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Young Marine Blasts Rep. Murtha at Town Hall Meeting (Not Marine, Soldier)
The Post Chronicle ^ | 1/14/06 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 01/14/2006 7:35:58 AM PST by RepublicNewbie

During a Town Hall meeting earlier this week Democrat Congressmen John Murtha (PA) and Jim Moran (VA) touted their call for a withdrawal from Iraq, an unexpected turn of events occurred.

Moran and Murtha continued the anti-war diatribes which included their relating talks they've had with military officers and rank-and-file troops in Iraq. Murtha has said the military is broken, morale within the ranks is poor, we need to pullout immediately, and other defeatist rantings.

Murtha had just finished his presentation during the Virginia townhall meeting, in which he added that he feared a slow withdrawal may give people the impression the US achieved victory (God forbid Americans think we're victorious), when he opened the meeting for a question and answer session.

At that point a man stood and spoke:

"Yes sir my name is Mark Seavey and I just want to thank you for coming up here. Until about a month ago I was Sergeant Mark Seavey infantry squad leader, I returned from Afghanistan. My question to you, (applause)

"Like yourself I dropped out of college two years ago to volunteer to go to Afghanistan, and I went and I came back. If I didn't have a herniated disk now I would volunteer to go to Iraq in a second with my troops, three of which have already volunteered to go to Iraq. I keep hearing you say how you talk to the troops and the troops are demoralized, and I really resent that characterization. (applause) The morale of the troops that I talk to is phenomenal, which is why my troops are volunteering to go back, despite the hardships they had to endure in Afghanistan.

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Marine giving it back to Murtha in today's Post Chronicle
1 posted on 01/14/2006 7:35:59 AM PST by RepublicNewbie
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To: RepublicNewbie
The video of this exchange is available on Michelle Malkin's site. The most unbelievable thing is what Murtha and Moran do after the marine finishes.

Michelle Malkin

2 posted on 01/14/2006 7:44:59 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: RepublicNewbie

That whole free-speech thing can be a really double edged sword, huh Martha.


3 posted on 01/14/2006 7:45:13 AM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border needs to be a MAJOR issue in 2006 and 2008)
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To: RepublicNewbie

Hmmm... I find it very interesting that the documentation for Murtha's "two purple hearts" seems to be elusive. Shades of John Kerry, indeed.

This will be interesting to follow up. Are there any of Murtha's old comrades who can tell us of his service?


4 posted on 01/14/2006 7:47:55 AM PST by marktwain
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To: SirChas

SirChas, check out this video. Man, those Marines.

Truth to power.


6 posted on 01/14/2006 7:49:26 AM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border needs to be a MAJOR issue in 2006 and 2008)
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To: RepublicNewbie
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557437/posts
7 posted on 01/14/2006 7:50:46 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: RepublicNewbie

Ummm, conservative as I am...and despising Murtha & his unpatriotic anti-American puting-politics-above-America-and-her-troops liberal idiot fans, this comment was directed at Rep. Moran (the racist un-gentleman representing the Sergeant's district in Arlington, VA.) not Murtha. His comments only said he had not gotten a thank you or acknowlegement for his service from Congress.

Does Murtha send out thank you notes to servicemen? Probably not, but this exchange had nothing to do with Murtha.


8 posted on 01/14/2006 7:50:57 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: RepublicNewbie
"Marine giving it back to Murtha in today's Post Chronicle"

If they follow the Clinton playbook, they will try to harm this young man's future. It will be worth watching.
9 posted on 01/14/2006 7:51:31 AM PST by marktwain
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To: RepublicNewbie

I'm wondering why there aren't more like Seavey who are willing to slap down these folks?


10 posted on 01/14/2006 7:52:30 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: RepublicNewbie
"Marine giving it back to Murtha in today's Post Chronicle"

If they follow the Clinton playbook, they will try to harm this young man's future. It will be worth watching.
11 posted on 01/14/2006 7:52:33 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Mighty Eighth

Exactly. He shames the uniform he once wore. He's just an old fart enjoying the spotlight.


12 posted on 01/14/2006 7:52:39 AM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: RepublicNewbie

Does anybody else think that Murtha *looks* like an evil scumbag? That if you saw him in the supermarket or Sears, not knowing who he was, you'd say to yourself, "That guy looks like an evil scumbag?"


13 posted on 01/14/2006 7:52:44 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: RepublicNewbie
I wish I could talk to Murtha myself, just to drive this point home. I've done two tours in Iraq, with to different units, and I have a possible third tour pending. Out of the two units I deployed with (the first for the invasion the second between '04 and '05) THE ENTIRE TWO UNITS, I found only one dissenter. We all hate it, being away from our families, not being able to come and go as we please, but our moral is definitely not low. We know that what we have done and what we are doing is the right thing. We are reaffirmed every time we meet an Iraqi citizen who hugs us, or shakes our hand, or runs to the edge of the road to wave and smile as we drive by. We are reaffirmed when we meet Iraqi citizens (at the Iraqi tomb of the unknown for example) that expresses their joy at the freedom they have now to be able to walk up to and pay tribute at national monuments, a freedom they were forever denied.

Iraq sucks, but we know what we do is right, and we are proud to do it.
14 posted on 01/14/2006 7:53:28 AM PST by raynearhood ("America is too great for small dreams." - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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To: AnalogReigns
His comments only said he had not gotten a thank you or acknowledgment for his service from Congress.

I think you need to watch the WHOLE video. Your characterization is not representative of the soldier's comments.

15 posted on 01/14/2006 7:53:55 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: RepublicNewbie

"I keep hearing you say how you talk to the troops and the troops are demoralized, and I really resent that characterization."

Fire for effect, Sir. God bless you.


(I have not served. My tagline honors my son and my cousin.)


16 posted on 01/14/2006 7:56:22 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: tsmith130

"The most unbelievable thing is what Murtha and Moran do after the marine finishes."

Moran: "Well, it wasn't in the form of question, so let's ignore that it ever happened."

What the hell is this, Jeopardy.


17 posted on 01/14/2006 7:58:14 AM PST by raynearhood ("America is too great for small dreams." - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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To: raynearhood
and we are proud to do it.

And we're proud of you for doing it!

Thanks for your service!

18 posted on 01/14/2006 7:59:59 AM PST by andyandval
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To: raynearhood

Thank You sir for your service.

God Bless you and all who are serving honorably in an honorable mission.

Thanks


19 posted on 01/14/2006 8:00:50 AM PST by A message
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To: tsmith130

I just listened to the whole thing again, and yes he does mention the morale of the troops is very high (contra Murtha and the DemocRats claims), still his comments were directed at Moran, not Murtha (though yes, Murtha was on the panel).

I agree that all the libs complaints are anti-American, trying to put Bush down for their own politics, however still, this particular exchange was not toward Murtha, it was toward (the even scummier) Moran.

I used to be a constituent of Moran, so I do know the guy is a total jerk & fraud and racist womanizer too.


20 posted on 01/14/2006 8:01:26 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: raynearhood

Vets ought to show up at every town hall either of these two guys appear at.

How does a left winger like Moran get elected in N. VA. I thought the place was populated by a bunch of military, contractors, and federal gov't types.


21 posted on 01/14/2006 8:02:04 AM PST by blackdiamondracer
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To: raynearhood

Thank you, sir.


22 posted on 01/14/2006 8:04:21 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mighty Eighth
" could care less if Murtha was once a war hero who wore the uniform "

You COULDN'T care less. Sheesh, man, say what you mean, not the opposite.

23 posted on 01/14/2006 8:04:23 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Honk if you voted for algore...so I can point at you and laugh.)
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To: Mighty Eighth
Boy that reference to Benedict Arnold was right on target.

Thanks.

24 posted on 01/14/2006 8:06:00 AM PST by pointsal
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To: RepublicNewbie
Once a solder dons his "Civies" he becomes just a citizen again.

This young man showed he was a Loyal solder and now a Loyal citizen. The best of luck to you in your civilian life sir, you deserve it by setting the record straight against Murtha's (and the Dem's) hatred again the commander in Chief.
25 posted on 01/14/2006 8:06:11 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: raynearhood

Many thanks from my family to yours for your service. I can only say that I observe myself many more people supporting the cause, supporting our fighting men and women, and supporting the rights of Iraqis. God Bless keep you all safe.


26 posted on 01/14/2006 8:06:25 AM PST by vharlow (http://www.vventures.net)
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To: RepublicNewbie
in which he added that he feared a slow withdrawal may give people the impression the US achieved victory...

The US has achieved victory, Murtha, you idiot. People are voting for their leaders in Afghanistan and Iraq. Just kills you, doesn't it?

And the US will get Iraq settled down, as you well know. It's why you want the troops out, isn't it you moron? It's the only way the US can fail in this as you so bady desire.

Give it a rest, Murtha.

27 posted on 01/14/2006 8:08:36 AM PST by Allegra (I'm Wearing New Socks!)
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To: RepublicNewbie
Just curious, why did you add the (not Marine, Soldier) in the title.
28 posted on 01/14/2006 8:13:32 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: AnalogReigns
"Probably not, but this exchange had nothing to do with Murtha."

Bull, it had to do with both Congressmen who were sitting together on the dais. The last comments were directed at Moran specifically, but since Murtha was sitting next to Moran and they both are on the same page, the slam hit both congressmen.
29 posted on 01/14/2006 8:15:06 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: blackdiamondracer
How does a left winger like Moran get elected in N. VA. I thought the place was populated by a bunch of military, contractors, and federal gov't types.

Northern Virginia is a Democrat hellhole. We Down South wish they'd secede.

30 posted on 01/14/2006 8:15:43 AM PST by nina0113
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To: AnalogReigns
this exchange had nothing to do with Murtha

It had everything to do with Murtha. He's the one who made the disparaging comments in Congress about the troops' morale etc. Where have you been?

The only part of his comments concerning Moran were the ones about troops from his home state. That was an aside to his objections to Murtha's rant about the military being "broken".

Had Moran not even been there, he was still on target about Murtha.

31 posted on 01/14/2006 8:17:43 AM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: marktwain
Herer is the link on Murtha's undeserved purple hearts in case anyone missed it.

Murtha has his own skeletons starting to rattle around in the closet.

This seems to run in Democrats.

32 posted on 01/14/2006 8:21:27 AM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: Mighty Eighth
And is Murtha following the Creed of being a Marine ?
34 posted on 01/14/2006 8:25:04 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: AnalogReigns
"this exchange had nothing to do with Murtha."


"I don’t know who you two were talking to, but the moral of the troops is very high" said Sgt. Mark Seavey to Congressman Murtha and Congressman Moran.
35 posted on 01/14/2006 8:26:27 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Mighty Eighth
Not only was Benedict Arnold a soldier, but, also a wounded soldier. He was a brave and smart leader. The problem was he got kicked in the guts by Congress (sound surprising?) Murtha is IN Congress committing what amounts to treason.

If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress.......Congress! Mighty Eighth...have you been to the Museum here in Savannah?
36 posted on 01/14/2006 8:27:39 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: capt. norm
Here is the link on Murtha's undeserved purple hearts in case anyone missed it.

Ooops, forgot to put in the link, Here it is:

http://www.politicspa.com/FEATURES/baileylttomurtha.htm

37 posted on 01/14/2006 8:28:27 AM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: AnalogReigns

No, it had EVERYTHING to do with Murtha, who has REPEATEDLY commented on the "morale of the troops" being low, and that was specifically what this ex-soldier/ex-Marine was addressing.


38 posted on 01/14/2006 8:29:06 AM PST by LS
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To: tsmith130
The most unbelievable thing is what Murtha and Moran do after the marine finishes.

saw it on fox news. Didn't see Murtha or Moron's response. What did they do?

40 posted on 01/14/2006 8:30:14 AM PST by OldCorps
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To: RepublicNewbie

Ain't nothing in this world as gratifying as a NEW old wardog taking a broken, corrupted old wardog to the woodshed.

Semper Fi, Sgt Mark Seavey.


41 posted on 01/14/2006 8:31:17 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: raynearhood

Thank You for your service to our country.


42 posted on 01/14/2006 8:31:47 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: OldCorps
Didn't see Murtha or Moron's response

That's my point...they didn't do or say anything. Moran mumbled something about Seavey making a 'statement' rather than posing a question and they immediately went to call on someone else. It was if Seavey hadn't even spoken to them.

43 posted on 01/14/2006 8:34:52 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: Mighty Eighth
I too had have a friend that was a marine and then in the Guard (he came back last year from Baghdad, thank God)).

Even while serving in the Army national guard, all the Ex-marines there stated "Once a Marine, always a Marine".
44 posted on 01/14/2006 8:34:52 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: Marine Inspector

Probably because Seavey served in the Army not the Marine Corps.


46 posted on 01/14/2006 8:37:01 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: capt. norm

First, "A Hero NEVER Brags about His Deeds" Second, there is two classes of Bronze Stars. One is for being in a tough situation and the other is for Valor, the star for valor has a raised V in the middle of the star. And lastly, I've met and served under some full birds that were complete assholes and others that were STRAC.


47 posted on 01/14/2006 8:37:48 AM PST by Gaelic
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To: raynearhood

I, too, want to take this opportunity to thank you for your service. I love fellow "sheepdogs."
Here is an excerpt from Thomas P.M. Barnett that I think gives my reason for our actions in Iraq. (Conveys my sentiments)
"We were attacked three years ago, without warning or predicate event. The attack was not a gesture of heroic resistance nor the offshoot of some bright utopian resolve, but the very flower of a movement that delights in the potential for martyrdom expressed in the squalls of the newly born. It is a movement that is about death?that honors death, that loves death, that fetishizes death, that worships death, that seeks to accomplish death wherever it can, on a scale both intimate and global?and if it does not warrant the expenditure of what the self-important have taken to calling ?blood and treasure,? then what does? Slavery? Fascism? Genocide? Let?s not flatter ourselves. If we do not find it within ourselves to identify the terrorism inspired by radical Islam as an unequivocal evil?and to pronounce ourselves morally superior to it?then we have lost the ability to identify any evil at all, and our democracy is not only diminished, it dissolves into the meaninglessness of privilege."


48 posted on 01/14/2006 8:39:27 AM PST by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006)
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To: RepublicNewbie; Laurita; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; OneLoyalAmerican; ...

Marine NOT afraid to not be "PC" Ping!

Young Marine Blasts Rep. Murtha at Town Hall Meeting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558047/posts

"Yes sir my name is Mark Seavey and I just want to thank you for coming up here. Until about a month ago I was Sergeant Mark Seavey infantry squad leader, I returned from Afghanistan. My question to you, (applause)

"Like yourself I dropped out of college two years ago to volunteer to go to Afghanistan, and I went and I came back. If I didn't have a herniated disk now I would volunteer to go to Iraq in a second with my troops, three of which have already volunteered to go to Iraq. I keep hearing you say how you talk to the troops and the troops are demoralized, and I really resent that characterization. (applause) The morale of the troops that I talk to is phenomenal, which is why my troops are volunteering to go back, despite the hardships they had to endure in Afghanistan."

Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557630/posts

Too bad the "Move on FReepers" don't have a clue!



49 posted on 01/14/2006 8:41:17 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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OK; and how do you know he served in the Army and not the Marines.

He never states it in his speech and it does not state it in the article.


50 posted on 01/14/2006 8:41:45 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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