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Clerk foils robbery attempt by firing shotgun at suspect- "I just can't believe I missed him"
Chetek Alert ^ | 1-9-06

Posted on 01/09/2006 7:46:40 PM PST by SJackson

Authorities with the Barron County Sheriff's Department say that on Thursday, Dec. 29, at 12:33 p.m., they received a 911 emergency call from Trappers Crossing Bait and Liquor Store, located at 2534 8-1/4 Avenue in the Town of Chetek.

According to the call, two white males entered the store. One demanded money from the clerk while displaying a handgun. According to the sheriff's department, the clerk, Tomas Mulrooney of Los Angeles, Calif., removed a loaded shotgun from under the counter and fired one round in the direction of the suspect with the gun. Both suspects immediately fled the store, leaving in a dark green-colored truck.

The suspect was not hit or injured by the blast, and no money was taken.

The first suspect, the gunman, is described as a white male in his mid-20s with short blond hair and blue eyes. He is believed to be between 6' 1" and 6' 3" in height and weighing approximately 210-230 pounds with a muscular build. The second suspect is described as being in his mid-20s with short blond- or brown-colored hair and blue eyes. He is believed to be between 5' 10" and 6' in height and weighing approximately 220-240 pounds.

If anyone has information about this incident or can identify the suspects, they are asked to contact the Barron County Sheriff's Department at (715) 537-3106 or the Anonymous Tipster Line at 1-800-532-9008.

"I just can't believe I missed him"

Mulrooney, son of Trappers Crossing owner June Mulrooney, says he didn't feel bad about taking a shot at his assailant, and he would do the same thing again. "I just can't believe I missed him," Mulrooney says, shaking his head. "Mom's going to be mad when she sees this cooler."

Mulrooney says he was not surprised the store was being robbed, or who was robbing it.

"He [the gunman] had been in here last Tuesday [Dec. 20]," says Mulrooney. "I was changing some money and I had to reach into a green cash bag my mom kept in a drawer near the till."

Mulrooney reached down and opened the drawer to lend a visual reference to his story. He pulled out a green bank bag similar to the one in the drawer that day.

"I watched the guy as I was changing the money and he was watching the money very carefully," says Mulrooney. "I figured he was marking us, and he would be back at some point."

After the man left that day, Mulrooney says he told his mother that she shouldn't keep cash in that drawer.

"The guy made me kind of nervous, so I started thinking about bringing a shotgun down [from the upstairs apartment]," says Mulrooney. "Good thing I did, too." Quite a surprise

Mulrooney says he had just brought the shotgun downstairs to inspect that day, and was sitting at the counter of the store playing with a Playstation PSP, when the man returned - this time with another person.

"They both came in and walked to the back corner," says Mulrooney. "They talked there for a while and then walked back up to the front of the store."

Mulrooney says at that point, the second man walked over to the stack of newspapers near the door and started shuffling around. The first man then walked around the counter so that Mulrooney's back would be to the door, and demanded the money.

"He walked up and opened up the bibs he had on to show me the gun he had stuffed in the waistband of his pants," says Mulrooney. "He said, 'I know you've got money in a green bag in that drawer and I want it now.'"

Mulrooney says he went to set the PSP down on the shelf below the counter when he remembered the shotgun sitting there. He says he took one look at how the gunman was standing and knew he would have an opportunity to get at least one shot off.

"I knew it [the shotgun] was loaded, and I saw that he was pointing with his left hand and it was blocking his gun hand, so I knew I could get him before he got me," says Mulrooney. "I grabbed the shotgun and kind of shot from the hip."

Expecting the gunman to go down, Mulrooney admits he was amazed when the man and his partner ran out of the store.

"I couldn't believe it, he just stood there looking at me for a second and then ran out the door," says Mulrooney. "After he left, I looked at the hole the shot made in the cooler behind where he was standing and I realized the gun had freaking slugs in it."

Mulrooney says he couldn't have missed the gunman by more than six inches, and he certainly would have hit him if the load would have been buck or bird shot.

"He's pretty lucky, that's all I know," says Mulrooney. When asked if he has been rattled by the experience, Mulrooney explains that he lives in Los Angeles, Calif., and that he has been shot at before.

"It's like normal out there," Mulrooney says with a laugh, who adds that the incident hasn't tainted his view of Chetek one bit.

"My mom really likes the area, and I've actually been looking to start up a business here," confides Mulrooney. "The people here are so helpful and great. One idiot isn't going to change that."

June Mulrooney was on vacation in Arizona and could not be reached for comment.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; bang; banglist; wiarmedcitizen
If you're going to go downstais rather than call the police, next time, AIM. Buckshot would be nice under the circumstances.
1 posted on 01/09/2006 7:46:43 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"I just can't believe I missed him"


The flesh is willing but the aim is weak


I do admire his attitude.
2 posted on 01/09/2006 7:49:00 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: SJackson

People think that the quick snapshot under pressure is like shooting at the gun range on a sunny day.

I think that is a DEADLY presumption.


3 posted on 01/09/2006 7:51:36 PM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: Fido969

They also seem to think that shotguns are area effect weapons that you only have to wave in the general direction of the target (at whatever range) while pulling the trigger. They're not.


4 posted on 01/09/2006 7:53:31 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SJackson

Good post, except for the miss. Thanks.


5 posted on 01/09/2006 7:55:18 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Fido969

With an armed perp in your face, it certainly is. He's a very lucky man. Both actually.


6 posted on 01/09/2006 7:55:22 PM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: Spktyr
They also seem to think that shotguns are area effect weapons that you only have to wave in the general direction of the target (at whatever range) while pulling the trigger. They're not.

Sounds like my last Pheasant hunting trip... I swore I was aiming.. honest...
7 posted on 01/09/2006 7:56:16 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: SJackson
Birdshot, buckshot and a slug, repeating down the tube in mine... I know, I know, I'll just tick off whomever it is with the birdshot, but I've yet to hear anyone approaching someone holding a shotgun full of birdshot.
8 posted on 01/09/2006 7:56:29 PM PST by kingu
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To: SJackson

I once had a Mossberg 20 that seemed to shoot a donut pattern. Many a dove escaped from right in front of me.


9 posted on 01/09/2006 7:57:25 PM PST by stboz
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To: mnehrling
"I just can't believe I missed him," Mulrooney says, shaking his head. "Mom's going to be mad when she sees this cooler."

Better luck next time ping.

Oh, and your mom says you're grounded.
10 posted on 01/09/2006 8:00:35 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("An election is an advanced auction of stolen goods.")
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To: kingu


A load of birdshot at less than 6 feet can blow a pretty good sized hole in a person.


11 posted on 01/09/2006 8:02:31 PM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: SJackson
"I just can't believe I missed him"

It's easy to miss, even with a shotgun, but I'll bet you could follow the yellow and brown trail leading away from the store.

12 posted on 01/09/2006 8:16:58 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: mnehrling
Sounds like my last Pheasant hunting trip... I swore I was aiming.. honest...

That's your problem, you don't aim a shotgun, you point it. While it's not a true area effects weapon, it's not a pinpoint effect weapon either. Close does count when shooting moving aerial targets, or moving surface ones as well.

13 posted on 01/09/2006 8:19:37 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: SJackson
"After he left, I looked at the hole the shot made in the cooler behind where he was standing and I realized the gun had freaking slugs in it."

First of all, he probably didn't say "freaking".

Secondly, he should have checked the gun before bringing it into action. If he didn't even know what kind of ammo was in it, it could have been empty. Using buckshot might have given him a hit and saved some damage to the cooler.

14 posted on 01/09/2006 8:25:31 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: SJackson; All

slug barrel
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#4 buck
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Slagged perp.
Seen it. Real mess.


All in all better that the kid missed....
Perps ain't coming back (would YOU!!) and the kid doesn't have a dead man on his mind.
....just a dead cooler.


15 posted on 01/09/2006 8:29:07 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (No snappy tagline ideas available at this time... Please try again later.)
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To: mnehrling
Sounds like my last Pheasant hunting trip... I swore I was aiming.. honest...

Indeed... I've seen many a dead dove fly away after I shot them. :-)

16 posted on 01/09/2006 8:29:44 PM PST by ken in texas (Saving for retirement... can't afford a tagline)
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To: SJackson
Mulrooney says he couldn't have missed the gunman by more than six inches, and he certainly would have hit him if the load would have been buck or bird shot.

Probably not. Six inches is larger than the pattern would have been at inside a bait and liquor store distances. A cylinder choke results in about a 20" diameter pattern at 20 yards. At 10 yards, which is still 30 feet and fairly long range in that situation it would be around 1/2 that, or 10" diameter or 5" radius. He was probably closer than that. You don't have to aim a shotgun, but you do have to point it at the intended target, your eye forms the rear sight. Unless you have a rear sight of some sort on your shotgun, then you can aim it as you would a rifle. A ghost ring type seems to be the consensus choice.

17 posted on 01/09/2006 8:45:19 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: SJackson

agreed - boy needs to work on his gunnery sequence

breathe, release, AIM, squeeze

but I do give him high marks for willingness to defend his property and life.


18 posted on 01/09/2006 8:49:31 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: cavtrooper21; Disambiguator
The cooler doesn't look too bad to me.

I'd opt for shot, but shot, slug, whatever, confronting two assailants, one known to be armed, at close range, he's very lucky that miss (I missed the follow up shot, that's a miss too) didn't cost him his life.

19 posted on 01/09/2006 8:50:09 PM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: cavtrooper21
If you put buckshot in a rifled shotgun barrel you will get a donut shaped pattern.

L

20 posted on 01/09/2006 8:54:08 PM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: SJackson

Should have been using #1 buck. At close range you really can't miss. Sixteen .30 caliber pellets will do a job on anyone. Just get your Ouija board out and ask my neighbors late-night barking dog.


21 posted on 01/09/2006 9:01:52 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: KarinG1

Good point - For 20+ years I taught to use 0 or #1 for close range shot gun work. Its the most effective bang for the buck. Best close range patterning and most projectile weight tranfer to target. 00 is mucho macho sounding, but 0 or #1 does the best job in CQB's.


22 posted on 01/09/2006 9:14:55 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: El Gato
A cylinder choke results in about a 20" diameter pattern at 20 yards. At 10 yards, which is still 30 feet and fairly long range in that situation it would be around 1/2 that, or 10" diameter or 5" radius.

I would think it would be 1/3 the diameter or even less, since the shot load starts travelling as a mass inside the shot cup. Once the shot starts to spread, it will quickly start acting like a bunch of individual pellets rather than a unified mass, but it can travel some distance before that happens.

23 posted on 01/09/2006 9:28:14 PM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: El Gato

My own personal solution to the shotgun question:

http://personal.inet.fi/yritys/asenurkka/pistoolit/saiga12.jpg

Yes, that is a mag-fed AK-based 12 gauge shotgun. Comes in this configuration with rifle sights, another with a vent rib and bead, and another that's a slicktop.


24 posted on 01/09/2006 10:09:30 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Lurker
Heh heh, nice swirl pattern
25 posted on 01/09/2006 10:30:41 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: Spktyr
Spktyr states
They also seem to think that shotguns are area effect weapons
True, shotguns must be aimed, unless maybe you have one of these Duckbill Spreader on Ithaca M37
At close range, the spreader makes little or no difference, at longer range it is claimed to be quite effective. Never seen one myself, there is a chapter on combat Duckbill use in "Walking Point" by Chief James "Patches" Watson.
26 posted on 01/09/2006 11:20:14 PM PST by Nonesuch (Close only counts in hand grenades and atom bombs)
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To: mnehrling
Sounds like my last Pheasant hunting trip... I swore I was aiming.. honest...

Sounds like you need to invest in some quality choke tubes.

27 posted on 01/10/2006 3:00:59 AM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: Lurker

I use a smooth bore slug barrel...
(should have mentioned that)
..and you are right, rifled slug barrels will produce some of the wierdest patterns.


28 posted on 01/10/2006 6:08:56 AM PST by cavtrooper21 (No snappy tagline ideas available at this time... Please try again later.)
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To: SJackson
OK.
Wounded cooler!
29 posted on 01/10/2006 6:12:31 AM PST by cavtrooper21 (No snappy tagline ideas available at this time... Please try again later.)
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To: mnehrling
"I just can't believe I missed him," Mulrooney says, shaking his head. "Mom's going to be mad when she sees this cooler."

If he though hitting the cooler made a mess then he's probably lucky that he missed the crook.

30 posted on 01/10/2006 6:13:04 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: SJackson
...and I realized the gun had freaking slugs in it."

Do-oh!!!

31 posted on 01/10/2006 6:31:27 AM PST by Looking4Truth (It ain't the race, it's the culture!)
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To: supercat
I would think it would be 1/3 the diameter or even less, since the shot load starts travelling as a mass inside the shot cup. Once the shot starts to spread, it will quickly start acting like a bunch of individual pellets rather than a unified mass, but it can travel some distance before that happens.

You are probably correct. I was being my usual conservative engineer self. But I hadn't thought about the shot not starting to spread until the petals pull off the shot-cup/wad. Those generally travel about 15-20 yards, but much of that is after it has separated from the shot.

So, for the first few yards, the difference between a slug and shot is pretty negligible, and even for the next few after that, the shot column doesn't spread much.

Bottom line, I hope I never get shot by a shotgun at close range. And if I ever had to employ my serious social purposes shotgun for it's intended use, I hope there's somebody else to clean up the mess.

32 posted on 01/10/2006 3:22:38 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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