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NSA Gave Other U.S. Agencies Information From Surveillance
The Washington Post ^ | Sunday, January 1, 2006 | Walter Pincus

Posted on 01/01/2006 7:33:31 AM PST by kristinn

Information captured by the National Security Agency's secret eavesdropping on communications between the United States and overseas has been passed on to other government agencies, which cross-check the information with tips and information collected in other databases, current and former administration officials said.

The NSA has turned such information over to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and to other government entities, said three current and former senior administration officials, although it could not be determined which agencies received what types of information. Information from intercepts -- which typically includes records of telephone or e-mail communications -- would be made available by request to agencies that are allowed to have it, including the FBI, DIA, CIA and Department of Homeland Security, one former official said.

At least one of those organizations, the DIA, has used NSA information as the basis for carrying out surveillance of people in the country suspected of posing a threat, according to two sources. A DIA spokesman said the agency does not conduct such domestic surveillance but would not comment further. Spokesmen for the FBI, the CIA and the director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte, declined to comment on the use of NSA data.

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Today's NSA intercepts yield two broad categories of information, said a former administration official familiar with the program: "content," which would include transcripts of a phone call or e-mail, and "non-content," which would be records showing, for example, who in the United States was called by, or was calling, a number in another country thought to have a connection to a terrorist group. At the same time, NSA tries to limit identifying the names of Americans involved.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; counterterrorism; dhs; dia; fbi; homelandsecurity; nsa; patriotleak; spying
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Walter Pincus and The Washington Post/NY Times axis of treason continue their efforts to undermine our national security in a time of war.
1 posted on 01/01/2006 7:33:33 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Sounds pretty good to me. The WAPO thinks Americans are going to be incensed by a President who takes seriously his oath to protect and defend? They need to get out of the Beltway.


2 posted on 01/01/2006 7:40:08 AM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: kristinn
"Walter Pincus and The Washington Post/NY Times axis of treason continue their efforts to undermine our national security in a time of war."


It's as if they were pushing for a court case on First Amendments rights before they lose the leftist Supreme Court.

Nah ... that couldn't be it.





3 posted on 01/01/2006 7:40:45 AM PST by G.Mason (I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone -- Bill Cosby)
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To: kristinn

Of course they gave the information to other agencies- no point in eavsdropping, if nothing is done with the information given.

Once again- the WP does not realize that we are at war with terrorists.


4 posted on 01/01/2006 7:41:59 AM PST by KCRW
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To: kristinn

One can only hope that when all the dots are connected the form of a MSM corpse will be revealed. Then we can all break out the crayons and color it dead.


5 posted on 01/01/2006 7:43:28 AM PST by Socratic (Acceptance is the key - Truth is the door.)
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To: kristinn
Sounds like the government is doing its job. to bad the Old Media is doing its best to get us all killed.
6 posted on 01/01/2006 7:44:05 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: kristinn

Are they STILL on this?

Bah.. I'm back from a week in 'purple' NE Pennsylvania.

Every single person I talked to in my family (some of who had to think hard, but DID vote for sKerry) don't give a lick.

The ones that did know about it even went so far as to say they don't care anyway becuase they are only talking to grandma about sunday dinner, or when to pick up sis at basketball practice. Several even, almost guiltily volunteered at the end of the conversation "I'm actually glad they are listening on people calling Pakistan or whatever"

My 1st prediction of 2006.... the MSM and democrats will find some new toy within the 1st week of this year and moveon (pun intended). Perhaps we can force this issue if we get the DoJ to start investigating the Prison and international wiretapping leaks.


7 posted on 01/01/2006 7:44:32 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: kristinn

Oh No!?!?

You mean somebody that obtained information gave it somebody who could act on that information?

I wonder what the author was saying on September 12th, 2001?


8 posted on 01/01/2006 7:45:05 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: kristinn

How dare they!!!!

Didn't they read Gorelick's memo.

The Wall!!! The WALLLLLLL.
We must have the wall --- [to protect the Clintons from being investigated].


9 posted on 01/01/2006 7:45:23 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: KCRW
NSA Gave Other U.S. Agencies Information From Surveillance I believe the correct response is: "No shi*, Sherlock."

Hey, I've got an idea! Maybe we should spend hundreds of millions/billions of dollars monitoring communications around the world and then not do anything with it.

Sheesh.

10 posted on 01/01/2006 7:45:30 AM PST by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com)
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To: kristinn
Dear Mr. Walter Pincus,

As an American Citizen I have the 'right to know,' as oft expressed by you newsie types about secret activities of my government, just exactly who your... current and former administration officials said since these officials are sworn to serve the Amercan public I demand to know who those sources are.

Sincerely,

One Angry American

11 posted on 01/01/2006 7:46:00 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: kristinn
Hmmmm is this from pillow talk? Did the possibility of revealing "Able Danger" spook the spooks? So many possibilities stand as motivation for leaking.
12 posted on 01/01/2006 7:46:06 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: kristinn

Government intelligence agencies working together? Excellent. Not working together, thanks to the Clinton/Gorelick wall contributed to 9/11. Thanks WaPo for showing our government is working on the war on terror.

Poor Wally Pincus is mad that his phony Plame scandal didn't pan out.


13 posted on 01/01/2006 7:46:35 AM PST by frankjr
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To: KCRW
They're printing plant is down the street from me.

No doubt it's managed to get itself placed on both the Russian and United Kingdom nuclear targeting lists, but probably not that of France or North Korea.

14 posted on 01/01/2006 7:49:31 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: frankjr

Government agencies working together? This isn't news...what would be news is that somebody is getting fired because Government agencies DON'T work together.


15 posted on 01/01/2006 7:49:39 AM PST by Clioman
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To: Trust but Verify
I think every member on the editorial staff at the NYT and Washington Post should be required to walk from Basra to Bagdad.

Then, they might get a different perspective on world affairs.

16 posted on 01/01/2006 7:52:18 AM PST by pointsal
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To: FreedomNeocon

We had a good rip roaring battle last night. Thanks to information from FR that I somehow managed to remember(I usually don't handle all out debate real well)several liberals at the party got shut down cold on their talking points.

The line that froze out the debate? "Name one US citizen that has had their rights trampled by the eavesdropping, name one group,"

"Uh? Well I don't know of anyone, I can't name anyone right now, but..." was the bumbled response.

I followed it up with, "Most of eavesdropping is between a phone from/to the US from a terrorist nation and most of these calls are not between a citizen and a terrorist...they are between two terrorists, which in my book are not citizens of the US."


17 posted on 01/01/2006 7:58:33 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: pointsal

Pointless stories like this feed the Democrat base, and make journalists like Pincus feel both important and holier than thou.


18 posted on 01/01/2006 8:00:00 AM PST by gaspar
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To: kristinn
Hooray for the NSA. Keep up the great work. Too bad more Americans don't know how patriotic, law abiding and essential you really are.

Shame on the Washington com-Post and The New York Slimes. They should relocate to France.

19 posted on 01/01/2006 8:00:31 AM PST by Rapscallion (They're no longer Americans; they're democrats.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
The ones that did know about it even went so far as to say they don't care anyway becuase they are only talking to grandma about sunday dinner, or when to pick up sis at basketball practice.

I care.  Deeply.

That's the bind, isn't it?  I don't want the government listening in on calls I or my family might make overseas.  Not one single second of them.  I'm a free American living in what is supposed to be a free society.

But, we are at war with a dangerously cunning and ruthless enemy.

At some point national and personal security does trump personal privacy.

Yep, that's the bind, alright.

20 posted on 01/01/2006 8:03:59 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

Hmm what were some of the complaints after 9/11? Not enough data collection. Not enough sharing of relevant data. People who should not have been ignored were ignored. So now that we have a president who does all that the lefties have a problem.


21 posted on 01/01/2006 8:06:46 AM PST by zaggs
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To: kristinn

Yeah. How long is it gonna take everybody to figure out that these newspapers are quite the traitors when they openly display U.S. plans to terrorists? Looks like the New York times is gonna be called on the carpet for their own treachery.


22 posted on 01/01/2006 8:06:55 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: FreedomNeocon

"My 1st prediction of 2006.... the MSM and democrats will find some new toy within the 1st week of this year and moveon (pun intended)"

You can bet that this issue is being polled and focus-group-tested by the DNC, as that is how Democrats determine their "principled" positions.


23 posted on 01/01/2006 8:09:48 AM PST by nj26
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To: kristinn
NSA Gave Other U.S. Agencies Information From Surveillance

GOOD!

They actually did their jobs, something they never did under Clinton. Can I assume a Congressional resolution praising the NSA for these activities is on the way?

24 posted on 01/01/2006 8:23:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

"Can I assume a Congressional resolution praising the NSA for these activities is on the way?"

Ha! Ha! I choked on my coffee with this one!


25 posted on 01/01/2006 8:27:25 AM PST by KCRW
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To: kristinn

If Kerry (shudder) won in '04 he would have kept all this in place.


26 posted on 01/01/2006 8:29:38 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: kristinn

Does the Post realize that NSA and DIA are both military intelligence organizations?

Too bad they can't name one other "agency" in this story.

Another non-story.


27 posted on 01/01/2006 8:31:30 AM PST by angkor
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To: filbert
Hey, I've got an idea! Maybe we should spend hundreds of millions/billions of dollars monitoring communications around the world and then not do anything with it.

Funny you should mention that, but that's exactly what we did prior to 9/11. Due to legal restrictions, it was easier for CIA guys to talk to Al Qaida agents than FBI agents.

28 posted on 01/01/2006 8:34:12 AM PST by Steel Wolf (If the Founders had wanted the President to be spying on our phone calls, they would have said so!)
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To: kristinn

Walter's pincus failed him.


29 posted on 01/01/2006 8:39:28 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: KCRW

I believe that the 9/11 Commission showed that we did NOT connect the dots...we had intelligence, but didn't share the info. Michael Barone was on FOx News yesterday and made the point that NO terror attacks since 9/11 is not an accident....Bush has taken an agressive approach to gathering info ON TERRORISTS!!! and using that info to stop attacks. I think that this will backfire on the Dems!


30 posted on 01/01/2006 8:44:37 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Racehorse
I don't want the government listening in on calls I or my family might make overseas.

You and your family making a lot of overseas calls to terrorists?

ACTION:REF/SRC:FR/CS:RACEHORSE/LIST:DOMCON/EOM

31 posted on 01/01/2006 8:51:34 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Racehorse

The way I see it, this issue cuts based on whether one believes we are really at war. Those who believe we are tend to support some temporary limits on personal privacy, be it monitoring international communications or having to have your backpack checked to ride the NYC subway.

But those who do not believe this is really a war, or feel terrorism is not really a serious threat, or who want Americans to forget 9/11, they've decided to use this issue to basically "rip America out of its war footing," so to speak, or to simply damage President Bush.

For those who believe we are at war, but who also have some concerns about privacy and freedom issues, please note that during most of its wars Americans have experienced some limits on their freedom, but these have always been temporary--the "slipery slope" argument just doesn't hold up.


32 posted on 01/01/2006 8:51:36 AM PST by zook
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To: kristinn
NSA Gave Other U.S. Agencies Information From Surveillance

Damn, I'm glad I voted for W.

33 posted on 01/01/2006 8:52:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: kristinn

NSA Gave Other U.S. Agencies Information From Surveillance


yes............


and we thought the "fbi files" were dangerous in the "wrong" hands...........


34 posted on 01/01/2006 8:53:36 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: ASA Vet
You and your family making a lot of overseas calls to terrorists?

Silly boy.

The premise that if you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to fear is . . . to be polite . . . foolish.

Unfortunately, shifting and modifying the paradigm of personal freedom with which many of us grew up and took as a presumption is now unavoidable.  Who, other than maybe the ACLU, still complains about the prevalence of surveillance cameras?

35 posted on 01/01/2006 9:04:50 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse
Was that a "yes" or "no?"

ACTION:REF/SRC:FR/CS:RACEHORSE/LIST:DOMCON/EOM

36 posted on 01/01/2006 9:11:59 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: ASA Vet

Can't give a "yes" or a "no." Nor can you.

Unless of course you're the one listening in on those calls. Can you list the profile that triggers the surveillance?

You've gotten all the answer your silly question deserves.


37 posted on 01/01/2006 9:18:05 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin; kristinn; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; gonzo; Bob Ireland; ...
"Yeah. How long is it gonna take everybody to figure out that these newspapers are quite the traitors when they openly display U.S. plans to terrorists? Looks like the New York times is gonna be called on the carpet for their own treachery."

And what is the underlying reason for why the DemocRATS and their MSM friends are traitors in the first place?

It's because they're cowards.

Cowards are much more horrified by "conflict" than they are by tyranny.

Unlike men who exhibit strong, masculine leadership qualities --(such as confidence, boldness, decisiveness, etc.)-- the more feminized the males in a society become, the less they have the stomach for conflict / confrontation and the more likely they are to exhibit other soft feminine traits such as a preference for "consensus".

Cowards can never stay free for long, and if they obtain power, they'll take the rest of us down with them.

So I view feminized males and other "conflict-averse" mentalities as a threat to freedom in America, and around the world. I make it my business to do what ever I can to prevent cowardly mentalities from obtaining power. Other "concerns" are secondary.

I say it this way:

"There will be peace on earth, but only among men of good will.", while thinking: "the rest had better be afraid - be VERY afraid."

Cowards, fearing to perpetuate what they call, "the cycle of violence", say it this way:

"Peace on earth and good will to _all_ men.", while thinking: "because I don't want to offend those who are justified in harboring ill will or hurt their feelings, it might only make them madder and they might come after me."

There will be a Happy New Year for all men and women of good will! Happy New Year, FReepers!

The phonies and cowards will lose again in 2006! This is America - and we don't identify with phonies and cowards.

(Any bumperstickers that reflect those sentiments will sell like hot cakes).

38 posted on 01/01/2006 9:24:30 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: kristinn

1st off, I do not see anything revealing in the summary posted.

Intelligence DEVELOPED by the CIA would be immediatedly sent to the JUSTICE DEPT/FBI for domestice follow-up. The DIA and CIA would obviously be interested in foreign transactions and activity.

All in accordance with the rules and the Presidential Order as stated.

Nothing new here. Just more ink trying to fan flames.


39 posted on 01/01/2006 9:30:17 AM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: zook
. . . the "slipery slope" argument just doesn't hold up.

I pretty much agree with what you wrote.  But, sometimes things do get out of hand.

The World War I era provides an example. 

In January (1916), under authority of a special act of the 35th legislature, a Loyalty Ranger Force was authorized, to consist of approximately three picked men from each county in Texas. The duties of this force were to act as a secret service department for the State and work in conjunction with all Federal, State, county and municipal officers in the execution of all State laws, especially House Bill No. 15, better known as the "Hobby Loyalty Act." Through the assistance of the loyalty secret service department, the Adjutant General was kept advised as to the Mexican revolutionary activities carried on, principally outside of San Antonio and in the border counties in Mexico and Texas.

As you point out, our secret service was a temporary action.  But, during their short careers the Loyalty Rangers inflicted a lot of pain and some injustice.

I don't see the War on Terror being a temporary action.  In 1898 we started fighting a Muslim insurgency in the Philippines.  As allies with the present Philippine government, we're still fighting their descendents.  I don't think the threat from fundamental Muslim terrorists will be any less short lived.

If I'm right, and I hope I'm wrong, the temporary measures you describe may be extended a wee bit further into the future.

40 posted on 01/01/2006 9:36:34 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: KCRW
Now..I recall my ears ringing a few years ago from the MSM about the blame for 9-11 being different intelligence agencies DIDN'T Co-operate. So what's REAL the concensus WP?..Oh I see, whatever you can write to damage Bush as the opportunity presents itself.
41 posted on 01/01/2006 9:43:21 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: Just mythoughts
I think you hit the nail on the head. When Able Danger was on the brink of being revealed, the big fuss over nice Ms. Wilson rose up and buried Able Danger. I believe the terrorist pilots in California were citizens. I think the reason that Clinton "did nothing" was not only because of the wall which HE PERSONALLY could bypass but because it might have given the Repubs an opportunity to go after him about "citizen surveillance"....the fuss that is now going on.

Of course, 500 FBI records is nothing. The Foster death was nothing. The Brown death was nothing. Whitewater was nothing. Travelgate was nothing. Monica was nothing. So look at the record....everything dirty is about Bubba and friends AND WIFE. How many of his friends landed in jail??

And the one thing that should have been taken more seriously by Bubba "PERSONALLY" in the form of DUTY (National Security) was tossed aside to PROTECT HIM. Treating terrorists like common criminals was not the intention of our founders. George Washington made it VERY CLEAR when he denied Andre a pardon that he didn't want to be considered soft on "Treason".

42 posted on 01/01/2006 10:26:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Racehorse
It's really not the bind. National Security trumps the 4th amendment. The ACLU already lost their case. It is referenced in the documents on the FISA sight. There is also another statement that the President has his own powers as Commander in Chief separate from the FISA PROCESS.
43 posted on 01/01/2006 10:31:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: kristinn
I thought the 9/11 commission complained about agencies not sharing information... sounds like they are doing what they have been directed to do.
44 posted on 01/01/2006 10:37:02 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: kristinn

The people complaining about the NSA monitoring calls and sharing information were the same people crying about the government not doing enough to fight terrorism prior to 9/11 and not sharing information between agencies. They just need something to bitch about.


45 posted on 01/01/2006 10:49:32 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Americanexpat
They're also either clue less or deliberately deceiving.
46 posted on 01/01/2006 11:20:42 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I knew there would be a reaction to exposing Able Danger, and Hillry saying she was opposed to spying upon Americans was hysterically funny in a sick twisted way. The woman has NO shame.
47 posted on 01/01/2006 11:34:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Matchett-PI

Yeah. You go Matchett-PI. More power to ya. Just wish most people would realize they are just a bunch spineless nut cases.


48 posted on 01/01/2006 1:51:36 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: kristinn

Well, Democrats have been searching for a campaign platform. I suppose running on a platform of Treason is finally at long last an idea they can run with and claim all their own.

I suppose Walter and WAPO believe either way they win. This either wins Democrats elections, or it screws "George Bush's war". The idea that the war is keeping their heads attached to their necks rather then being sacrificed to Allah doesn't seem to compute.

With every action of Treason they quite literally force me to vote Republican. Even if there are a few I want gone, everytime I consider it, someone like Murtha sticks his head out and pulls another Benedict Arnold. Leaving me to conclude if they won't stop selling this country to the Islamofascists, that they'll all just have to be driven so far into the minority that they'll be lucky to be invited to secretive briefings on what beverage will be served for the day.


49 posted on 01/01/2006 2:21:47 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: kristinn
The NSA has turned such information over to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and to other government entities, said three current and former senior administration officials, although it could not be determined which agencies received what types of information. Information from intercepts -- which typically includes records of telephone or e-mail communications -- would be made available by request to agencies that are allowed to have it, including the FBI, DIA, CIA and Department of Homeland Security, one former official said.

And this is a BAD THING? If they weren't sharing the data, but instead collecting and analyzing their own, I would be writing my Congresscritter about a massive waste of taxpayer funds!

50 posted on 01/01/2006 5:59:26 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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