Skip to comments.Virginia denies benefits to illegals
Posted on 12/31/2005 9:00:59 AM PST by High Cotton
RICHMOND -- A new Virginia law that bars illegal aliens from receiving state-funded benefits goes into effect tomorrow. The law restricts anybody without a Social Security number from receiving Medicaid, temporary assistance for needy families, and help from several other state and local programs. Supporters say the measure could save the state millions. "A lot of us were saying, instead of raising taxes, why don't we start prioritizing where we're spending our existing money," said Delegate David B. Albo, Fairfax Republican, who sponsored the bill. "One of the things we found was the state was not checking for legal presence for Medicaid."
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Hard to believe that this is happening with the Dems in control. I guess they're just pandering.
Sounds like reasonable law, one that shouldn't have needed to be passed in the first place if folks would just enforce the law against illegals currently on the books!
But it's a step in the right direction, I guess.
Wonder how long it will last before some activist liberal judge strikes it down?
Great job, Virginia! (Watch your backs... here comes the ACLU). If only California would do this.
I hope they check all of them.
Posted by Daralundy
On News/Activism 12/30/2005 11:32:40 PM PST · 35 replies · 614+ views
we tried this in California. Our own governor, Davis at the time threw it away. Never let it go to court because he knew it would be deemed unconstitutional.
Now the press lies about it and claims it was thrown down and called unconstitutional.
Prop187. SOS, save our state. We are not doing so well here because of the protection laws for illegal aliens. Good luck to you. Hope all other 49 states can find the backbone to tell these guys you cannot be a parasite here anymore.
Are Dems in control? I'm surprised they'd support a Republican's bill.
Should be interesting.
Or incredibly disheartening. A Goldberg v Kelly-style victory for illegals would cement handouts for anyone within our borders for the foreseeable future... and this one will be litigated.
Isn't it amazing how a Governor (who is sworn to enforce the law) can just pick and choose which laws he chooses to enforce? We're not talking some law from the 1800s that doesn't make sense anymore, but a law from a recent popular proposition. This alone should be grounds for impeachment.
Why are politicians so spooked? Because the media has convinced them they will be voted out by a wave of Hispanic voters. But most of those voters are illegals. And thanks to a not-so-stealth scheme to allow illegals to vote (including the Motor Votor Law, and not checking SS#s on forged documents, and plain old PC), they can.
Makes sense toe.
They are in control of the governorship.
Yes, Virginia, there are fake Social Security cards.
Posted last night - nothing wrong with reposting it after all this time though.
Mr. Grey-out Davis was representing the interests of ILLEGAL ALIEN population and not his real voters.
He "Davis" was in close association with the President of Mexico. Many visits down there 'probably' treated quite lavishly and had his pockets lined as well, STOOD up for a foreign government over his own. That should be considered treasonous activity. By the way, after that numerous congressmen and senators followed suit. How much possibly had they received to turn their backs on the legal citizens of this country...
I thought the President set foreign policy. It is not up to individual governors and congress people to visit foreign leaders and set foreign policy...
This is the first time I have seen it.
I wonder if one reason that laws concerning illegals are not enforced is due to this. If all the illegals who owned houses were deported, all those loans would be in default. Imagine what that would do to the economy! It would affect all of us. (Loans default. Bank collapses. Real estate bubble pops.)
I am still in favor of deporting illegals. I guess my point is that we should have been enforcing the laws all along instead of waiting until we got to the point where it would be extremely painful to do so. Better to take the bitter medicine now than to wait until later when the treatment becomes even more painful.
BTW, Amnesty is not the answer. That teaches the lesson that you can get away with illegal activity and it punishes all those who came here legally and did all the hard work required to obtain legal residency and/or citizenship.
What a novel idea. Think we can sell this at the federal level?
Personally, I think it'd be a windfall for them, as they can immediately foreclose on said properties and resell them at a higher rate. (Assuming the "tenants" didn't completely destroy it first...)
"Wonder how long it will last before some activist liberal judge strikes it down?"
My thought exactly. We passed the same "no benefits for illegals" law here in CA, only to have it immediately struck down by the 9th Circus.
I actually got a letter from my Democrat delegate in our state Assembly, and he was very supportive of this act. Of course, he also gave me the song and dance about how Virginia can't afford to crack down on illegal immigration, and it should be a Federal job. He does seem reasonable on the subject though, and he's representing one of the few openly communist districts in the Commonwealth, so I figure that speaks volumes...
"A lot of us were saying, instead of raising taxes, why don't we start prioritizing where we're spending our existing money,"
Short of deporting illegals, I am all for sending all of them to Maryland. There's not a more deserving state in all of the Nation than those shifty guys north of the Potomac. ;)
We have massive problems with illegals on the Eastern Shore. They are apparently driving up and down U.S. Route 13, without licenses, and are causing quite a large number of fatalities. By no surprise, if they don't bother to follow immigration laws, they have proven not to be inclined to follow DUI laws as well. I'm hoping the General Assembly will do something to discourage the farming conglomerates on the Shore from hiring illegals, which should help the situation somewhat.
Gabz - You're local to that area; How do things look from your perspective?
Praise the Lord that the Old Dominion is not under the jurisdiction of such a bunch of clowns. The 4th Circuit has proven to be extremely conservative, so hopefully we'll luck out.
I hadn't seen it.
Preventing illegal aliens from receiving Medicaid only punishes the doctors and hospitals, not the illegals. The illegals continue to receive medical care at Virginia hospitals: it's federal law that the hospital can't turn them away if they show up in the ER complaining of a headache or a term pregnancy, an owie finger or a myocardial infarction. The hospitals provide them with state-of-the-art health care without discrimination, but then won't get paid by Medicaid. And then everybody's surprised when the hospitals go bankrupt and close their doors. Then nobody gets treatment.
This isn't over yet. The libs and ACLU haven't taken it to court yet. I'll be waiting for the follow up....
Bump for later.
Things have changed on Michael Chertoff's watch. Even if you are legal, there are a lot of things that you have to do now to prove that you're legal, that you've committed no crimes, etc.. Having a social security no. doesn't guarantee that you'll be able to buy a house. There are now a lot of cross-checks built into the process that weren't there before. The Department of Homeland Security is, at least in some aspects, doing a great job.
And fake ones supplied by the state. - Tom
source tech.mit.edu archives
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1989
Illegal aliens now ineligible for welfare
Governor Michael Dukakis said Wednesday that the state will stop issuing dummy social security numbers to illegal immigrants, a practice that had enabled the immi- grants to get millions of dollars in state welfare benefits.
While federal officials have said that the practice is per- fectly legal, Dukakis stated that the state could no longer afford it. Muriel- Heilburger of the Massachusetts Immi- grant and Refugee Coalition called the move a tragic re- treat from the state's commitment to help refugees.
That just means the next step would be for the states to encourage hospitals to disobey that federal "law", as it's blatantly unconstitutional.
I must respectfully disagree with you. Hubby is a real estate appraiser. It happens all the time ( hubby will not play along), because there are brokers out there who will do anything for a buck, and banks who will look the other way too. It's all about the mighty dollar, my friend.
We have a friend here in town who is kind of the Godfather of the Mexican community. I am amazed to see how mainstream illegals have become, and very, very few people give a damn.
I am also very good friends with the go to guy for Vietnamese immigrants. Interesting differences between the two communities. The Vietnamese community has tremendous respect for the law, and I have never met an illegal Vietnamese immigrant. And, they work their butts off, they learn English, and they go to college.
Intersting differences, and one that has certainly influenced my views on this subject.
While I am all in favor of this law, what is to prevent from some corrupt judge from overturning it? In Arizona, for example, a judge ordered the state to provide more money for schools but also ordered the schools to graduate select students (Hispanics?) even though they failed to pass required tests.
Tells them to go home or to Boulder, Colorado?
Yeah - The waiting rooms at every emergency center in Northern Virginia are always packed with Mexicans coughing, with very little evidence of an injury that would be considered an "emergency." When the hospitals determine that it's not a true emergency, I think they're allowed to bill the patient - but very few "patients" pay for the services rendered, thus passing the bill on to people who use the hospital's services lawfully. I do think the hospitals are allowed to pass this loss on to the Federal government, under recent legislation passed by Congress, but I may be wrong...
Thanks, I appreciate both the respect and the view point. I just closed on a house yesterday and the process was a whole lot different than my previous home buying experience. I'm a permanent resident alien, not a citizen yet. I certainly felt the difference in scrutiny. I welcomed it and applaud MC, but I do realize that there's a lot that I don't know.
Arizona's Prop 200 is still standing, isn't it?
Pandering or not, it's a good move. Now if the Feds will just sign on.
I suppose it probably depends on the lender. Congratulations!
Courts re-open on Tuesday..
Finally, someone exercises some guts and good sense.
Wow! Very good!