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Russians Observe Stalin's 126th Birthday
Guardian Unlimited ^ | Wednesday December 21, 2005

Posted on 12/21/2005 12:37:46 PM PST by lizol

Russians Observe Stalin's 126th Birthday

Wednesday December 21, 2005 7:31 PM

MOSCOW (AP) - Residents of a southern Russian town unveiled a statue Wednesday to Josef Stalin, as Communists and others marked the 126th anniversary of the late Soviet dictator's birth.

More three dozen residents of Digora, in the Caucasus region of North Ossetia, laid carnations at the gold bust topping a granite obelisk, while children in Soviet-style red kerchiefs saluted.

``Under Stalin, every year we waited for improvements and every year there were improvements. It's a fact,'' sculptor Mikhail Dzboyev said in televised comments.

In Moscow's Red Square, several dozen people carrying red flags bearing the face of Soviet founder Vladimir Lenin braved wintry weather to visit Stalin's grave.

In the Georgian town of Gori, where Stalin was born, people gathered to toast the Soviet leader.

A growing number of Russian towns in recent years have considered erecting monuments to Stalin, a controversial issue for many Russians who say the dictator was responsible for the deaths of millions of his own people.

Others revere him for the Soviet Union's rapid industrialization and his leadership against Nazi Germany during World War II.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cccp; communism; happybirthday; kprf; lenin; putin; russia; sovietunion; stalin; ussr
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1 posted on 12/21/2005 12:37:47 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
``Under Stalin, every year we waited for improvements and every year there were improvements. It's a fact,'' sculptor Mikhail Dzboyev said in televised comments.

Yup. First they had slit trenches, then outhouses and then indoor plumbing.

But they never could get the toilet paper thing worked out too well.

2 posted on 12/21/2005 12:39:15 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: lizol
``Under Stalin, every year we waited for improvements and every year there were improvements. It's a fact,'' sculptor Mikhail Dzboyev said in televised comments.

From http://www.yakov.com/news/

President Reagan had a great understanding of the differences between the reality of Russian life and life in these United States. The first joke he ever told me was the story about the Russian who wanted to purchase a car. The factory manager told him it would take a long time, that they would put his name on the list and to come back in 20 years. The man said, "Do I pick it up in the morning or in the afternoon?" The factory manager asked, "What's the difference 20 years from now?" The Russian said, "Because the plumber is scheduled to come that morning."

3 posted on 12/21/2005 12:42:09 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: lizol

126? My how time flies when you're having fun............


4 posted on 12/21/2005 12:42:09 PM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Yep. Every year there were improvements. That's the logical outcome when you kill a lot of people and distribute their wealth among the survivors. I prefer the Western Model of economic Improvement myself.


5 posted on 12/21/2005 12:42:22 PM PST by TCats
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To: lizol
Communists and others marked the 126th anniversary of the late Soviet dictator's birth.

What did they do? Beat a old peasant for an hour then send her to a gulag?

6 posted on 12/21/2005 12:42:46 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: lizol

Erecting statues of Stalin in Russia would be a lot like erecting statues of Hitler in Germany.

A bad idea.


7 posted on 12/21/2005 12:43:19 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: lizol

The only true way to honor Stalin is to starve out some villages then put the survivors in concentration camps above the Artic circle.


8 posted on 12/21/2005 12:43:28 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: lizol


9 posted on 12/21/2005 12:43:43 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici


Do you know what the Siberian toilet looks like?
10 posted on 12/21/2005 12:43:49 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

I'll be sure to take a dump this evening in Stalin's honor.


11 posted on 12/21/2005 12:43:51 PM PST by Skooz (Santa's laughter mocks the poor.)
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To: lizol

One of the most prolific mass murderers in history (probably second only to Mao). His "leadership" in WWII was one of the primary causes of that conflict (Hitler/Stalin non-aggression pact). His purges of the army in the thirties coupled with his lack of preparation for the German attack (he refused to believe it would happen) led to the deaths of millions of Russians and the devastation of the nation. He was a paranoid and a fool and one of the very worst "leaders" to ever plague mankind.


12 posted on 12/21/2005 12:46:33 PM PST by scory
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To: lizol

This is the equivalent of Germany unveiling a statue of Adolf Hilter on his birthday.


13 posted on 12/21/2005 12:46:37 PM PST by wallace144
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To: lizol
Do you know what the Siberian toilet looks like?

LOL! No, I don't. But I can't wait for you to tell me!

14 posted on 12/21/2005 12:58:16 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: lizol

Murderer of millions-- what a thing to celebrate.


15 posted on 12/21/2005 12:58:51 PM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: VeniVidiVici

It's 2 stick driven in snow - one to hang a coat on, an the other one - to defend yourself against wolves. :-)


16 posted on 12/21/2005 1:01:45 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

Russia has an intelligence gap. Extremely smart people and extremely stupid people.


17 posted on 12/21/2005 1:03:43 PM PST by bkepley
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To: lizol

Was there a celebritory firing line with dissenters in his honor?


18 posted on 12/21/2005 1:04:13 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: TCats

I think you've discovered the Liberals' scarcity technique here in the US...


19 posted on 12/21/2005 1:08:28 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: lizol

hehehehe


20 posted on 12/21/2005 1:12:42 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: lizol

The scumbag commie punk murdered as many people (or more) than Hitler. To erect a statue to honor this bastard is a disgrace and an unforgiveable insult to the memories of his millions of victims.


21 posted on 12/21/2005 1:18:23 PM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Under Stalin, there were improvements because things couldn't get any worse.


22 posted on 12/21/2005 1:25:20 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is death!)
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To: lizol
Aw jeez !

I was going to join the celebration,but couldn't.

Damn constipation !

23 posted on 12/21/2005 1:35:54 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: lizol

I guess heavy drinking makes people forget...


24 posted on 12/21/2005 1:37:09 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: lizol


Read this book and then try and tell me anything about that murderous bastard should be celebrated!
25 posted on 12/21/2005 1:39:49 PM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: lizol
RATS!!!!

It slipped my mind again!

26 posted on 12/21/2005 1:42:57 PM PST by Bender2 (Even dirty old robots need love!)
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To: MplsSteve

Why has Russia not banned this practice?


27 posted on 12/21/2005 1:46:17 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: lizol

Eduard Radzinsky's book said that Stalin lied about his age and he was born a year earlier. Thus, he would be 127.


28 posted on 12/21/2005 1:47:14 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: moose2004

And probably 1/2 of our college grads couldn't tell you what Stalin did if their lives depended on it. That's why they think socialists and Democrats have the right answers. They don't even know why the USSR failed.


29 posted on 12/21/2005 1:55:18 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: lizol

If it was me, I would find his grave and piss on it. Is that wrong?


30 posted on 12/21/2005 2:23:25 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: lizol

Here is the birthday boy

31 posted on 12/21/2005 2:28:30 PM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: lizol

May God return upon them what they celebrate in Staloween.


32 posted on 12/21/2005 6:08:24 PM PST by Spirited
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To: scory
"He was a paranoid"


Exactly! the above words belong to Stalin'daughter who lives in London.
33 posted on 12/21/2005 6:30:22 PM PST by SeeSalt
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To: lizol

There will always be idiots. Thankfully the median age of the Communist party in Russia is 56 and dieing. Now if we only had the same luck with the communists here in the US. Do you know that there is now a full sized statue of Lenin (may he and Stalin rot in Hell) in Seattle?


34 posted on 12/21/2005 7:38:34 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: lizol; VeniVidiVici; frogjerk; theDentist; Semper Paratus; Skooz; Clara Lou; bkepley; moose2004; ...
A growing number of Russian towns in recent years have considered erecting monuments to Stalin, a controversial issue for many Russians who say the dictator was responsible for the deaths of millions of his own people.

Let's see, I wonder if this is another one of your lies to discredit Russia. The Guardian, WorldNetDaily, yourself and other Poles helped promote the lie about the statue of Stalin in Volgograd. I contacted the director of monuments for the city, and he didn't know anything about it, and furthermore stated neither he or the city would not approve it. I contacted WorldNetDaily, and they continued with the lie. That said, if the new story is true there are now 3 statues of Stalin in all of Russia, with one in Siberia, and a third in Moscow minus the nose.
35 posted on 12/28/2005 9:29:00 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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In Moscow's Red Square, several dozen people carrying red flags bearing the face of Soviet founder Vladimir Lenin braved wintry weather to visit Stalin's grave.

Several dozen people..

36 posted on 12/28/2005 9:37:37 AM PST by bkepley
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Several dozen people..

That was likely the two dozen communists who march in Red Square every day with their red flags. The last couple of times we were there I pointed out to my wife every one of them was almost 60 or over.
37 posted on 12/28/2005 9:42:31 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

If this is anyone's lie, it's AP's, right? [WND is no source of accurate information, IMO.]


38 posted on 12/28/2005 9:44:39 AM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: GarySpFc
Please submit your complaint to the editor in chief of the Guardian instead of insulting other people (like me) by saying, that they lie.

A true Christian wouldn't do it. It's against the 8th commandement.
39 posted on 12/28/2005 9:46:46 AM PST by lizol
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To: wallace144

"This is the equivalent of Germany unveiling a statue of Adolf Hilter on his birthday."

No it's not


40 posted on 12/28/2005 9:47:24 AM PST by traumer
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To: VeniVidiVici

I'm celebrating Stalin's anniversary- the 52nd Anniversary of his death.


41 posted on 12/28/2005 9:56:10 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: lizol
Please submit your complaint to the editor in chief of the Guardian instead of insulting other people (like me) by saying, that they lie.
A true Christian wouldn't do it. It's against the 8th commandement.


Time after time you have helped spread the mantra that Russia wants to return to Stalinism, and your posting this article shows you for the hypocrite you are in reality.
42 posted on 12/28/2005 10:24:10 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Clara Lou
Gary regularly smears anyone who does not goose-step for KGB Putin like he does. Don't expect him to apologize for his unwarranted lies either, he is an unrepentant slanderer.
43 posted on 12/28/2005 11:28:45 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GarySpFc
Get lost Gary.

I know I should have respect for your age, but really - when a person like you is writing about someone else's hypocrisy it really pi***s me off.
44 posted on 12/28/2005 1:34:06 PM PST by lizol
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Joe, you just got caught in a lie on another thread regarding Yulia Tymoshenko and gas siphoning by the Ukraine.


45 posted on 12/28/2005 1:41:46 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: lizol

I think you are the one who needs to get lost.


46 posted on 12/28/2005 1:42:27 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: lizol

Did the New York Times shut down production for this momentous event?



47 posted on 12/28/2005 1:43:57 PM PST by Fintan (See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
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To: Clara Lou
If this is anyone's lie, it's AP's, right? [WND is no source of accurate information, IMO.]

It was the Guardian's. WND, but several of the posters on Free Republic ran it into the ground that Stalinism was being revived in Russia, which is total nonsense.
48 posted on 12/28/2005 1:44:49 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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you just got caught in a lie

No, I did not. You are the one who was exposed as a liar since you cannot show one single piece of solid evidence to back up your unfounded allegations about Tymoshenko. Your Russian masters have shown you for the malicious slanderous gossip you are by dropping all charges against Tymoshenko.

Go lick your Russian masters' boots now, traitor.

49 posted on 12/28/2005 4:16:06 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GarySpFc; lizol; sergey1973; RusIvan; MarMema; FormerLib; K. Smirnov
Of course what's funny is this same crowd loves Georgia that still honors Stalin with numerous statues and a museum. Which by the way, having been there when passing through Gori on the way to the ancient mountain side ruins (I can't remember the name of the city but its something like 4,000 years old and was litterly carved into a mountain) is one of the biggest fluff jobs to a murderous thug anyone can ever imagine. But yet the Saakashvili government has no problem with all that or the ceremonies performed for the patron saint of Gori by his demented worshipers.
50 posted on 12/28/2005 8:53:49 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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