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Bush was denied wiretaps, bypassed them (FISA Court denied them in unprecedented numbers)
UPI ^ | Dec. 27, 2005 | UPI

Posted on 12/27/2005 10:47:23 AM PST by Pragmatic_View

WASHINGTON, Dec. 26 (UPI) -- U.S. President George Bush decided to skip seeking warrants for international wiretaps because the court was challenging him at an unprecedented rate.

A review of Justice Department reports to Congress by Hearst newspapers shows the 26-year-old Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court modified more wiretap requests from the Bush administration than the four previous presidential administrations combined.

The 11-judge court that authorizes FISA wiretaps modified only two search warrant orders out of the 13,102 applications approved over the first 22 years of the court's operation.

But since 2001, the judges have modified 179 of the 5,645 requests for surveillance by the Bush administration, the report said. A total of 173 of those court-ordered "substantive modifications" took place in 2003 and 2004. And, the judges also rejected or deferred at least six requests for warrants during those two years -- the first outright rejection of a wiretap request in the court's history.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: ndt

I found the FR posting of the AAG's letter with all the links to the cases mentioned.

Assistant Attorney General's Letters to Senate Intelligence Committee Regarding NSA Spying Program

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545787/posts


261 posted on 12/27/2005 2:31:15 PM PST by Pragmatic_View
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To: ez

You got me!


262 posted on 12/27/2005 2:31:22 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: ndt

Please give case law to support your side of the argument, that is all.


263 posted on 12/27/2005 2:32:26 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Pragmatic_View
"You seem to be the legal eagle, so how come you don't know that. I"

You pointed to an entire war and said "see that proves I'm right". I'm just asking for what specifically you are referring to. A lot of stuff happened during that war.
264 posted on 12/27/2005 2:33:00 PM PST by ndt
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To: Pragmatic_View
This thread is proving to be a treasure trove of info, thanks to people like you who go dig up the real important stuff. :)

Don't you LOVE Free Republic? And do you understand why Mary Mapes and Dan Rather hate us?

265 posted on 12/27/2005 2:33:28 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: AmishDude

What is the problem with Kazen?


266 posted on 12/27/2005 2:33:44 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Pragmatic_View
The President did not need the FISA Court after Congress approved the Iraq War Resolution in October 2002. The resolution gave him all the authority he needed to pursue the war on terrorism wherever it took him.

IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION 107th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. J. RES. 114

October 10, 2002

JOINT RESOLUTION

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations';

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations; Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people; Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq; Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);

Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677';

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688';

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable'; Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'.

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS. The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS. (a) REPORTS- The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 3 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338).

(b) SINGLE CONSOLIDATED REPORT- To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of the War Powers Resolution (Public Law 93-148), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION- To the extent that the information required by section 3 of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of such resolution.

267 posted on 12/27/2005 2:35:18 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ndt
Sorry, that is not a formal declaration of war.

That's lame. I was 100% certain this would be your response. You are intentionally evasive and misleading.

Very Clintonesque. Are you sure you belong here? I didn't see any conservative credentials in a brief review of your history of posts. Lot's of trashing other FReepers, though...except your evo buddies.

Your other screen name is...?

268 posted on 12/27/2005 2:36:30 PM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: ndt
Some more sensible points, which, I am sure will fall on deaf ears in your case:

Thwarting terrorists is top priority

"In response to claims of surveillance abuses during the Nixon administration, the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was passed. Under FISA, an 11-member court oversees government applications for secret surveillance or searches of those suspected of terrorism or espionage. Democratic leaders are now asking pointedly why the administration did not go to the FISA court for a warrant.

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales has a response. He cites the Authorization to Use Military Force law, which Congress passed a week after 9/11 and which allows the government to forgo FISA. It is alleged that Congress gave the president authority to use "signal intelligence" -- wiretaps, for example -- to eavesdrop on international calls between U.S. citizens and foreigners when either of the parties is a suspected al-Qaida member or supporter.

Mr. Bush contends that the surveillance actions taken by the government are consistent with his constitutional powers and have prevented attacks in the last four years. Evidence seems to support this contention.

According to the FBI and statistics provided by the Justice Department, there have been more than 100 instances of planned terrorist activities within the United States that have been thwarted by domestic surveillance. These include an attempt to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, the Mall of America and the Holland Tunnel.

It would appear that the fervor generated by 9/11 is starting to wane. More significantly, it would appear that partisan politics have been insinuated into even sensitive security provisions. There is, however, one matter that should not be overlooked: Osama bin Laden and his band of al-Qaida fanatics have vowed to kill Americans and destroy our institutions. That reality must not be forgotten.

Ultimately, the Supreme Court may be obliged to adjudicate the issue of presidential authority, but the president did what was necessary to secure national security. One may to decide to examine pettifogging legal matters, bu for most Americans, keeping the enemy at bay is what should be the focus of presidential attention. "

269 posted on 12/27/2005 2:36:34 PM PST by Pragmatic_View
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To: Pragmatic_View

How many judges on that court are Clinton/Carter appointees?


270 posted on 12/27/2005 2:36:53 PM PST by hershey
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To: Howlin

I don't remember, but if I didn't include you among the people who post excellent info, I should have. :)


271 posted on 12/27/2005 2:37:43 PM PST by Pragmatic_View
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To: Pragmatic_View
U.S. President George Bush decided to skip seeking warrants for international wiretaps because the court was challenging him at an unprecedented rate.

The first sentence of the article is never backed up. Nevermind that it reads more like an editorial comment rather than a news fact. Good job UPI.

272 posted on 12/27/2005 2:38:18 PM PST by TankerKC (Who will hold the NYT accountable for knowingly releasing classified info?)
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To: Howlin

In particular, nothing is wrong with Kazen. But he's a Carter-appointed judge and the rejection rate shoots up just when he's nominated. I think the coincidence is not accidental, but I'm basing this on very little information, just statistics.


273 posted on 12/27/2005 2:38:24 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: hershey

See post 189 with links to other posts, that have the detailed info on the judges:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547700/posts?page=189#189


274 posted on 12/27/2005 2:39:26 PM PST by Pragmatic_View
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To: DJ Taylor
ndt says that this resolution doesn't count because it's not a formal declaration of war...thus, The President doesn't have the authority.

Care to comment? :-)

275 posted on 12/27/2005 2:40:19 PM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: ndt

I'm waiting for the case law to support your side of the debate. If you can't find any don't feel bad because the NY Slimes couldn't either.


276 posted on 12/27/2005 2:41:20 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: NewLand

I guess the RATS found out he wasn't such a lame duck president after all.


277 posted on 12/27/2005 2:43:25 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: ndt
"There was no law against spying on people in the US until the law passed by Congress as a knee jerk reaction to the Nixon scandal." Incorrect, it is covered by the fourth amendment.

Sorry, but the Fourth is not a law against spying on Americans. Just read it. It's a law against "unreasonable" searches and seizures. Most would consider the monitoring of phone calls to and from suspected AlQueda operatives to be "reasonable."

278 posted on 12/27/2005 2:43:34 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Howlin
"I want to know WHY this guy wasn't offended enough to resign about what was going on until the New York Times published their article."

Methinks he didn't 'resign'. Methinks he was forced out. Methinks further that he may be a leaker and will be in deep do do at a later time. Just rank speculation (considering his lack of character in the past)...

279 posted on 12/27/2005 2:44:24 PM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Pragmatic_View

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512240002

Top 12 media myths and falsehoods on the Bush administration's spying scandal

Summary: Media Matters presents the top 12 myths and falsehoods promoted by the media on President Bush's spying scandal stemming from the recent revelation in The New York Times that he authorized the National Security Agency (NSA) to eavesdrop on domestic communications without the required approval of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court.


280 posted on 12/27/2005 2:46:55 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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