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Weather Forecaster: "It's 20% Colder This Past Month" -- WHAAAT?
Free Republic ^ | 12/23/05 | self

Posted on 12/23/2005 2:53:31 AM PST by beyond the sea

Edited on 12/23/2005 7:31:09 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: beyond the sea

>>>see post # 39 for the actual answer.<<<

LOL!


61 posted on 12/23/2005 5:58:12 AM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: burzum

I can see how one could easily be confused between heat energy and the warming sensation we commonly call "heat", but I wasn't really trying to write for a thermodynamics blog.

As far as motion, yes I did mean particle motion relative to each other. The particles on Triton are moving very slow relative to each other, but Triton itself is actually moving pretty quick relative to me.


62 posted on 12/23/2005 5:59:15 AM PST by bobjam
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64 posted on 12/23/2005 6:23:13 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: mellowdude
post # 39 is the intelligent answer/

I knew I needed the wisdom of another FReeper.

;-)

65 posted on 12/23/2005 6:24:33 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: beyond the sea
This morning the newsette on my local ABC television affiliate reported with great gusto to my fellow Pittsburgh area viewers that this December is 20% colder than was last December. What in the world does that mean?

It means that yesterday I got a $361 gas bill and a $103 electric bill for November 14-December 14. Merry Christmas, Washington Gas and Pepco.

66 posted on 12/23/2005 7:53:34 AM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: Capriole
It means that yesterday I got a $361 gas bill and a $103 electric bill for November 14-December 14. Merry Christmas, Washington Gas and Pepco.

Yoi!

I set my thermostat at 50 degrees to cut down on the gas bill.

You can wear a lot of warm clothes, sleep with some great warm pets and covers, but, you know your house may just be a little too chilly ............... when your eyeballs are cold.

No kidding.

Try it just for a while.

;-)

67 posted on 12/23/2005 8:04:27 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: beyond the sea

I wear a lot of warm clothes and I'm willing to set the thermostat very low (it's at 60 now and falls much lower than that in some parts of the house). But the kids can't freeze to death. They fight over who is going to sleep with the dog every night because he keeps them warm.

Preserve me from houses with cathedral ceilings and lots of glass! I am selling this ludicrous barn in May, God willing, and moving to someplace normal where I can have a woodstove or two.


68 posted on 12/23/2005 8:08:55 AM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: Capriole
But the kids can't freeze to death. They fight over who is going to sleep with the dog every night because he keeps them warm.

Get a couple of more dogs.

;-)

By the way ........... feeling cold is never bad at all .............. until you cannot feel ANYTHING.

;-)

69 posted on 12/23/2005 8:20:50 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: BluH2o
Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get. That is all that is up with that. Or any of it.
70 posted on 12/23/2005 8:24:52 AM PST by JasonC
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To: beyond the sea

They're calculating the percentage decrease in the average of daily highs from last year to this year.

Sometimes they don't state the result correctly.


71 posted on 12/23/2005 8:28:24 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
They're calculating the percentage decrease in the average of daily highs from last year to this year. ........... Sometimes they don't state the result correctly.

Baloney!....... see post # 39 for some truth.

Merry Christmas ..............

72 posted on 12/23/2005 8:59:59 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: beyond the sea
What are they talking about?

Global warming fanatics always use the Celsius temperatures (instead if Fahrenheit or Kelvin) when examining temperature change because a small variation generates a larger percentage change which looks worse.

If last years average was 20C and this year is 21C then you get an increase of 5%.

Using Fahrenheit the same measure would be 68F last year to 69.8F this year giving 2.8%.

Using Kelvin the same measure would be 293K last year to 294K this year giving .3%.

All methods are valid but only Kelvin gives an honest value where the percentage per degree change does not vary based on where you are on the curve.

73 posted on 12/23/2005 9:07:06 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: beyond the sea

LOL! I'll take my baloney with mustard, thank you. And maybe some sweet pickles. But dill pickles are good occasionally.

I'm too familiar with classical thermodynamics and statistical mechanics and the calculations for translating microscopic descriptions to macroscopic measured values. I'm also sure that media weather forecasters don't use this method.


74 posted on 12/23/2005 9:13:22 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Rutles4Ever

He would have to lose weight to morph into Yeltsin.


75 posted on 12/23/2005 9:19:40 AM PST by reg45
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
ROFL ................ I'm going for a beer.

;-)

76 posted on 12/23/2005 9:23:33 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: beyond the sea

Good idea! As soon as I get out of work, I am too. ;)


77 posted on 12/23/2005 9:27:40 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: beyond the sea
That's not unlike saying men who never marry in their lives die earlier.

Another thing that skews the figure is that men who die before they get married -- never get married.

Statistically, a guy who dies when he is 19 is considered a life-long bachelor.

78 posted on 12/23/2005 11:24:10 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: beyond the sea
At what temperature do you begin to tabulate? I’ve heard these kinds of “percentage change” claims by weather reporters from time to time over the years. What are they talking about?

I am 100% sure I do not know. And 75% sure I do not care. MERRY (20% colder) CHRISTMAS to you and yours!

79 posted on 12/23/2005 11:28:14 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
LOL.......

post # 39 gives the real, correct answer, in case you wish to know.

;-)

80 posted on 12/23/2005 11:30:18 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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