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Stars turn backs on America's troops in Iraq
Guardian ^ | December 24, 2005 | Jamie Wilson

Posted on 12/23/2005 6:39:07 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

During world war two American troops away from home for Christmas were entertained by Marlene Dietrich, Bing Crosby and the Marx Brothers. Even in Vietnam Bob Hope was guaranteed to put in an appearance. But soldiers in Iraq are more likely to get a show from a Christian hip-hop group, a country singer you have probably never heard of and two cheerleaders for the Dallas Cowboys.

Just as the seemingly intractable nature of the war has led to a growing recruitment crisis, so the United Services Organisation, which has been putting on shows for the troops since the second world war, is struggling to get celebrities to sign up for even a short tour of duty.

It is a far cry from the days following the September 11 2001 attacks, when some of the biggest names in show business, from Jennifer Lopez to Brad Pitt, rallied to the cause. "After 9/11 we couldn't have had enough airplanes for the people who were volunteering to go," Wayne Newton, the Las Vegas crooner who succeeded Bob Hope as head of USO's talent recruiting effort, told USA Today. "Now with 9/11 being as far removed as it is, the war being up one day and down the next, it becomes increasingly difficult to get people to go."

Newton said many celebrities have been wary of going because they think it might be seen that they are endorsing the war. "And I say it's not. I tell them these men and women are over there because our country sent them, and we have the absolute necessity to try to bring them as much happiness as we can."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; bush; celebrities; hollyweird; hollywood; iraq; military; uso; war
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1 posted on 12/23/2005 6:39:09 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Guardian is such a rag


2 posted on 12/23/2005 6:39:33 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: West Coast Conservative
Newton said many celebrities have been wary of going because they think it might be seen that they are endorsing the war.

In other words, they can't go entertain the troops because they don't like the President. Nice.

3 posted on 12/23/2005 6:41:11 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: West Coast Conservative
a Christian hip-hop group, a country singer you have probably never heard of and two cheerleaders for the Dallas Cowboys.

And these entertainers are Not Celebrity enough?

Not Patriotic enough?

Not talented enough?

4 posted on 12/23/2005 6:42:20 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: West Coast Conservative
Read the book "RED Star over Hollywood" and you'll understand it all starting way back before WWI and all the way through.
5 posted on 12/23/2005 6:42:59 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Shiggity-shwa.
6 posted on 12/23/2005 6:44:47 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The Guardian wouldn't know the truth if it walked up and bit them in the @ss. Stalin apologists - lowest of the low.


7 posted on 12/23/2005 6:45:54 PM PST by keithtoo (Leftists/Democrats - Traitors, Haters and Vacillators)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Just as the seemingly intractable nature of the war has led to a growing recruitment crisis...."

Lie. All services met their recruiting goals this year, and the numbers are getting better, not worse.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, reenlistments are far ahead of the goals, some units near 140%.

The USO shows I see seem to be well attended and the soldiers seem to be having a good time.

The goal of the rabbidly defeatist Guardian is to undermine the war effort in any way possible. Wayne Newton who has done great things for the troops and the USO should have known that the Guardian wouldnt be after a story if they didnt think they could make the USA look bad with it.


8 posted on 12/23/2005 6:46:39 PM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: West Coast Conservative
When will they realize that is because of the freedom that is fought for by our young men and women they are allowed to indulge themselves in their craft.....the very regime's that the Hollywood sect embraces would not allow them to produce the smut they call movies/entertainment
Thanks for the rant...
9 posted on 12/23/2005 6:47:11 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: West Coast Conservative
But the comedian said he mostly tries to keep politics out of the show after he did a few jokes about Bush's brainpower at a base in 2003 and got a chilly reception.

Duh!

10 posted on 12/23/2005 6:47:35 PM PST by aculeus
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To: West Coast Conservative

It just might be that our troops don't want to be entertained by those who are rooting for the other side to win.

I miss Bob Hope.


11 posted on 12/23/2005 6:48:19 PM PST by generally
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To: West Coast Conservative

The WWE went and that was good.


12 posted on 12/23/2005 6:49:14 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Screw Hollywood. At least Charlie Daniels Band supports the troops, as for the rest of them... RENT movies. =o)


13 posted on 12/23/2005 6:49:24 PM PST by chaos_5
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To: armydawg1

I can swaer that just recently (in the last year) the USO got the likes of Jessica Simpson, Garth Brooks, etc. to do shows for the troops. I think the Guardian has a case of selective amnesia.


14 posted on 12/23/2005 6:49:46 PM PST by rasblue (Everyone has their price)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Newton said many celebrities have been wary of going because they think it might be seen that they are endorsing the war.

 

My suspicion is they're deathly afraid biting the leftist hand that feeds them $20M paychecks for making those really swell movies & "music" they're grinding out these days.

15 posted on 12/23/2005 6:50:42 PM PST by Fintan (See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Creeps.


16 posted on 12/23/2005 6:52:30 PM PST by Rastus
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To: rasblue
I think the Guardian has a case of selective amnesia.

Didn't Toby Keith go also?

17 posted on 12/23/2005 6:53:04 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: bnelson44

Ditto.

As are "celebrities/entertainers" who consider taking cheer to our servicepersonnel to be threatening to their concepts of popularity.

It would, in fact, be beneficial to their popularity if they'd just open their understandings to those beyond Hollywood, L.A., and S.F., CA.


18 posted on 12/23/2005 6:53:50 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: West Coast Conservative

Unfortunately, i think the Guardian is on the money
with this one. Most of the present day "stars" are
worthless cowards, who have not one shred pf loyalty
to *anything* other than what's between their legs...
much less their own country, which provided them with
everything they have.


19 posted on 12/23/2005 6:54:39 PM PST by Baby Driver
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Stars Immature over paid over adorned malcontent largely uneducated pseudo adults playing make believe for a living turn backs on America's troops in Iraq"
20 posted on 12/23/2005 6:54:49 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Fintan

Yeah, which is WHY the film industry is in such dives nowadays, is producing such crud.

They're pandering to and concerned with all the wrong audiences.


21 posted on 12/23/2005 6:54:57 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: West Coast Conservative

Lou Rawls shqwed up, back in the time...


22 posted on 12/23/2005 6:57:56 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: rasblue

I think you are right. Bruce Willis went too, didn't he?


23 posted on 12/23/2005 6:58:46 PM PST by wallace144
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bruce Willis and Deuce Four. 'Nough said.


24 posted on 12/23/2005 6:59:56 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: West Coast Conservative

http://www.uso.org/pubs/8_16_2143.cfm

Here's the USO 2005 schedule. Past schedules are on the same site.


25 posted on 12/23/2005 7:00:08 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: generally
I miss Bob Hope.

Bob Hope

Bob Hope donated his time and talents to help USO bring "a touch of home" to those serving their country overseas.

Fact Sheet


26 posted on 12/23/2005 7:00:29 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: wallace144

Got yer back- you got it!


27 posted on 12/23/2005 7:01:44 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Baby Driver

Yeah, well, ditto to that, too.


28 posted on 12/23/2005 7:02:00 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: West Coast Conservative
Maybe it's just because (a.) they're lazy and (b.) afraid they'll get their cowardly butts shot off. As someone said, things are certainly different today.

But as far as whether opposition to the war or to President Bush has anything to do with it, I just finished a book I'd highly recommend called "Rednecks vs. Bluenecks." It's about the left vs. right, liberal vs. conservative battle in country music, sort of starting out and centering around the Dixie Chicks mess, then going into a historical perspective of politics in country music and then talking to a whole bunch of liberals and a whole bunch of conservatives in the business. They also talked to one guy in particular ... Buddy Miller, a great singer/player/songwriter ... who swore that he was absolutely dead-center in the middle, and had a separate chapter on Merle Haggard and Johnny Cash, who always sent out different signals and can't be pigeonholed politically.

Anyway, one of the people they talked to on the liberal side was Raul Malo of the Mavericks. The political stuff he spewed out would be worth a "puke alert" on this site, he was so over the top that he was rivaling Steve Earle, whose Marxist diatribes for the author were in a class of their own.

Still, Mr. Malo went to Iraq to entertain the troops last Christmas, said he was happy and honored to do so even though he is vehemently opposed to the war, and while he was there he didn't mention politics. So while his personal beliefs are nauseating, I give him credit for going over there.

29 posted on 12/23/2005 7:02:08 PM PST by GB
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To: P-Marlowe

You missed one. Bob Hope was made an honorary veteran of the armed forces in 1997. He said “I've been given many awards in my lifetime - but to be numbered among the men and women I admire most - is the greatest honor I have ever received."


30 posted on 12/23/2005 7:04:51 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: P-Marlowe
Actually, I misread. Oops.
31 posted on 12/23/2005 7:05:36 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I thought they support the troops?
32 posted on 12/23/2005 7:09:19 PM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

It's great that all the folks on the line-up are all going, but it's not A-list. I would like to some big music acts donate a sizable production for the troops.


33 posted on 12/23/2005 7:09:50 PM PST by Afronaut (America is for Americans, but not anymore)
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To: GB
Still, Mr. Malo went to Iraq to entertain the troops last Christmas, said he was happy and honored to do so even though he is vehemently opposed to the war, and while he was there he didn't mention politics. So while his personal beliefs are nauseating, I give him credit for going over there.

I noticed Henry Rollins name on that list. I don't think he is for the war either. I don't really care for some of the stuff he says or his music. But it is nice of him to go over there.

34 posted on 12/23/2005 7:11:29 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I met Rob Schnieder in Iraq.

I was able to see Robin Williams as well.

I could have gone to Toby Keith but I didn't get there.

Quite a few celebs have been there, but there is NO excuse for some of them, especially those that haven't gone yet.


35 posted on 12/23/2005 7:12:10 PM PST by MikefromOhio (It's amazing that a guy says he wants to nuke parts of America ON FR, but he doesn't get zotted)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The days are coming when the so called celebrities are going to get their comeuppance.

I see a lot of things on the Internet, and support for the Troops is high, despite that not being reflected in the media.

We are no longer living in the days of the nickelodeons where people will pay to see absolutely anything.

Hollywood has not recognized that fact yet, but they shall...and soon

36 posted on 12/23/2005 7:18:38 PM PST by Radix (Senator Kennedy actually criticized the President for acting as if he is above the Law!)
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To: Afronaut
I understand & agree with you. I just wanted people to know who is going to Iraq & supporting our troops. I'm sure that these guys weren't wondering where Brad Pitt is when this picture was taken.

Leeann Tweeden

37 posted on 12/23/2005 7:19:10 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
Toby Keith recorded a song for some country music award show at an "undisclosed location" in Iraq a couple of weeks back. Looked to be a nice concert and I saw several Marines as well as members of the 18th Military Police Brigade around the stage.

Lonestar, Gary Sinise and the Lt. Dan Band, and Bruce Willis and his band (I forget the name) have also been to Iraq and/or Afghanistan and/or other Middle Eastern bases recently.
38 posted on 12/23/2005 7:19:43 PM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
But many of the USO's regular performers are fierce critics of the war, among them the comic and star of Good Morning Vietnam, Robin Williams, who told USA Today he would like to return to the Middle East in the spring for what would be his fourth tour since 2002. "I'm there for the [troops], not for W," he said in a reference to the president. "Go, man. You won't forget it. You'll meet amazing people," is his message to stars that ask him about the tours. But the comedian said he mostly tries to keep politics out of the show after he did a few jokes about Bush's brainpower at a base in 2003 and got a chilly reception...Other critics of the war who regularly perform include the leftwing comedian Al Franken (who is headlining the current tour along with Christian hip-hop group Souljahz) and the punk legend and actor Henry Rollins, one of the Bush administrations most vocal critics.

In my military carer I was never in harm's way. If I had been and these clowns (or this ilk) came to put on a show, I would have skipped it. I would rather have climbed into my crib and read the Bluejacket Manual.

39 posted on 12/23/2005 7:26:46 PM PST by stevem
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To: West Coast Conservative
Shopper Pays for Marine's Engagement Ring
40 posted on 12/23/2005 7:27:30 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Lefties are always telling me they support the troops, even if they don't support the war in Iraq.

Yeah.


41 posted on 12/23/2005 7:28:40 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: armydawg1

The WWE was over in Afghanistan recently.


42 posted on 12/23/2005 7:33:05 PM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The tradition of beautiful women thrilling the troops has continued - although while Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell showed up in Korea and Vietnam could boast Raquel Welch, in Iraq they have had to make do with sometime pop singer and reality TV star Jessica Simpson.

Pffft. I'd "make do" with Jessica every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

43 posted on 12/23/2005 7:35:14 PM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Dave Attell! Cool!


44 posted on 12/23/2005 7:36:45 PM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

I would take two Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders any day.


45 posted on 12/23/2005 7:38:59 PM PST by moog
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To: Baby Driver

You sure there's stuff "between the legs?"


46 posted on 12/23/2005 7:40:33 PM PST by moog
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To: GB

It seems like a lot of country musicians in particular support our troops even if they might personally disagree with the war. It was amazing; shortly after my brother went on active duty his taste in music shifted radically from classic rock to country - as he says, most country stars sure seem to appreciate the military, and they are generally pretty popular among our young servicemen and women.

People like Robin Williams and Henry Rollins have my respect; they disagree with the war but do not hesitate to go overseas to entertain and bring some joy and lighthearted fun to our troops. The article said Robin Williams is planning his fourth USO trip since 2002 for next year. That's a great deal better than those celebrities who both denigrate our administration's decision to go to war, AND who ignore or outright degrade the troops.


47 posted on 12/23/2005 7:49:45 PM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: West Coast Conservative

For those who wish to bitch about the Guardian (and it is a rag) this was the front page story in USA Today, Friday the 23.


48 posted on 12/23/2005 7:55:15 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (I will not support evil just because "It's the Law.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

That would explain why Hollywood isn't making as much money lately.


49 posted on 12/23/2005 7:59:37 PM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: West Coast Conservative

These are the same idiots who will say they don't support the war but they do support the troops. An impossible combination they claim is possible.


50 posted on 12/23/2005 8:01:55 PM PST by Casloy
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