of the "I-wear-Jesus-on-my-lapel" types do....

370 posted on 12/20/2005 6:41:43 PM PST by Al Simmons
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To: truthandlife

Regardless of the why's her "nouveau riche" ass was tossed off the plane, they didn't need to hold up the flight, and ruin the flight for all the other passengers just to get their luggage!

371 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:37 PM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: austinTparty
EGAD!!! Are you saying that EVERY SINGLE WORD of the Bible is not literally true in the King James Version???????

Now get thee to a Bible-believing church!!!!!!!!

372 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:37 PM PST by Al Simmons
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To: MamaB

I do not consider that something to get all uptight about if that is what happened.

I haven't read or heard anything other than this thread, but it is possible the seat may have been still wet and asked to sit down because we will be taking off.

373 posted on 12/20/2005 6:45:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: jegoing
Osteem has a knack for being a good orator.

So does Benny Hinn.

374 posted on 12/20/2005 6:48:53 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Frank_2001


375 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:45 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: austinTparty

We know the bible was written in hebrew, greek and arameic. Also, we know almost all of the historical context.

376 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:49 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: truthandlife
People, people, everyone is missing the point of this story! Joel Olsteen is actually married to a female!!!
377 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:09 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: presently no screen name
but it is possible the seat may have been still wet and asked to sit down because we will be taking off.

Oh, yes. That would make anyone go charging for the cockpit door. I found some empty peanut bags in my magazine pouch, and by God, the Captain heard from me!!

Just did not make the news.

378 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:59 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: cyborg

"I like to watch Joel Osteen the same way I like to watch any other interesting inspirational program on television. I think he's very sincere in his desire to help people. I'm not making excuses but just giving my opinion."

I think he's sincere and (from what I've seen) he is not a wealth/success theologian. More "the power of positive thinking" type.

379 posted on 12/20/2005 6:57:09 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Yes. If I want bible christianity, I go to my own church. I don't think television should replace church.

380 posted on 12/20/2005 6:58:21 PM PST by cyborg (Polar Bear Club of One)
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