The Real Reason For The Iraq War

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html#p2 ^ | January 2003 | William Clark

[pissant]

Good grief. He's a windbag...and mostly wrong.

[Froufrou]

"When oil is denominated in dollars through US state action and the dollar is a fiat currency, the US essentially owns the world's oil for free."


Is it just me, or do any of you FReepers see how this is the antithesis of 'war for oil?'

[Froufrou]

Please, enlighten me. I never had the benefit of studying economics...

[taxed2death]

wow

[mnehring]

Is it just me, or do any of you FReepers see how this is the antithesis of 'war for oil?'

Much of the article is off or oversimplifies the nature of the global economy, but this point is true.

[McGruff]

do any of you FReepers...

Admitting you're not one of us are we?

[Froufrou]

No, any of 'you FReepers besides myself.'

I am no troll, McGruff. I was looking for a way to debunk Liberal rants about 'war for oil.'

[garyhope]

Silly me, I always thought the war was about 9/11 and that the Islamofascists are insane and want to murder all of Western civilization and me personally.

[Froufrou]

I can see how a case can be made for his oversimplifying global economy - and I really disliked a piece I found by a guy named Dixon about the 'globalisation' of the world.

But, I hope what you're saying is that we had no need to go to war for oil because of the dollar being converted to 'fiat currency' [by Nixon circa 1973] -- ???

[50sDad]

It's the Bilderburgers. Well, them and the Trilaterial c Commission.

[atomicpossum]

When oil is denominated in dollars through US state action and the dollar is a fiat currency, the US essentially owns the world's oil for free.

I'm waiting for that to show up at the pump.

[Froufrou]

Me, too. And I was sick and tired of liberals telling me about Bush's lies.

I don't think you can take economics out of war. Do you?

[TheForceOfOne]

That website ratical.org is located in San Francisco.

[pissant]

Would be happy to cut this thing to shreds if I had time. But the entire theory that this is a war for oil is ludicous. We could have more easily made Saddam an ally, not spent 100s of billions on the war, and had access (via dollars) to Iraq's reserves. This guy has about 5 conspiracy theories rolled into this piece. And not a single one is true.

Re-read the article and you will note the left leaning bias, despite the attempt to sound scholarly. And I recall no time in the last 30 years where a leftist comes anywhere near the truth.

[Froufrou]

Yeah, but remember that OPEC still sets the prices.

[Froufrou]

Oh, not the dreaded zot! I thought this was an honest presentation! Evidently, the truth is not to be had via the blogosphere...?

Someone lead me out of the henhouse, my feathers are gettin' plucked!

[rlmorel]

Eeek! Not to say the words "Trilateral Commission"! Ack! I just said it!

[pissant]

However, in both the pre and post 9/11 intervals, the `America first' policies of the Bush administration, with its unwillingness to honor International Treaties, along with their aggressive militarisation of foreign policy has significantly damaged our reputation abroad. Following 9/11, it appears that President Bush's `warmongering rhetoric' has created global tensions -- as we are now viewed as a belligerent superpower willing to apply unilateral military force without U.N. approval. Moreover, this administrations failure to actively engage in negotiations regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is unfortunate. Lamentably, the tremendous amount of international sympathy we witnessed in the immediate aftermath of the September 11th tragedy has been replaced with fear and anger at our government. This administration's bellicosity has changed the worldview, and `anti-Americanism' is proliferating even among our closest allies.

Sounds exactly like Cindy Sheehan. Think about it.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Yeah, but remember that OPEC still sets the prices.

No, they attempt to set the production of their members. Demand, and the output of other producers also effect the price of oil.