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The Man Who Conned Oprah--(Author scams Oprah and millions of women)
Smoking Gun ^ | 01/08/06 | smoking gun

Posted on 01/10/2006 8:50:51 AM PST by misterrob

JANUARY 8--Oprah Winfrey's been had.

Three months ago, in what the talk show host termed a "radical departure," Winfrey announced that "A Million Little Pieces," author James Frey's nonfiction memoir of his vomit-caked years as an alcoholic, drug addict, and criminal, was her latest selection for the world's most powerful book club.

In an October 26 show entitled "The Man Who Kept Oprah Awake At Night," Winfrey hailed Frey's graphic and coarse book as "like nothing you've ever read before. Everybody at Harpo is reading it. When we were staying up late at night reading it, we'd come in the next morning saying, 'What page are you on?'" In emotional filmed testimonials, employees of Winfrey's Harpo Productions lauded the book as revelatory, with some choking back tears. When the camera then returned to a damp-eyed Winfrey, she said, "I'm crying 'cause these are all my Harpo family so, and we all loved the book so much."

But a six-week investigation by The Smoking Gun reveals that there may be a lot less to love about Frey's runaway hit, which has sold more than 3.5 million copies and, thanks to Winfrey, has sat atop The New York Times nonfiction paperback best seller list for the past 15 weeks. Next to the latest Harry Potter title, Nielsen BookScan reported Friday, Frey's book sold more copies in the U.S. in 2005--1.77 million--than any other title, with the majority of that total coming after Winfrey's selection.

Police reports, court records, interviews with law enforcement personnel, and other sources have put the lie to many key sections of Frey's book. The 36-year-old author, these documents and interviews show, wholly fabricated or wildly embellished details of his purported criminal career, jail terms, and status as an outlaw "wanted in three states."

In additon to these rap sheet creations, Frey also invented a role for himself in a deadly train accident that cost the lives of two female high school students. In what may be his book's most crass flight from reality, Frey remarkably appropriates and manipulates details of the incident so he can falsely portray himself as the tragedy's third victim. It's a cynical and offensive ploy that has left one of the victims' parents bewildered. "As far as I know, he had nothing to do with the accident," said the mother of one of the dead girls. "I figured he was taking license...he's a writer, you know, they don't tell everything that's factual and true."

Frey appears to have fictionalized his past to propel and sweeten the book's already melodramatic narrative and help convince readers of his malevolence. "I was a bad guy," Frey told Winfrey. "If I was gonna write a book that was true, and I was gonna write a book that was honest, then I was gonna have to write about myself in very, very negative ways." That is repeatedly apparent in his memoir, which announces, "I am an Alcoholic and I am a drug Addict and I am a Criminal." It is an incantation he repeats eight times in the book, always making sure to capitalize the 'c' in Criminal.

But he has demonstrably fabricated key parts of the book, which could--and probably should--cause a discerning reader (and Winfrey has ushered millions of them Frey's way) to wonder what is true in "A Million Little Pieces" and its sequel, "My Friend Leonard."

When TSG confronted him Friday (1/6) afternoon with our findings, Frey refused to address the significant conflicts we discovered between his published accounts and those contained in various police reports. When we suggested that he might owe millions of readers and Winfrey fans an explanation for these discrepancies, Frey, now a publishing powerhouse, replied, "There's nothing at this point can come out of this conversation that, that is good for me."

It was the third time since December 1 that we had spoken with Frey, who told us Friday that our second interview with him, on December 14, had left him so "rattled" that he went out and hired Los Angeles attorney Martin Singer, whose law firm handles litigation matters for A-list stars like Jennifer Aniston, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and Britney Spears. While saying that he had initially asked his counsel not to send us a pre-publication legal letter, Frey apparently relented late Friday night. That's when Singer e-mailed us a five-page letter threatening a lawsuit (and the prospect of millions in damages) if we published a story stating that Frey was "a liar and/or that he fabricated or falsified background as reflected in 'A Million Little Pieces.'"

On Saturday evening, Frey published on his web site an e-mail we sent him earlier in the day requesting a final interview. That TSG letter also detailed many topics we discussed with him in our first two interviews, both of which were off the record. We consider this preemptive strike on Frey's part as a waiver of confidentiality and, as such, this story will include some of his remarks during those sessions, which totaled about 90 minutes. Frey explained that he was posting our letter to inform his fans of the "latest attempt to discredit me...So let the haters hate, let the doubters doubt, I stand by my book, and my life, and I won't dignify this bullshit with any sort of further response."

This was, Frey wrote, "an effort to be consistent with my policy of openness and transparency." Strangely, this policy seemed to have lapsed in recent weeks when Frey, in interviews with TSG, repeatedly refused to talk on the record about various matters, declined our request to review "court" and "criminal" records he has said he possesses, and continued to peddle book tales directly contradicted by various law enforcement records and officials.

But during these interviews, Frey did, for the first time, admit that he had embellished central details of his criminal career and purported incarceration for "obvious dramatic reasons" in the nonfiction work. He also admitted to taking steps, around the time "A Million Little Pieces" was published in hardcover in 2003, to legally expunge court records related to the seemingly most egregious criminal activity of his lifetime. That episode--a violent, crack-fueled confrontation with Ohio cops that resulted in a passel of serious felony charges--is a crucial moment in "A Million Little Pieces," serving as a narrative maypole around which many other key dramatic scenes revolve and depend upon for their suspense and conflict. Frey has repeatedly asserted in press interviews that the book is "all true" and he told Winfrey, "I think I wrote about the events in the book truly and honestly and accurately."

The author told us that he had the court records purged in a bid to "erect walls around myself." Referring to our inquiries about his past criminal career, Frey noted, "I wanted to put up walls as much as I possibly could, frankly, to avoid situations like this." The walls, he added, served to "keep people away from me and to keep people away from my private business." So much for the openness and transparency.

So why would a man who spends 430 pages chronicling every grimy and repulsive detail of his formerly debased life (and then goes on to talk about it nonstop for 2-1/2 years in interviews with everybody from bloggers to Oprah herself) need to wall off the details of a decade-old arrest? When you spend paragraphs describing the viscosity of your own vomit, your sexual failings, and the nightmare of shitting blood daily, who knew bashfulness was still possible, especially from a guy who wears the tattooed acronym FTBSITTTD (F@#k The Bulls%!t It's Time To Throw Down).

We discovered the answer to that question in the basement of an Ohio police headquarters, where Frey & Co. failed to expunge the single remaining document that provides a contemporaneous account of his watershed felonious spree.

Since the book's 2003 publication (the $14.95 paperback was issued last summer by Anchor Books), Frey has defended "A Million Little Pieces" against critic claims that parts of the book rang untrue. In a New York Times review, Janet Maslin mocked the author--a former alcoholic who has rejected the precepts of Alcoholics Anonymous--for instead hewing to a cynical "memoirist's Twelve Step program." A few journalists have openly questioned the truthfulness of some book passages, especially segments dealing with Frey undergoing brutal root-canal surgery without the aid of anesthesia and an airplane trip during which an incapacitated Frey is bleeding, has a hole in his cheek, and is wearing clothes covered with "a colorful mixture of spit, snot, urine, vomit and blood." And then there's the time in Paris (he's supposedly fled to Europe after jumping bail in Ohio) when, on his way to commit suicide by throwing himself into the Seine, Frey stops into a church to have a good cry. There, a "Priest," while pretending to listen to Frey's description of his wrecked life, makes a lunge for Frey's crotch. "You must not resist God's will, my Son," says the priest. A vicious beatdown ensues, with Frey possibly killing the grasping cleric, whom the author kicked in the balls 15 times. Mon dieu!

Frey told Cleveland's Plain Dealer in a May 2003 interview that the book was straight nonfiction, claiming that his publisher, Doubleday, "contacted the people I wrote about in the book. All the events depicted in the book checked out as factually accurate. I changed people's names. I do believe in the anonymity part of AA. The only things I changed were aspects of people that might reveal their identity. Otherwise, it's all true." However, the book, which has been printed scores of times worldwide, has never carried a disclaimer acknowledging those name changes (or any other fictionalization). Frey told us that his publisher "felt comfortable running it" without a disclaimer and that he "didn't ask or not ask" for one. "I didn't frankly even think about it."

In subsequent book store appearances (Frey can draw 1000+ fans and celebrity worshipers like Lindsay Lohan) and interviews, he has repeated the claim that "A Million Little Pieces" is truthful. And he has never shied away from discussing his criminal past.

In a recent "Meet The Writers" interview for Barnes & Noble's web site (which you can listen to here), Frey was asked about his history of incarceration. "I was in jail a bunch of times," he answered, "The last time I was in for about three months." When asked if books offered a bit of solace behind bars, Frey replied, "Yeah, I mean there's nothing to do there. You can go out to the yard and walk around or shoot hoops or lift weights. I didn't really want to do anything, so I spent most of my time reading books." Frey added that during that last three-month stretch he knocked off "Don Quixote," "War and Peace," and "The Brothers Karamazov." He also sampled some Proust, but found it too boring. "When you have literally hours and hours and hours a day to do nothing because you're locked in a cell, I found that the best way to pass time was to pick up books."

In a July 2005 interview, Frey recalled reading some of those classics to a fellow inmate, an illiterate accused double murderer nicknamed Porterhouse. "We got to enjoy the books at the same time, which was cool," Frey said. The author's Ohio jailhouse interactions with Porterhouse kick off the best-selling "My Friend Leonard," (currently #9 on the Times nonfiction list, also thanks to Winfrey). The first memoir ends with Frey leaving Minnesota's Hazelden rehab clinic, and "My Friend Leonard" picks up, months later, with him on the 87th day of a three-month jail term.

In an interview with blogger Claire Zulkey, Frey compared those two stints: "Jail is really fucking boring, and occasionally, really fucking scary. It is about doing time and getting it over with and staying out of trouble. Rehab is about fixing and changing your life. It, however, can also be boring and scary."

When recalling criminal activities, looming prison sentences, and jailhouse rituals, Frey writes with a swaggering machismo and bravado that absolutely crackles. Which is truly impressive considering that, as TSG discovered, he made much of it up. The closest Frey has ever come to a jail cell was the few unshackled hours he once spent in a small Ohio police headquarters waiting for a buddy to post $733 cash bond.

Winfrey's pick of "A Million Little Pieces" was unexpected since it overflows with vulgar and graphic language. It marked her abrupt and bracing return to the selection of contemporary authors after more than three years of choosing classics (and propelling those titles, often for months at a time, to the top of bestseller lists nationwide). Prior to tabbing Frey's book, Winfrey's other 2005 book club choices were three William Faulkner novels. Winfrey had selected books by John Steinbeck, Pearl Buck, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Leo Tolstoy, and Carson McCullers in the two prior years.

The coronation of "A Million Little Pieces" came in September, when Winfrey told a Chicago studio audience (which included Frey's mother Lynne) that she had chosen a book that she "couldn't put down...a gut-wrenching memoir that is raw and it's so real..." She would later say that, "After turning the last page...You want to meet the man who lived to tell this tale."

During the October show, which featured Frey as its only guest, Winfrey discussed details of that tale. He was, she said, "the child you pray you never have to raise," a raging, drug-abusing teenager who had been arrested 11 times by age 19. In college, he drank to excess, took meth, freebased cocaine, huffed glue and nitrous oxide, smoked PCP, ate mushrooms, and was "under investigation by police." By the time he checked into Hazelden in late-1993, Frey, then 23, was "wanted in three states," added Winfrey. Though Frey's book does not name the Minnesota clinic in which he stayed, the author has subsequently identified Hazelden as that rehab facility.

By that point, he had added three more arrests to his rap sheet (which now totaled 14 busts), including his multiple-felony bust for that melee with Ohio cops, a confrontation that started when Frey struck a foot patrolman with his car, according to the book. That episode serves as a crucial and transitional moment in "A Million Little Pieces."

"I know that, like many of us who have read this book, I kept turning to the back of the book to remind myself, 'He's alive. He's okay," Winfrey said. In essence, that is part of the book's narrative power and a primary marketing tool. All this terrible stuff actually happened to a guy named James Frey, a former degenerate who survived drug and alcohol addiction, escaped his criminal past, and somehow avoided a relapse in the decade-plus since leaving Hazelden. When Doubleday sent the book's galleys out to reviewers, editor Sean McDonald wrote a letter touting Frey's "fearless candor," while a publicity manager hailed his "unprecedented honesty."

Of course, if "A Million Little Pieces" was fictional, just some overheated stories of woe, heartache, and debauchery cooked up by a wannabe author, it probably would not get published. As it was, Frey's original manuscript was rejected by 17 publishers before being accepted by industry titan Nan Talese, who runs a respected boutique imprint at Doubleday (Talese reportedly paid Frey a $50,000 advance). According to a February 2003 New York Observer story by Joe Hagan, Frey originally tried to sell the book as a fictional work, but the Talese imprint "declined to publish it as such." A retooled manuscript, presumably with all the fake stuff excised, was published in April 2003 amid a major publicity campaign.

Frey told Winfrey that he wrote "A Million Little Pieces" with the assistance of "like 400 pages" of very detailed Hazelden records, documents that he told her included "legal records." In a promotional CD prepared by Doubleday, Frey reported gathering "all of my records: medical, psychological, financial, criminal, and otherwise" that were kept during his treatment center stay. Declining a TSG request to examine those documents, Frey said, "Once I start providing records for people it never ends for me...I feel like I provided the records to the people who were appropriate, who needed to see them." He added that he turned down The New York Times when the newspaper sought to review the material, though he showed Hazelden records to Winfrey staff members.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: chicksdigdrunks; conman; liar; oprahsucks; scammer
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To: RobFromGa

Exactly. Not someone I would have in my home even BEFORE the drugs became part of his life. So - no more chances from me. His dad says he must go straight to a live-in facility. I agree.


51 posted on 01/10/2006 9:30:41 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: cjshapi
Evidently fiction is stranger than truth.
52 posted on 01/10/2006 9:31:59 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: blaquebyrd

I read the book and didn't know it was a memoir until a few weeks after I read it (in fact, I had no idea it was an Oprah book). I thought it was fiction. That said, I enjoyed the book. I like how he used language to tell a story.

Now that I know its supposed to "non-fiction", I can't believe that many people really believed his story.


53 posted on 01/10/2006 9:32:30 AM PST by kemathen7
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To: misterrob

Sure are a lot of liars around being caught lately.

The Japanese guy who lied about his research, now this.

I would posit that if not for his endorsement by OpRAH, he would have never been caught. WAY TO GO OPRAH!!

In my best Howard Dean impression: Eeeeeiiiaaaaaaaaaghhhhh!!!


54 posted on 01/10/2006 9:35:09 AM PST by subterfuge (The Democrat party--hating American ideals for 60 years.)
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To: texas_mrs

YOUR husband (and you) are being SMART......


55 posted on 01/10/2006 9:38:08 AM PST by goodnesswins (Lies never sleep)
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To: misterrob
This is the first time I've heard of the guy. Guess I should watch Oprah at least once to stay up on these kinds of current events. As a recovering drunk and addict and former criminal (lowercase 'c'), I never considered writing anything about the life I once led, even though I'm a published fiction writer. Cashing in on old pain holds no appeal. His eagerness to do so should've tipped off the publishing house right away; it doesn't ring true. Another thing: I haven't read Frey's book, but from what I gathered, God doesn't make an appearance in it anywhere--no need for a Higher Power for this guy. So the central theme is one of redemption without faith, hence its appeal to the Oprah crowd. Yet another thing: one can't stay sober and clean and be dishonest. Doesn't happen.
56 posted on 01/10/2006 9:41:36 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: kemathen7; AppyPappy
I read the book too. It was given to me as a gift, so I never noticed how it was marketed. I found it a very interesting read, and found his use of language very original and unique.

I didn't give it alot of thought, but I just assumed it was a fictionalized account of his rehab. The whole style was sort of impressionistic and emotional. His relationship with Leonard was like something out of a crackhead Horatio Alger story, for example.

I guess I wasn't reading for historical accuracy and couldn't care less how much of it was imbellished or invented.

The marketing of the book, and the author's interviews, were dishonest, but the book itself was very well done. And nobody's getting their money back.

57 posted on 01/10/2006 9:41:51 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: AppyPappy
They (women) can't smell BS.

Sure they can - it emits a very powerful odor to which they are drawn like catnip. Just evolution in action - women are queued to respond to wide range of emotions and group dynamics. No big deal, really; marketers target these characteristics in the same exact way as they use sexual imagery for males.

What I can't figure out is why the SG thinks this should be a topic of some breathless expose'. The media world is full of non-fiction books/movies that are fictional and fictional books/movies that are actually non-fiction (to avoid defamation, etc).

58 posted on 01/10/2006 9:46:27 AM PST by lemura
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To: misterrob
Two more authors wanted for questioning:


59 posted on 01/10/2006 9:47:18 AM PST by SquirrelKing
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To: blaquebyrd

I was unfortunate enough to have a C-section without anesthesia.... a root canal sounds like a picnic


60 posted on 01/10/2006 9:52:41 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: blaquebyrd
I never bought the whole root canal without any anesthesia or pain medication. No one could endure that totally sober.

Dude, you need to change your dentist. I heard root canals were terribly painful also and mentioned to my dentist that I really disliked needles and drooling for half a day after the procedure. Two root canals to date without anesthesia, no pain (Well, just twinge or two) and I felt felt great afterwards. It is all the hands, you really need to shop around.

61 posted on 01/10/2006 9:53:30 AM PST by SandwicheGuy
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To: goodnesswins

That's probably why they got along so well.


62 posted on 01/10/2006 9:54:48 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: reagan_fanatic

I have seen the commercial previews but even that couldn't get me excited. AS for watching the whole show - no way! I'd rather sleep or read a good book than waste my time with her issues.


63 posted on 01/10/2006 9:56:13 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: misterrob

Oprah DESERVES to be scammed. She's liberal, she's visible, a lot of naive minds tune into to her and they accept her inane political drivel.

Perhaps some of them will revise their unnecessarily elevated opinion of her.


64 posted on 01/10/2006 9:56:27 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: GaltMeister

Exhibit A - "The Bridges of Madison County"

Exhibits B - ZZZ - The never-ending deluge of weight loss, self-help and New Age books on American best seller lists


65 posted on 01/10/2006 9:59:31 AM PST by Cecily
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To: blaquebyrd

I did, once. 30 years ago. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced, far more painful than the initial car wreck that smashed up the teeth and necessitated the root canal in the first place.


66 posted on 01/10/2006 10:14:58 AM PST by karnage
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To: blaquebyrd

I'd like a dentist to confirm, but I believe if the root is completely dead, the procedure can be performed without anesthesia.


67 posted on 01/10/2006 10:23:20 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: Calico Cat
And men can smell BS when it's coming from another guy, but not when it's a woman doing it.

Don't kid yourself..
Men think everything another guy says is BS, regardless..
As for women, they know it's BS, but they "want to believe"...

68 posted on 01/10/2006 10:24:24 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Calico Cat

"And men can smell BS when it's coming from another guy, but not when it's a woman doing it."
Not true. From Day One, I smelled BS all over my soon-to-be-ex-daughter-in-law. Unfortunately, my son didn't have as keen a nose as I. Nor did he have ears to hear. Now, he has Hell to pay. And pay, and pay, and pay...


69 posted on 01/10/2006 10:39:16 AM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: misterrob
Oprah must be pissed!!!!
Yeah, but will she cop to being conned? I doubt it. Oprah is all about conning the welfare mothers and other ditzes that form the bulk of her audience with a whole bilge load of emotional horseflop.
70 posted on 01/10/2006 10:44:30 AM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: subterfuge
"The Japanese guy who lied about his research, now this."

Correction: The KOREAN guy . . .

71 posted on 01/10/2006 11:24:20 AM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Oprah did a show on the subject of "Being on the Down Low" once. It was a means for a man to not only deny his own homosexuality but to make the issue of being gay a racial issue.

What a joke!!!!!!


72 posted on 01/10/2006 11:32:08 AM PST by misterrob (Democrats, The Party of Treason)
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To: Drammach

Men are BS artists....

It's what makes us charming. A women has to decide if she's willing to buy what we are selling.

:-)


73 posted on 01/10/2006 11:34:03 AM PST by misterrob (Democrats, The Party of Treason)
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To: misterrob
I haven't read the book, so I can't comment on that.

But, I happen to know someone who was in and out of county jails for several years, was in two mental hospitals, and spent two years in prison before getting sober and starting a wholesome life with a wife and children and a steady job.

Perhaps he needs to write his own book.

74 posted on 01/10/2006 11:41:35 AM PST by TravisBickle (The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
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To: gridlock
Anybody who believes the stories of an addict who does not accept the principles of AA has only himself to blame. Frankly I cannot see what all the fuss is about with this guy, even if all the stories were true. But they are obviously self-aggrandizing bullsh!t. How anybody could read five pages and not figure that out is beyond my understanding.

I actually saw a bit of his appearance on Oprah when I was at the gym. I thought he enjoyed recounting his screwup stories a little too much. He seemed strangely proud of them. And now it turns out he's proud of his lies.

And from what I've read about the book, it's astonishing to me that anybody would believe these stories in the first place. They're not even halfway credible, particularly the nonsense about the girlfriend he met in rehab who killed herself because she couldn't wait 12 more hours to see him. Gimme a break.

75 posted on 01/10/2006 11:46:09 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: misterrob

Sounds like a lot of BS to me.. ;oD


76 posted on 01/10/2006 12:04:53 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Calico Cat

when was the last time you watched? Seriously.


77 posted on 01/10/2006 12:09:08 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: nmh

That is the dumbest, most ignorant response I've read on FR, and that's saying alot.


78 posted on 01/10/2006 12:10:18 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: jackibutterfly
Correction: The KOREAN guy . . ."

Thanks for that, jack. No offense meant to anyone.

79 posted on 01/10/2006 12:15:32 PM PST by subterfuge (The Democrat party--hating American ideals for 60 years.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

One Pentecostal minister kept thrilling his congregation about stories of his evil life as a druggie, etc. Later I heard how haggard he looked because of his hard work. Still later his wife presented the board with a detective's report about all the affairs he was having in the congregation. So much for charisma!

Clinton's election and re-election proved that America can support bums and even love them. I would call him a criminal, but that is too nice for him and Lady Macbeth.


80 posted on 01/10/2006 1:05:32 PM PST by sine_nomine (Every baby is a blessing from God, from the moment of conception.)
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To: misterrob
OKRA,
Say it ain't so . . . . . . .
81 posted on 01/10/2006 1:09:25 PM PST by DeaconRed (IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: subterfuge
I thought the same thing until I read the linked story. If you have the time, click on the link and read the whole article at the Smoking Gun. Not just the excerpt here. Pretty strong case for there being major deception. Pretty disgusting.

A_R

82 posted on 01/10/2006 3:33:09 PM PST by arkady_renko
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To: misterrob
I HATE MYSELF
a white male's account of 15 years
of annual sensitivity training

83 posted on 01/10/2006 3:43:40 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Hildy

That is the dumbest, most ignorant response I've read on FR, and that's saying alot.





I take that as a personal challenge!


Cow dung in moonlight ain't cowbells alright! More cowbell! Books with cowbell! More cowbell fancy boy books!


84 posted on 01/10/2006 3:50:07 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: misterrob

Never heard of this guy.

'Course, I don't have TV (thank God)!


85 posted on 01/10/2006 3:50:47 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: frogjerk
Well, MacBeth, Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, Moby Dick, Pride and Prejudice, Absalom! Absalom!, War and Peace...shall I go on?
86 posted on 01/10/2006 5:28:48 PM PST by Savage Beast (Why George W. Bush is a Great President in five words or less: 9/11 was never repeated.)
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To: Savage Beast
Well, MacBeth, Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, Moby Dick, Pride and Prejudice, Absalom! Absalom!, War and Peace...shall I go on?

These are non-fiction?

87 posted on 01/11/2006 6:06:12 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: frogjerk

The first four are part fiction, part fact.


88 posted on 01/11/2006 8:34:20 AM PST by Savage Beast (Why George W. Bush is a Great President in five words or less: 9/11 was never repeated.)
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To: Savage Beast
The first four are part fiction, part fact.

Part Fiction + part Fact = Fiction

89 posted on 01/11/2006 8:40:06 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: frogjerk

Precisely. Just stick Frey's book on the other shelf. It still packs a wallop.


90 posted on 01/11/2006 8:59:41 AM PST by Savage Beast (Why George W. Bush is a Great President in five words or less: 9/11 was never repeated.)
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To: Hildy

Boy, I'm late getting back to you...but the last time I watched an "Oprah" show was around 1988 or so. Can't stand her or her silly audience.


91 posted on 01/11/2006 5:30:49 PM PST by Calico Cat
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To: EnquiringMind; blaquebyrd
I'd like a dentist to confirm, but I believe if the root is completely dead, the procedure can be performed without anesthesia.

It can. I was horrified when my dentist suggested it, but there was no pain, just the noise of the drill.

92 posted on 01/12/2006 1:30:23 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: NYCVirago
I actually saw a bit of his appearance on Oprah when I was at the gym. I thought he enjoyed recounting his screwup stories a little too much. He seemed strangely proud of them. And now it turns out he's proud of his lies.

The hallmark skills of a substance abuser is lying to and manipulating others. I have seen too many who hang on to this part of their life even after giving up the substance abuse.

Your life ain't straight if hang on to the lie and the con. Oprah and this goof display similar traits (Oprah with a much smoother delivery).

93 posted on 01/15/2006 2:46:13 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: misterrob

Why would I want to read a book like this in the first place? Ick.


94 posted on 01/15/2006 2:48:17 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Savage Beast

It is sold as a non-fiction biography......rme, which makes the guy a liar not a fiction author. gees. And Oprah still recommends it? She's been had.


95 posted on 01/15/2006 2:55:17 PM PST by tioga (Speaking out from the god-forsaken frozen tundra of the Hildebeast.)
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To: goresalooza

If Oprah recommends it it is usually some depressing drivel I wouldn't enjoy.


96 posted on 01/15/2006 2:59:28 PM PST by tioga (Speaking out from the god-forsaken frozen tundra of the Hildebeast.)
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To: EnquiringMind

they kept telling me that and I kept telling them it hurt like hell........when I jumped in the chair in pain for the second time he believed me.


97 posted on 01/15/2006 3:03:54 PM PST by tioga (Speaking out from the god-forsaken frozen tundra of the Hildebeast.)
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