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'United States planning a military strike against Iran'
Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/31/5 | JPost.com staff

Posted on 12/31/2005 10:50:02 AM PST by SmithL

The United States government reportedly began coordinating with NATO its plans for a possible military attack against Iran.

The German daily Der Spiegel collected various reports from the German media indicating that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are examining the prospects of such a strike.

According to the report, CIA chief Porter Gus, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12, requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in 2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.

The German news agency DDP also noted that countries neighboring Iran, such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman, and Pakistan were also updated regarding to supposed plan. American sources sent to those countries apparently mentioned an aerial attack as a possibility, but did not provide a time frame for the operation.

Although Der Spiegel could not say that these plans were concrete, they did note that according to a January 2005 New Yorker report American forces had entered Iran in 2005 in order to mark possible targets for an aerial assault.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; gusthetalkingmule; iran; irannukes; nukeiran; portergus
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To: PeterFinn
The carter hostages poppped out of iran when RR took office on the day of inauguration.
51 posted on 12/31/2005 12:09:54 PM PST by brainstem223
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To: SmithL

I'm sure the NYT is already working hard trying to find a leaker on the Air Staff. Days before the mission, they will publish key aspects of the Air Tasking Order on page 1. It will no doubt be complete with the target list (with impact points), ingress/egress routes, mission time windows, ordinance loads, ELINT parameters, AWACS orbits, and (yes) even the tail numbers of planes. After all, the public has a right to know!


52 posted on 12/31/2005 12:10:25 PM PST by rbg81
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To: SmithL
The United States government reportedly began coordinating with NATO its plans for a possible military attack against Iran.

Shhhhhhhhh! It'll be our little secret. Nobody tell the NYTimes.

53 posted on 12/31/2005 12:11:14 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: RobbyS
You think the bundishere could still whuup the frogies?
54 posted on 12/31/2005 12:11:30 PM PST by brainstem223
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To: SmithL

we better do it now


55 posted on 12/31/2005 12:31:40 PM PST by cope85
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To: SmithL

The New York Times will tell us when it is going to be launched, from where it is going to be launched, and the specific targets.


56 posted on 12/31/2005 12:34:50 PM PST by doug from upland (NEW YORK TIMES -- traitorous b*st*rds)
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To: AmericaUnited
"God bless his memory forever!!!"

We were visiting family in Southern California over Christmas and took a ride up to the Reagan Library on the 28th. It was so crowded that they had to shut the place down right after we got in because they had reached full capacity!

It was great and the Air Force One exhibit is awesome.

57 posted on 12/31/2005 12:44:11 PM PST by Boss_Jim_Gettys (Willing to compromise...NOT)
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To: SmithL
Hold yer fire until the human shields are in place.
58 posted on 12/31/2005 12:50:14 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: SmithL

I believe Iran is a threat to our well being as a nation, but is China just going to let us go after their business partener? Doesn't China get 20% of their oil from Iran?


59 posted on 12/31/2005 12:51:44 PM PST by conservativehoney (I don't ask for handouts, so why should I handout to others??)
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To: SmithL
According to the report, CIA chief Porter Gus, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12, requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in 2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.

We already have access to bases at least as well positioned as Turkish ones. Diego Garcia for the heavies and tankers. At least one in a 'stan. Plus there are plenty of runways in Iraq just sitting around unused. Even Kuwait, Bahrain and Saudi can't be too pleased with the notion of a nuclear armed Iran.

60 posted on 12/31/2005 12:58:35 PM PST by El Gato
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To: proudofthesouth
And Comrade Klintoon would sell them our defense and technology secrets.

All for some Persian Poontang.

61 posted on 12/31/2005 1:00:43 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Brilliant
Of course we're planning a strike against Iran. We're probably even planning a strike against France, Britain and Mexico.

Don't forget our friends to the north (and pretty much every other country in the world).

62 posted on 12/31/2005 1:01:55 PM PST by jim-x (God help America survive its enemies within.)
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To: SmithL

What happened to the supposed revolution that's been in the works for the last ten years ?? Did the blog award race throw them off track ??


63 posted on 12/31/2005 1:02:25 PM PST by Rumple4
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To: SmithL

Why would we use Eqypt to launch an assault on Iran?

We only have about 15 airbases surrounding Iran right now (Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait and a couple of the 'stans) not to mention an aircraft carrier or two off-shore.

Pretty poorly designed fake article.


64 posted on 12/31/2005 1:17:13 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: SmithL

Probably and the prudent thing to do.

Anyone that has ever worked in Defense (DoD) knows that they have a gazillion plans.

Now, to get a Go Order is a different deal.


65 posted on 12/31/2005 1:33:07 PM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: RobbyS

Only partially correct. They are still a fairly formidable force under very controlled circumstances. Yes, The days of Blitzkreig are over (not necessarily a bad thing) but they still have potent Air Combat Capability. No one is looking at going in and taking over the place, just pasting the crap outta' it. That will spur internal unrest. Europe might just buy in to this. That will spook Syria too.


66 posted on 12/31/2005 1:36:28 PM PST by NAVY84
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To: SmithL
From Spiegel's English-langauge site, and no, it didn't get Porter Goss's name wrong.
67 posted on 12/31/2005 1:55:37 PM PST by GeneD
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To: GeneD; All

"langauge" = language

Oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!


68 posted on 12/31/2005 1:57:26 PM PST by GeneD
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To: SmithL

Targets painted, time's running out...Is anyone paying attention in Iran? Well, if the mullahs are, they'll whine about maybe cooperating if the sun comes up in the east and try for another two years of nuke development. Not going to work this time.


69 posted on 12/31/2005 2:02:58 PM PST by hershey
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To: TomGuy
Hopefully Rocky will take Byrd-Brain with him and we can watch their appearance on the friendly mooselimb network.

Perhaps the mooselimbs will "interview" them one at a time.

70 posted on 12/31/2005 2:06:21 PM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. (Don't forget to write, Tookie.))
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To: Rumple4; F14 Pilot
What happened to the supposed revolution that's been in the works for the last ten years ??

F14 you want to handle this one?

71 posted on 12/31/2005 2:07:38 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: GeneD
Nice analysis, thanks for posting. I found this particularly significant:

Sources in German security circles told the DDP reporter that Goss had ensured Ankara that the Turkish government would be informed of any possible air strikes against Iran a few hours before they happened. The Turkish government has also been given the "green light" to strike camps of the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in Iran on the day in question.


72 posted on 12/31/2005 2:10:31 PM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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To: jim-x
Wait until Sean Penn goes to Iran - that will be the signal.

"Sean has a long moustache.

Sean has a long moustache."

73 posted on 12/31/2005 2:13:39 PM PST by Bernard (Only the US government has the time, money and hubris to calculate exactly what it doesn't know.)
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To: brainstem223

Actually, both have good capabilities, but each has been starved by its government.


74 posted on 12/31/2005 2:17:50 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NAVY84

They are limited by the mission the government--and regional politics-- has placed on them. Europe still remembers the Wehrmacht. However, there is another difference. The German population is a lot older than it was. A large German family has two kids.


75 posted on 12/31/2005 2:23:03 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Cinnamon
I'm beggining to think this is a misinformation campaign... lmao and MSM lappinng it up thinking "oh oh this is iit! this is gonna bring Bush down!"

I have stated this in a previously posted article on the subject here. There is a good chance this is planted information, intended to root out leakers.

76 posted on 12/31/2005 2:36:52 PM PST by Adiemus (Iraqi's wave purple fingers, liberals wave white flags)
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To: finnigan2
If Bush doesn't already have a plan in place to strike Iran I would consider it an impeachable offense.

I don't think military planning against Iran is in the United States Constitution.

77 posted on 12/31/2005 3:11:56 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: SmithL

Seems like they would have put up stop loss orders if this were true.


78 posted on 12/31/2005 3:21:00 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Adiemus

You and everyone else is right to be skeptical.
We routinely generate full on scenario mapping plans for the kind operation described here.

( Remember how incredibly enormous such an operation would have to be.) Try to recall how enormous Gulf War operations of the past were.

Whether we intend to implement these plans or not we are obliged to ourselves and our allies to have these contigencies fully mapped out.

Assume nothing about how it may start,end or be abandoned...the latter being much more preffered.
Iran as our ally with no military conflict has been and still is our number one prefferred scenario.

For the obvious reasons of that being the "Check Mate" call to any further funding of world wide terrorism being bank-rolled by Arab nation states.

Peace would breakout with the full force of the morning sun.

As we face the prospect of the year ahead pray that this wonderful opportnity for world peace becomes reality.

You can rest assured that the fine people of Iran will join you in that prayer.


79 posted on 12/31/2005 3:28:02 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Brilliant
Of course we're planning a strike against Iran. We're probably even planning a strike against France, Britain and Mexico.

Isn't the military tasked with developing battle plans for almost every possible scenario? But it isn't everyday that we notify our allies, which are filled with traitors who'll tip off the enemy and leak to the press.

80 posted on 12/31/2005 3:29:19 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: ASA Vet; Rumple4

@ASA Vet

sure but not tonight!

LMAO

These people think it is a piece of cake to overthrow a well entrenched revolutionary government like the one that is ruling Iran today!


81 posted on 12/31/2005 3:57:28 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: finnigan2

We will surely go in,but only after Israel has made the firt run and the first drops.


82 posted on 12/31/2005 4:23:13 PM PST by hoppin john
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To: SmithL

Continue to improve anti-ballistic missile defenses in the USA and in Israel without stopping. Then let western Europe take care of its own problem with Iran.


83 posted on 12/31/2005 4:25:56 PM PST by familyop
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To: SmithL
I hope the corrupt Russians and Chinese enjoy the show.

Chimpy's little black triangles will take care of this "problem." They won't see or hear a damned thing.

84 posted on 12/31/2005 5:00:42 PM PST by Reactionary (The Liberal Social Order is a Hedonistic Idiocy)
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To: PeterFinn
"Reagan, well, this crap wouldn't even be happening if Reagan were President."
Iran-Contra crap happened on RWR's watch, IIRC.
85 posted on 12/31/2005 5:15:27 PM PST by GSlob
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To: PeterFinn
Jimmy Carter would talk the issue to death, speak about America's 'national malaise', and then send a half-hearted, unsupported strike team into Iran and then, after screwing things up hopelessly, he'd look deep into his soul and find a way to screw it up even more.

Then he'd put the cherry on the Sundae by sending out Ramsey Clark to sue the family members of the military personnel who died...

86 posted on 12/31/2005 5:25:32 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Cinnamon

Considering Sy Hersh and the other Bush haters were saying Bush was going to invade Iran LAST January, I'd say you are right. But Allah forbid any of them admit they were wrong and apologize to Bush.


87 posted on 12/31/2005 5:26:25 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Of course there won't be much left of the delivery point afterwards. But, hey, you can't have everything.

You mean like this: The new U.S. Above-Ground Nuclear Test Site, conveniently located in the former city of Tehran...?


88 posted on 12/31/2005 5:33:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: shadowman99
Saddam has a long moustache.
repeat
Saddam has a long moustache.

L’automne blesse mon cœur donne un coup de pied son âne d’une longueur monotone!

89 posted on 12/31/2005 5:37:24 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

"He'd have to find a twelve-year-old girl to consult with - "

Consult - hmmnnn. New name for lusting in his mind, eh?


90 posted on 12/31/2005 5:39:30 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Beckwith
Now, to get a Go Order is a different deal.

Actually, it's pretty easy, I'll demonstrate:

"Would you like French Victory fries with that?"

91 posted on 12/31/2005 5:39:32 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SmithL
American sources sent to those countries apparently mentioned an aerial attack as a possibility,

Ya think??

Good grief.

92 posted on 12/31/2005 5:41:43 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: GladesGuru

heh-heh. I was alluding to his famous discussion of nuclear disarmament policy with his daughter Amy(then 12, IIRC) over corn flakes one morning.


93 posted on 12/31/2005 6:56:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: JustDoItAlways
Pretty poorly designed fake article.

Plus, last time I looked, neither Saudi or Jordan was "neighboring" Iran. But then, this is second hand from "Der Spiegel," the German equivalent of Newsweek, so it's pretty much a mess.

94 posted on 12/31/2005 7:03:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: brainstem223
Was that not a marvelous, marvelous day?

A few weeks before RR's inauguration, my family all chipped in for a VHS recorder (cost $1,100.00 then!) so that we could record the event. I still get goosebumps when I play it back and see the 52 hostages disembarking from the plane at the Air Force Base in Germany.

95 posted on 12/31/2005 7:08:21 PM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: Cobra64
I don't think military planning against Iran is in the United States Constitution.

You are kidding, right? I think military planning for any contingency and against any conceivable enemy is required by the Constitution.

96 posted on 12/31/2005 7:08:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SmithL

I sure hope we have an attack plan for every country that is or might become an enemy. Wouldn't it be really stupid if we had no plans?


97 posted on 12/31/2005 7:10:33 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: proudofthesouth

Re your #30: "..And Comrade Klintoon would sell them our defense and technology secrets."

You mean the Chicoms haven't sold them to Iran already?

I have little doubt that the Klintoons still have their "sources" deep within the intel industry who keep them apprised of the latest secrets - for their fun, profit, or blackmail of their detractors/Political opponents whenever or however they see fit.

Did Hittlary ever give back those 700-some FBI files she stole?
Didn't think so.
Wanna bet she still has them regularly updated by her FBI moles?

Will you be surprised if Hitlarry gets a nice fat campaign contribution (indirectly, of course) from the PRC?

I won't.

They might be out of the White House, but they are very much still in Town, and not to be left out of any equasion involving world politics.


98 posted on 12/31/2005 7:33:22 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: rbg81

You know, I'm beginning to wonder if Al Jazeera has bought out the NYT and they just haven't told us about the acquisition yet?

Is anyone else beginning to see clues, here?


99 posted on 12/31/2005 7:39:09 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Porter Gus?

Goss' undercover name. I hear he moonlights as Porter Waggoner on the weekends.

100 posted on 12/31/2005 8:12:12 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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