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13 dead in Iran military plane crash (updated with photos)
Agence France Presse | January 9, 2006

Posted on 01/08/2006 11:56:49 PM PST by HAL9000

An Iranian military plane crashed in the northwest of the country on Monday, killing 13 people including the head of the Revolutionary Guards ground forces, Iranian news agencies reported.

The crash came barely a month after a decrepit Iranian military transport plane crashed into the foot of a high-rise housing block after suffering engine failure.

A total of 108 people were killed.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agoodstart; ahmadkazemi; falconjet; iran; irgc; irgcaf; iriaf; kazemi; pasdaran; planecrash; revolutionaryguard; revolutionaryguards; tehran
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To: FlatLandBeer

"Purge by the president of Iran. Perhaps the General was plotting a coup.....Not everyone in Iran is a nut case."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........
please name the "one" non nut case.. Thanks


51 posted on 01/09/2006 4:57:25 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: HAL9000

Probably just good ol-fashioned Islamic pinheadism. Like when the nutjob Jihadists couldn't get their F-14's working after all the Grumman techs left and took some parts with them. Probably only had to take the stepladders and ignition keys.


52 posted on 01/09/2006 5:11:41 AM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: F14 Pilot

The irony is it could be true, assuming it is possible to successfully tamper with the fuel gauge on such a plane.

Plane crashes seem to be a favorite world-wide for cleaning up domestic politlcal problems. I guess because there is usually no hard evidence left that is not strictly controlled by government investigators, if any at all.


53 posted on 01/09/2006 5:16:32 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: HAL9000

comment by Pat Robertson to follow.


54 posted on 01/09/2006 5:19:09 AM PST by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: WoofDog123

I came across this yesterday, you might be interested:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1554011/posts


55 posted on 01/09/2006 5:50:40 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: ChristianDefender

Right.......Ahlah who blesses the camel, doesn't do so well with aircraft.


56 posted on 01/09/2006 6:36:50 AM PST by newcthem (9/11- not terrorists - just troubled youths.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; Beckwith; beyond the sea; BIGLOOK; ...

Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto replay?

http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/midway/yamamoto.htm


57 posted on 01/09/2006 6:43:40 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The NY Slimes has been committing treason and sedition for decades.)
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To: HAL9000
Maybe this guy had some dirt on the Clintons????
You know where THAT leads!
58 posted on 01/09/2006 6:46:19 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: HAL9000
Whenever I see this headline regarding a socialist country I assume coup or counter-coup, generally the government itself cleaning house or announcing a change in policy.

Just about the time I start to feel smug I remember Ron Brown's unfortunate airplane trip.

59 posted on 01/09/2006 7:04:41 AM PST by norton
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To: norton
Just about the time I start to feel smug I remember Ron Brown's unfortunate airplane trip.

Don't all airplane crashes result in .45 inch holes?

60 posted on 01/09/2006 7:17:57 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: HAL9000

The Iranian's have a history of their aircraft just falling out of the sky due to pilot error or poor maintenance.

Examples:

110 killed in Iran plane crash

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/06/tehran.crash/

Iran plane crash kills 117

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1815680.stm

302 Dead In Iranian Plane Crash

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in541219.shtml

Iran Plane Catches Fire On Runway

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in689768.shtml


61 posted on 01/09/2006 7:22:04 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: FlatLandBeer; F14 Pilot
Purge by the president of Iran. Perhaps the General was plotting a coup.....Not everyone in Iran is a nut case.

That's what I was thinking. We don't know anything about this guy and the new president seems to be purging a lot of people. Does anyone know anything about this guy?

62 posted on 01/09/2006 7:32:40 AM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: Flavius
Your list is missing the July 3, 1988 Iran Airlines flight 655 attempt to ram the USS Vincennes with an Air Bus full of dead bodies.
63 posted on 01/09/2006 7:40:16 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: okie01

Porter Goss' fault!


64 posted on 01/09/2006 8:08:07 AM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: HAL9000
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3456

Before being appointed commander of the IRGC Ground Forces, Brigadier General Ahmad Kazemi was the commander of the IRGC Air Force. In that position, Kazemi was responsible for the production and development of Shahab missiles.

“The [IRGC] Air Force under the command of General Kazemi underwent serious development, and today the Guards Corps has the potent missile force of the Middle East”, Safavi said.

Iran has successfully tested the Shahab-3, which has a maximum range of 2,000 kilometres and can hit all cities in the Middle East.

In late July, Iran announced that it had fully developed solid-fuel technology in producing missiles, a major breakthrough that increases the accuracy of missiles.

Kazemi was also responsible for research and production of the Shahab-4 missile with a projected range of 3,000 km. Analysts say that Tehran is working round-the-clock to enhance the range and accuracy of the Shahab missiles which is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and reaching the heart of Europe."


MUNICH?
65 posted on 01/09/2006 8:15:17 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: McGavin999

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3456

Seems unlikely the President of Iran would want this guy dead. But plenty of others have good reason.


66 posted on 01/09/2006 8:17:02 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: McGavin999

According to a post at WoC, DEBKA (yes, I know . . .) Kazemi was an architect of the current super hard policies:

http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/007948.php#c4

Now, I usually ignore DEBKA, but they are sometimes right, and maybe so in this case.


67 posted on 01/09/2006 8:17:08 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: HAL9000

<<<<
The head of ground forces of Iran's Revolutionary Guard has been killed in a plane crash in northwest Iran, Iranian news agencies reported on Monday.
>>>>

I never expected to say this, but there is always a first time : "ALLAH HU AKKHBAR !!!"


68 posted on 01/09/2006 8:17:32 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: PureSolace

He wasn't martyred. He wasn't in the process of killing any one. No virgins for him. Tough luck Ahmad.

Most likely Abdul the plane mechanic hooked the blue wire to the red wire. He's been told before, blue to blue, red to red. No one's figured out yet that he's color blind.


69 posted on 01/09/2006 11:04:28 AM PST by Cheburashka
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To: jslade
Where do I send a card, flowers, etc..........?
---
Address it to Hell, c/o Lucifer.
70 posted on 01/09/2006 11:06:03 AM PST by Cheburashka
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To: McGavin999
The Revolutionary Guard is not part of the Iranian military and is set up to be a more loyal counterbalance to the Iranian Army. Sort of like the SS or the NKVD divisions in World War II. He was almost certainly a black hat.
That another black hat bumped him off is a possibility.
Most likely this crash is the result of bad plane maintenance.
71 posted on 01/09/2006 11:16:38 AM PST by Cheburashka
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To: HAL9000

Is it ok to ululate like those pali women did on 9/11 when they learned of our tragedy?

ololololololololololololololololololollolololol! Jumping up and down olololollolololololollol

Take that, you islamofazzies!


72 posted on 01/09/2006 1:22:46 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: All


73 posted on 01/09/2006 1:52:58 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: HAL9000

These terrorists died in the crash

74 posted on 01/09/2006 1:54:15 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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75 posted on 01/09/2006 2:17:45 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Nice pictures. Is it just me or does it really look as if the wings were blown off by a big BOOM?
That's a mighty big hole in the fuselage.


76 posted on 01/09/2006 2:24:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

All I understand is that the airplane ran out of fuel and managed to land somewhere out of the city but it failed


77 posted on 01/09/2006 2:28:57 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: All


78 posted on 01/09/2006 2:40:28 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: HAL9000; Cindy

79 posted on 01/09/2006 2:41:10 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

I'm certainly no expert in 'plane crashes, but from what I can see, it does look as if a crash-landing was attempted. Looks like the wings were ripped off?

Funny thing is, I have seen worse wreckage in which there were survivors, the cockpit looks to be intact...wonder what happened to the pilot?


80 posted on 01/09/2006 2:42:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

Good Question!

I am digging for more info


81 posted on 01/09/2006 2:44:24 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Forget that comment about the cockpit, the pics you just posted show it's in pieces...


82 posted on 01/09/2006 2:45:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
Nice pictures. Is it just me or does it really look as if the wings were blown off by a big BOOM? That's a mighty big hole in the fuselage.

You're not the only one to think that. The first thing I thought after seeing the images was that a big BOOM brought this thing down - not running out of fuel.

83 posted on 01/09/2006 2:59:51 PM PST by adaven (http://www.red-dawn.net (The Man Show of forums))
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To: Allegra

I'm pretty sure Adolf Ahmadinejad has banned that.


84 posted on 01/09/2006 3:03:00 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: thchronic; F14 Pilot

Very encouraging development if true. What is the source of the pics, public or private?


85 posted on 01/09/2006 3:09:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

Public!


86 posted on 01/09/2006 3:11:18 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: thchronic

It is believed that these guys were opposed to Ahmadinejad presidency and protested that!


87 posted on 01/09/2006 3:12:05 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

"Public!"

I should have said private or 'official' I guess.

Mind you, if I was a despot, there's no way I would release these pics. Not until I had my cover-story scripted. There are too many holes in this story, almost as many holes as there are in the fuselage...something tells me these pics are not of the official kind.


88 posted on 01/09/2006 3:22:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: F14 Pilot
It is believed that these guys were opposed to Ahmadinejad presidency and protested that!

What source says that? Everything I read says the Revolutionary Guard greatly supports this insane Ahmadinejad.

89 posted on 01/09/2006 3:23:28 PM PST by KillTime (Western Civilization herself breathes a sigh of relief as President Bush wins 4 more years.)
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To: KillTime

different sources mostly from inside of Iran.


90 posted on 01/09/2006 3:25:53 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

"It is believed that these guys were opposed to Ahmadinejad presidency and protested that!"

Whatever. If true, it's good to see the crazy man is unravelling and maybe killing his own. His own assassination can't be far behind.


91 posted on 01/09/2006 3:35:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: F14 Pilot

Did you read this article? (snip)

Less than three months ago, on August 15, 2005, Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad took office as the new "selected" President of the Islamic Republic of Iran with huge doubts over validity of the elections.

· He immediately purged nearly all senior governing positions of older generation clerics and officials and replaced them with his military colleagues of the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) – about 350,000 strong, in which, prior to becoming Mayor of Tehran, he had been a commander.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1554757/posts


92 posted on 01/09/2006 3:50:18 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

I have serious doubts about the author of the article!


93 posted on 01/09/2006 4:19:53 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/2005/12/assassination-and-c-130.html

Is this supposed to be the same person?


94 posted on 01/09/2006 5:32:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

yep


95 posted on 01/09/2006 5:37:00 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

That doesn't leave us with too many people one can trust. I'm thinking maybe you are ok, but what about me, can I trust myself LOL?

The next few weeks should be very interesting.


96 posted on 01/09/2006 5:43:34 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

You are trusted

lol


97 posted on 01/09/2006 5:47:29 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
Thanks.

a curse upon all things arabic.

98 posted on 01/09/2006 6:08:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

lmao


99 posted on 01/09/2006 6:10:41 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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