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The Depiction of Israel and Jews in the Film "EXODUS"
Exodus | 1/2/06 | Cinnamon Girl

Posted on 01/02/2006 1:43:27 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

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To: Ditto
Re: 26,

The most accurate analysis is yours. Extreme socilalism/communism is what Hollywood is all about, not Jewishness. Hollywood promotes communism by and large and has since the twenties. This plague never rests and will attack any who move away from communism or are successful using capitalist endeavors.

61 posted on 01/02/2006 2:44:56 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Happy New Year FReepers.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I'm sorry. I didn't consider it throwing Judaism out the window, but I can see how it can be taken that way. I didn't mean to be offensive.


62 posted on 01/02/2006 2:46:29 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

"Exodus" really brings back memories. I enjoyed both the book and the movie. One of my Jewish friends went gaga over the Karen character. The movie was made at a time when the actions of the Israeli founders could still be considered heroic and stirring. Such a movie made today would be roundly criticized by every magazine in America. Israel is not considered politically correct.

But I enjoyed the movie, and I really don't care what Paul Newman thinks of it.


63 posted on 01/02/2006 2:47:53 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Miss Marple

I heard Michael Medved say once that a major reason America was loved by the world 50 years ago was that Hollywood loved America and that was what people saw of us around the world. And similarly, a major reason why people hate us today is that Hollywood hates America and that is what people now see of us. If we hate ourselves (as though Hollywood represents America, but how would others know that?). Like you, I love the theme music to Exodus. Yes, the old Hollywood was much better.


64 posted on 01/02/2006 2:49:24 PM PST by twigs
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To: Miss Marple

"If you REALLY want to look at how favorably the Jews used to be treated, go watch "The Ten Commandments" and "Ben-Hur" again."

At least as long as they were played by Charleton Heston.


65 posted on 01/02/2006 2:50:04 PM PST by MajorityOfOne
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To: Cinnamon Girl

The old man.

But the Ari character is the typical Kibbutz Sabra who joined Hagganah then the IDF and then the succession of parties that are today's Labor. Not necessarily modeled after Rabin but pretty much Rabin.

The "brother", the old "terrorist" is probably Begin- who of course wasn't killed.

Notice that even the book and movie are socialist enough that by the end the Dov character abandons the Irgun for the Hagganah.


66 posted on 01/02/2006 2:51:06 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican

Leaders of the Judenrat couldn't believe the Nazis would kill them. they logically thought that alive they would be more valueble to the war effort. Evil is not logical.
Obviouslly the Israelis haven't learned from the past and they also think it may not apply to them because they are "new Jews"- the "i'm not Jewish I'm Israeli" and that by becoming such all anti-semitism would disappear-HAHA


67 posted on 01/02/2006 2:51:09 PM PST by avile
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Great movie, quite valuable, and you asked the right question.
68 posted on 01/02/2006 2:52:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Happy New Year FReepers.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
The Brits did a lot of crappy stuff in Israel.

They did a lot of crappy stuff after WWI regarding Middle East too.

69 posted on 01/02/2006 2:52:39 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: MajorityOfOne
They wanted the Jews to be viewed favorably, so they chose Charlton Heston for the roles. I believe he was also Peter in "The Big Fisherman."

My sister once said that Charlton Heston wouldn't be in a movie unless the title was in those giant, architecturally heroic letters. LOL!

70 posted on 01/02/2006 2:53:47 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: AmericaUnite

Leon Uris was a remarkable writer, one of my favorites when I was younger. Funny story about QBVII. I had a job in grad school where I answered the phone at night in the Emergency Radiology Dept at the university hospital. I was allowed to read because we had long periods of little activity. That book grabbed my attention so much--had me sitting on the edge of my chair--that when the phone rang at good parts, I would just about growl into the phone. How dare a caller interrupt me? Obviously, not a book I should have been reading at work. I just couldn't put it down.


71 posted on 01/02/2006 2:55:58 PM PST by twigs
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To: Cinnamon Girl

The book was much better than the film. In fact I read that the portions of the book concerning the Warsaw ghetto were so profound that Leon Uris was convinced to write Mila 18.

I did enjoy the scene where Newman asked for help from the officer (who could spot any Jew) getting a speck out of his eye. Gee, I haven't seen the movie in more than 30 years.


72 posted on 01/02/2006 2:57:05 PM PST by Radix
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To: EveningStar
I just looked it up. You must be right that it's The 27th Day.
73 posted on 01/02/2006 2:58:25 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: Cinnamon Girl

No mention of Frank Sinatra, a comedy-relief pilot who squirts at enemy fighter planes with a seltzer bottle?


74 posted on 01/02/2006 3:01:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: YaYa123
He must have lost his mind as he got older. I still have trouble believing that the man who wrote Mila 18 and Exodus also wrote the gun-grabbing crap that was his last book. Sorry, I don't remember the name, I threw it in the garbage immediately after reading it.
75 posted on 01/02/2006 3:02:10 PM PST by FrogMom
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To: dfwgator
Spielberg prefers his Jews as victims, not as fighters.

You're right. I never thought of it that way. Unfortunately, there are alot of smart Jews who think the same way. They don't understand that the only thing some backwards cultures respect is strength.

76 posted on 01/02/2006 3:05:21 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: Aliska

QB VII was about the trial in England of an author who had written that a Nazi doctor had performed "thousands" of experimental surgeries on Jews. He had, in fact, only performed hundreds.


77 posted on 01/02/2006 3:05:39 PM PST by FrogMom
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To: ozzymandus

That's in "Cast a Giant Shadow" not Exodus.


78 posted on 01/02/2006 3:08:31 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: twigs

Paul Newman was always embarrassed by his earlier film, "The Silver Chalice" and took out full-page ads in the trade papers apologizing for it.

I don't remember anything back then about him being embarrassed by "Exodus", but he and the director, Otto Preminger, had totally different styles, so perhaps Newman was not too happy while filming.

Who knows what Newman thinks of it now? Probably whatever "The Nation" thinks of it, since he donated at least $1,000,000 to that old pinko rag to keep it afloat.


79 posted on 01/02/2006 3:16:24 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

"Ari Ben -Canaan?" LOL! Maybe the name was in reference to the actor instead of the character. [g]


80 posted on 01/02/2006 3:18:10 PM PST by familyop (Fire Jezebel, and hire Elijah.)
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