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Streisand: "Is This The Democracy We Are Fighting For?"
barbrastreisand.com ^ | 1/3/06 | Barbra Streisand

Posted on 01/09/2006 8:12:32 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Is This The Democracy We Are Fighting For? ...Barbra Streisand

Posted on January 3, 2006

Why are we really fighting this war? First it was the search for WMDs. None were found. Then it was hunting for the terrorists and "smoking them out." Weve only created a breeding ground for more terrorists. Finally, President Bush insisted the mission in Iraq was worth it in order to bring democracy to the country and unseat Saddam Hussein, a very bad guy, but one who was contained economically, politically and militarily. Remember, he was our ally in the fight against Iran.

And there are many countries that need democracy, but the United States has not gone in militarily and usurped control. But Iraq has oil and Bush has a lot of big oil friends.

For the past 2 ‡ years, the President has exhausted the public with his rhetoric that building a democracy in Iraq will establish a peaceful civil society that will ultimately be an ally in the war on terror. In speech after speech, the country has heard the message point hammered home from Bush, Cheney, Condi and Rumsfeld: A free democratic Iraq is central to the war on terrorism. But judging by the climate of violence and unrest that still continues in Iraq, that battle is far from being won.

Central to the creation of a free and democratic Iraq was the notion of having the Iraqi people elect their own leaders. Amid great anticipation, the Iraqi elections were held in December. The good news is that there was strong turnout, little violence and large-scale participation by Sunni Muslims, who along with the Kurds, are the underrepresented, minority religious faction in Iraq. The White House heavily supported and hoped for Ayad Allawi to be victorious. While a Shiite, he believed in a modern secular government. The bad news is that the Administration, in their desperation to present the world with a successful and free Iraq election, had largely ignored the growing fury felt by many Sunni Arabs over the dominance of fanatical religious Shiites, who seek to implement their own version of fundamental Islamic law.

The Administrations biggest fear was the possibility of a fundamentalist Shiite controlled Iraqi government, and that is now the likely reality. With the recent Iraqi election, the only regime that we have helped to erect is a theocratic one, where fundamental Islamic law will likely continue to repress the Iraqi people, spread religious intolerance and deny basic rights to women. Is this what we are fighting for?

The result of the December election has plunged Iraq into political turmoil. Preliminary results showed the advancement of the United Iraqi Coalition, supported by the Shiite religious figure Ayatullah Ali al-Seistani. Days after the election, Sunni Arab leaders had angrily rejected early election results, saying that the vote has been fixed to favor the Shiite majority party. Sunni Arab politicians have threatened to boycott the political process altogether, which would be a serious set back for the Bush Administration.

With the religious Shiite faction having gained control of the Iraqi government, religious law will be high on their agenda. The Islamic law that is favored by the Shiite fundamentalists has horrible implications for women. "Personal status" law, which governs marriage, divorce, inheritance, burial, and other issues, will likely replace the uniform civil code. It is possible that the December election may be the first and last "free" election the Iraqi people will participate in.

The fundamentalist Shiites have strong ties to Iran. With the Shiite victory, Iran will now become a close ally to Iraq and even more of a threat to the United States. In addition to proudly announcing their nuclear capability, Irans unstable President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, called the Holocaust a 'myth' and pledged to destroy Israel. This new alliance is dangerous for the US and far from the secular democratic government that the Bush Administration naively envisioned for a dictatorless Iraq.

Is this the democracy that we have been fighting for? Or has the Bush Administration failed once more in their mission to make America safer. There are no WMDs, there is an increasing anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and around the world, chances for a true democracy in Iraq are slim and a dangerous alliance between Iraq and Iran is likely. The Bush administration has made a mess in Iraq that they seem incapable of cleaning up. And speech after highly publicized speech by the President will not change this reality.


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To: kiriath_jearim

What branch of service and for how many years did Babs serve?


21 posted on 01/09/2006 8:23:39 AM PST by RetiredSWO
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To: kiriath_jearim
"Saddam Hussein, a very bad guy, but one who was contained economically, politically and militarily."

These moonbats can't call a bad guy a bad guy. They have to first say he's "very bad" but then follow it with something positive, usually a phrase that begins with "but."
22 posted on 01/09/2006 8:23:52 AM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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To: kiriath_jearim

"Paging Doctor Streisand, Doctor Moe, Doctor Curly!"
http://ladyjayes.com/sendintheclowns.html


23 posted on 01/09/2006 8:24:01 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: kiriath_jearim

I thought that bloated bag of hot air would shut up by now.


24 posted on 01/09/2006 8:24:49 AM PST by desherwood7
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To: kiriath_jearim
But Iraq has oil and Bush has a lot of big oil friends.

Only a Hollywood nitwit would think someone would risk the destruction of their own political career and reputation to help a few friends make money. The level of her stupidity is simply astounding.

25 posted on 01/09/2006 8:25:03 AM PST by Casloy
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To: sheik yerbouty

Then she should be Cherem'ed real good...........


26 posted on 01/09/2006 8:25:46 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Hey Babs, how's that public beach in your backyard working out for you?


27 posted on 01/09/2006 8:25:51 AM PST by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: dead
why the hell am I wasting my time reading the foreign policy blatherings of this rotten old half-retarded dingbat?

LMFAO! The same (not in those same words) thought crossed my mind. Basically....who gives a rat's ass what this dried up has been has to say on something she knows absolute ZILCH about?!

28 posted on 01/09/2006 8:25:59 AM PST by mozrock (They're not people, they're hippies!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Didn't she use to be a man, or is that five o'clock shadow natural?


29 posted on 01/09/2006 8:26:16 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: golfisnr1
Will this dim bulb ever shut up?

The old windbag thinks the world is waiting breathlessly for her next witless communique. Bad news Babs: No one cares. No one under 30 even knows who you are.

30 posted on 01/09/2006 8:29:29 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

We do NOT have a democracy. We have a Republic.

Democracy is MOB rule.

Republic is Representative form of government.

This dim bulb needs to just close and zip it.


31 posted on 01/09/2006 8:29:29 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: kiriath_jearim

No, we are fighting to keep this nation safe so it can be a land were even idiots with marginal IQ's, like Ms Streisand are free to spew what ever ill concieved, irrational diatribe they wish to spew.


32 posted on 01/09/2006 8:30:12 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: kiriath_jearim
There are no WMD's - right, and you ain't gotta big nose either.
33 posted on 01/09/2006 8:30:25 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: goldstategop
Babs b*tches but offers no real solutions. How would she do things differently in the Middle East?

She would have allowed Saddam to remain with his WMD development programs and military which would have necessitated a permanent U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia which would "breed terrorism".

Now that Saddam is deposed, she would have the U.S. cut and run in the face of people who can do little more than sneak around planting bombs. After we cut and run, the Sunnis would conduct yet another Shiite and Kurdish massacre where hundreds of thousands would die. However, by then, the liberals would not care in the least about the fate of the Iraqi people and would be worried only about saving cute baby seals.

34 posted on 01/09/2006 8:31:29 AM PST by Polybius
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To: kiriath_jearim

You would think that Streisand, a Jew, would realize that the Muslims and Islamofascists want her and all Jews, all Israeli's, all Americans and all so called "infidels" D-E-A-D and would make a choice for at least her own survival.


35 posted on 01/09/2006 8:32:45 AM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: dead

Now, now, now, let's not be hasty. I'm sure Babs is fully retarded.


36 posted on 01/09/2006 8:33:30 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The fundamentalist Shiites have strong ties to Iran.

They really don't due to the fact of a more basic opposition: Arabs vs Persians...
37 posted on 01/09/2006 8:34:51 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Who is Barbra Streisand?


38 posted on 01/09/2006 8:35:07 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: Red Badger
BABS SHUT YOUR FREAKIN PIE HOLE
39 posted on 01/09/2006 8:35:14 AM PST by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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To: Alouette

I agree. But she makes a great example of a person who's devoid of intellect.........


40 posted on 01/09/2006 8:36:24 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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