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Voice of controversy [ANN COULTER begins YAF tour @ Loyola L.A.: Coming soon to a college near YOU!]
Los Angeles LOYOLAN ^ | 11/30/05 | Rachel Jones

Posted on 01/18/2006 6:00:34 PM PST by RonDog

From www.laloyolan.com:

Voice of controversy

Right-wing speaker will come to campus in January

By: Rachel Jones

Issue date: 11/30/05 Section: News



LMU will soon welcome the voice behind arguably the most feisty Barbie doll ever made. This January political commentator and outspoken conservative Ann Coulter will speak on campus in the Loyolan's fourth annual First Amendment Week.

Coulter signed on to speak last Wednesday, Nov. 23. First Amendment Week will be held Jan. 16 to 19, with Coulter speaking in Burns Back Court on Jan. 19 at 7:30 p.m. The Loyolan is in the process of recruiting a liberal speaker for the same event.

Dr. Evan Gerstmann, the chair of the Political Science Department, spoke at the Loyolan's inaugural First Amendment Week in 2003.

"The First Amendment is at the core of any university's mission. Without the right to speak one's mind openly and to hear unfamiliar ideas, we don't learn and grow as people."

Gerstmann described Coulter as a "polarizing figure."

"I view her as having a detrimental impact on public discourse," he said. "She is often dishonest in her rhetoric and chooses to attack opposing ideas in the most extreme terms rather than look for common ground."

Loyolan Managing Editor Natalie Nordseth arranged Coulter's visit.

"We chose Ann Coulter because we knew she'd get people's attention," she said. "Coulter's speech will help remind the student body what the First Amendment allows, and I hope that it will encourage students to really think about their rights."

Coulter has written four New York Times Booklist bestsellers, most recently "How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)." Coulter currently writes a weekly column for Universal Press Syndicate. She has made guest appearances on a variety of television shows, from "Wolf Blitzer Reports" to "The O'Reilly Factor," and has been profiled in Harper's Bazaar and Elle magazines.

Tres Lillard, a junior communications major, is a big fan of Coulter. "I'm excited," Lillard said. "She's a blast to watch, she's really witty…she's become the big mouth for the Republican Party, which is something we haven't had for a while."

Coulter has a reputation for being a divisive public speaker. In October 2004, two University of Arizona students threw pies at Coulter while she was giving a speech in front of 2,500 people at the university. The men missed Coulter, but were arrested and spent the night in the Pima County Jail. According to the Daily Wildcat student newspaper, a student group known as "Al Pieda" claimed responsibility.

In a column after the incident, Coulter said, "Fortunately for me, liberals not only argue like liberals, they also throw like girls."

"Ann Coulter will probably offend many students," said Loyolan Editor in Chief Stephen A. Murphy. "But that's OK. This goes beyond liberal versus conservative, this is about our rights as Americans."

Murphy said that the Loyolan's First Amendment Week was made possible due to the "overwhelming success of our business staff" and the "cooperation and support of Student Affairs."

Even some of Coulter's employers have had trouble with her strong words. MSNBC fired Coulter after she told a disabled Vietnam War veteran, "People like you caused us to lose that war." She was also let go from the conservative online magazine National Review in October 2001 when she gave this suggestion on how to deal with Muslim terrorists: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

A letter to readers on the magazine's Web site maintains, "It was Ann who decided to sever her ties with National Review-not the other way around." USA Today hired Coulter in 2004 to provide commentary from the Democratic National Convention in Boston, but later rejected her column, entitled "Spawn of Satan Convention."

Coulter attended Cornell University and University of Michigan Law School, where she received her J.D. and served as an editor of the Michigan Law Review. She lives in New York City.


TOPICS: Announcements; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: Indiana; US: Michigan; US: New York; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; booktour; conservativestudents; coulter; highereducation; talktoaliberal; yaf; youngamericans
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See also, from www.YAF.org:

CALENDAR OF EVENTS  updated 1/12/06
Young America's Foundation reaches thousands of students across America's campuses each year. Click here to see where we've already been. If you would like to attend one of these lecture events, please contact Patrick X. Coyle at 800-USA-1776 for more information.
JANUARY 2006
01/13
01/19
01/24
01/26
01/26
01/28
01/31
Jason Mattera
Ann Coulter
Dinesh D'Souza
Ward Connerly
Ann Coulter
Fred Barnes
Dinesh D'Souza
Revolution '06 Conference, OH
Loyola Marymount University, CA
University of California
Los Angeles, CA
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL
Philander Smith College, AR
Georgetown University, Washington DC
St. John's University, MN
 
FEBRUARY
02/06
02/07
02/9-11
02/10
02/15
02/16
02/16
02/16
02/16
02/17
02/17-18
02/19-26
02/21
02/22

02/22
02/23
 
Reginald Jones
Fred Barnes
Conservative Political Action Conference
Ann Coulter
Michelle Malkin
Scott Rutter
Ann Coulter
Deroy Murdock
Mike Adams
Scott Rutter
Young America's Foundation's President's Club
Young America's Foundation's Winter Cruise

Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter

John Krenson
Ann Coulter
Bowdoin College, ME
SUNY - Cortland, NY
Washington, D.C.
George Washington University, Washington, D.C.
Oberlin College, OH
Belhaven College, MS
Purdue University, IN
Hobart & William Smith Colleges, NY
Penn State University, PA
Chamberlain Hunt Military Academy, MS
Florida
Eastern Caribbean
Denison University, OH
Western Michigan University, MI

SUNY - Brockport, NY
Indiana University, IN
MARCH
03/01
03/01
03/02
03/09
03/13
03/22
03/22
03/23
03/28
 
Dinesh D'Souza and Michelle Malkin
Dinesh D'Souza
Star Parker
David Horowitz
Dinesh D'Souza
Ken Starr
Christian Hoff Sommers
Ben Stein
Roy Moore
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO
Air Force Academy, CO
Ohio University, OH
Western New England College, MA
Manchester College, IN
Bates College, ME
Hobart and William Smith Colleges, NY
Canisius College, NY
University of the Cumberlands, KY
APRIL

04/05
04/05
04/06
04/11
04/18
04/20-22
04/27
 

Kate Obenshain Griffin
Reginald Jones
Deena Burnett
Rich Lowry
David Horowitz
Rawhide Circle at Opryland
Zell Miller
 
Bates College, ME
Noble and Greenough School, MA
University of Minnesota, MN
Truman State University, MO
Marietta College, OH
Nashville, TN
Harding University, AR
 
MAY
05/05-07 Club 100 Reagan Ranch Retreat Santa Barbara, CA
JUNE
06/29-07/02 National High School Leadership Conference Washington, DC
JULY
07/31-08/05 National Conservative Student Conference Washington, DC
   This schedule is subject to change.

1 posted on 01/18/2006 6:00:37 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Doctor Raoul; kristinn; Angelwood; BillF; sauropod; tgslTakoma
Ann Coulter
02/10

George Washington University, Washington, D.C.
Ping!
2 posted on 01/18/2006 6:03:45 PM PST by RonDog
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To: feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; gc4nra; Howie; ...
Here is a MORE RECENT article about tomorrow's event...
...with a much longer TITLE (which did not fit into the thread title that I had carefully crafted for this thread)...
...from www.laloyolan.com:

First Amendment Week brings prominent voices

The week of activities aims to raise awareness on campus.

By: Rachel Jones

Issue date: 1/18/06 Section: News


The wait is over. Students longing to hear the voices of two controversial political commentators will have their chance tomorrow when Republican Ann Coulter and Democrat James Carville speak on campus as part of the Loyolan's fourth annual First Amendment Week.

First Amendment Week kicked off yesterday with an event in the Lair during convocation hour that featured a video of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech. Today at 5 p.m., the Loyolan will host an open forum in the Living Room to discuss the newspaper's strengths and weaknesses.

?"We wanted students to have the opportunity to criticize the newspaper so that we can continue to improve," said Stephen A. Murphy, the Loyolan's editor in chief. "This is everyone's newspaper, so we want to hear as much input as possible."

Journalists have long valued the First Amendment, which among other things forbids the United States government from infringing on freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

First Amendment Week was first held during the 2002-2003 school year and was not without controversy. Larry Flynt, the founder of Hustler magazine and head of Larry Flynt Publications, had accepted an invitation from the Loyolan to discuss freedom of speech. In a move that many saw as ironic, the administration barred Flynt from coming to campus, saying his message was not in line with the university's mission. The decision marked the first time Flynt had ever been denied the opportunity to speak at a university.

The main event this week will feature speeches by Coulter and Carville. It will be held tomorrow night at 6 p.m. in Burns Back Court. For more information on the two speakers, see the special First Amendment Week insert in this week's issue.


3 posted on 01/18/2006 6:07:00 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

We have the doll. My granddaughter loves it.


4 posted on 01/18/2006 6:09:21 PM PST by Mercat (sometimes God calms the storm, sometimes he lets the storm rage and calms the child)
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To: Mears

bump


5 posted on 01/18/2006 6:12:06 PM PST by Mears (j)
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To: RonDog
Young America's Foundation reaches thousands of students across America's campuses each year...
The YAFers also have an AMAZING photograph of our favorite conservative "poster girl" for sale here:


The Beauty of Conservatism

6 posted on 01/18/2006 6:14:48 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Man I wish I could get to Loyola tomorrow night to see that!

AC will hand Carville his lunch! LMAO


7 posted on 01/18/2006 6:17:23 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: RonDog
Why Ann Coulter? If you take out the polemical rhetorical barbs, her columns are nothing more than Republican talking points.

I don't get what the fascination is with her. She's certainly not the most articulate spokesman the conservatives have. I've seen her "debate" Janet Reno - and Janet Reno cleaned the floor with her! Janet Reno!

8 posted on 01/18/2006 6:21:43 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: RonDog

This story involves another Jesuit - supposedly "Catholic" - school. I fully expect them to embarass themselves.


9 posted on 01/18/2006 6:21:48 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: RonDog
LMU will soon welcome the voice behind arguably the most feisty Barbie doll ever made.

Rachel sounds like a sexist.

10 posted on 01/18/2006 6:22:42 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: RonDog
To Rachel Jones:

"LMU will soon welcome the voice behind arguably the most feisty Barbie doll ever made."

Catty, bitchy, blatantly sexist, and self-hating anti-female derogatory comments are not a sign of journalistic expertise...in the real world.
Let me guess Rachel... you are either a liberal and/or a lesbian.
What I don't have to guess about it your intellect.
11 posted on 01/18/2006 6:23:25 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: RonDog

That is a WOW picture of Ann.

How can she look that good and not have at least two children already? LOL


12 posted on 01/18/2006 6:25:58 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RonDog
Gerstmann described Coulter as a "polarizing figure."

"I view her as having a detrimental impact on public discourse," he said. "She is often dishonest in her rhetoric and chooses to attack opposing ideas in the most extreme terms rather than look for common ground."

They way he describes her, you'd think she was Hillary.

13 posted on 01/18/2006 6:27:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma; ...
KEYWORDS: ANNCOULTER; BOOKTOUR; CONSERVATIVESTUDENTS; COULTER; HIGHEREDUCATION; TALKTOALIBERAL; YAF
Actually, Ann's college appearances this spring seem to be a part of her PRE-book tour. :o)

See also, from www.amazon.com:

The New Ann Coulter (Hardcover)
by Ann Coulter
Availability: This title will be released on June 6, 2006.
You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.

Product Details

  • Hardcover: 384 pages
  • Publisher: Crown Forum (June 6, 2006)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN: 1400054206

14 posted on 01/18/2006 6:28:27 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
"We chose Ann Coulter because we knew she'd get people's attention," she (Loyolan Managing Editor Natalie Nordseth) said. "Coulter's speech will help remind the student body what the First Amendment allows, and I hope that it will encourage students to really think about their rights."

This sounds like condescending pandering. Oh, thank you, Mz. Nordseth for allowing us to kiss your @ss.

I wonder if Ms. Coulter knows she's being treated like a "token conservative".

15 posted on 01/18/2006 6:28:43 PM PST by manwiththehands (The only politician worse than a crooked democRat is a crooked Republican.)
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To: kellynla
Man I wish I could get to Loyola tomorrow night to see that!
Actually, tomorrow's event is CLOSED to the general public. :(
LMU IDs will be required at the door.
For ALMOST everybody. :o)

16 posted on 01/18/2006 6:43:47 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Bring food.


17 posted on 01/18/2006 6:45:13 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: RonDog

Some one should make sure Carville takes his medication and rabies shot.


18 posted on 01/18/2006 6:47:31 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: jude24
Why Ann Coulter?

If you take out the polemical rhetorical barbs, her columns are nothing more than Republican talking points.

LOL!

I guess that you missed that little Harriet Miers thing last year. :o)

Karl Rove should recognize LOTS of his GOP "talking points" here:

This is what 'advice and consent' means (Ann Coulter)
wnd.com ^ | October 5, 2005 | Ann Coulter
Posted on 10/05/2005 4:03:47 PM PDT by perfect stranger

I eagerly await the announcement of President Bush's real nominee to the Supreme Court. If the president meant Harriet Miers seriously, I have to assume Bush wants to go back to Crawford and let Dick Cheney run the country.

Unfortunately for Bush, he could nominate his Scottish terrier Barney, and some conservatives would rush to defend him, claiming to be in possession of secret information convincing them that the pooch is a true conservative and listing Barney's many virtues – loyalty, courage, never jumps on the furniture ...

Harriet Miers went to Southern Methodist University Law School, which is not ranked at all by the serious law school reports and ranked No. 52 by US News and World Report. Her greatest legal accomplishment is being the first woman commissioner of the Texas Lottery.

I know conservatives have been trained to hate people who went to elite universities, and generally that's a good rule of thumb. But not when it comes to the Supreme Court.

First, Bush has no right to say "Trust me." He was elected to represent the American people, not to be dictator for eight years. Among the coalitions that elected Bush are people who have been laboring in the trenches for a quarter-century to change the legal order in America. While Bush was still boozing it up in the early '80s, Ed Meese, Antonin Scalia, Robert Bork and all the founders of the Federalist Society began creating a farm team of massive legal talent on the right...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

19 posted on 01/18/2006 7:02:13 PM PST by RonDog
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To: jude24
From your FR homepage..........

Offensive FRmails and emails will be posted on the thread which generated them. In sending a FRmail or email to me, constructive knowledge of this warning and consent to this policy will be assumed.

Any comments I may make on legal issues are my own opinions, and should not be taken as legal counsel. I am not admitted to the bar in any state as of this date. Should you require legal advice, consult an attorney in your home state.

You really need to get over yourself.

20 posted on 01/18/2006 7:11:09 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hdstmf
Some one should make sure Carville takes his medication and rabies shot.
LOL!

Ol' Serpenthead is just PRACTICE for Ann's NEXT appearance in Los Angeles: with Al FrankenFraud.

From www.uj.edu:

2006 Public Lecture Series

 

Monday, January 30
John Edwards
& Newt Gingrich

 

 

Monday, February 27
Colin Powell

 

Monday, March 27
Al Franken
& Ann Coulter

 

Monday, April 24
George Stephanopoulos interviews Wesley Clark, Tom Ridge & Natan Sharansky

 
Tickets go on sale, Monday September 19, 2005 Series Subscription: $225 310 440-1246
7:30pm
at the Gibson Amphitheatre (formerly known as Universal Amphitheatre)

21 posted on 01/18/2006 7:13:56 PM PST by RonDog
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To: hole_n_one
The first is the remnants of a flame war a year ago, where the my mailbox was slammed with offensive emails.

The second one is legal CYA so I can weigh in on legal issues.

22 posted on 01/18/2006 7:19:35 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: manwiththehands
This sounds like condescending pandering.

Oh, thank you, Mz. Nordseth for allowing us to kiss your @ss.

Actually, Natalie Nordseth is one of the GOOD GUYS!
As Managing Editor of the campus newspaper (The Loyolan), she was one of the driving forces behind getting Ann on campus...
...in the face of threatened disclipinary action -- for violating LMU's "hate speech" codes, by inviting Ann.

23 posted on 01/18/2006 7:21:01 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Thanks for the ping, Ron.


24 posted on 01/18/2006 7:47:43 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: jude24

Ann might be arrogant and sarcastic but she's not a mouthpiece for the republican party.I find it refreshing that she refuses to let the PC police intimidate her.


25 posted on 01/18/2006 7:54:34 PM PST by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: Brilliant

Ewwww, that was perfect!


26 posted on 01/18/2006 7:55:42 PM PST by Humidston (Two words: TERM LIMITS!)
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To: RonDog

i go to lmu, and will be attending the speeches tommorow. should be interesting.


27 posted on 01/18/2006 8:02:00 PM PST by rownessarow
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To: BillF
Thanks for the ping, Ron.
De nada. :o)
We look forward to reading about the DC Chapter protecting Ann at GWU next month.

28 posted on 01/18/2006 8:38:29 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog; All

Michelle Malkin coming to Boulder on March 1st... Woo Hoo! I can get my book signed! Thanks for posting this!


29 posted on 01/18/2006 8:42:02 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
You are welcome!
That's what FReepers are for!

30 posted on 01/18/2006 8:47:08 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Human shield time? If we take a pie in the face for Ann, we get to eat the pie, right?


31 posted on 01/18/2006 8:57:49 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: RonDog
"For ALMOST everybody. :o)"

Are you going? Maybe I will see you there?

32 posted on 01/18/2006 9:04:02 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: rownessarow
Please let us all know how it goes. I'm mad it's not for the general public. I'd pay to see Ann.I hope you guys that are lucky enough to attend tomorrow all have Annes back. Gotta watch out for those evil pie throwers.
33 posted on 01/18/2006 9:52:50 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: Bush gal in LA
I hope you guys that are lucky enough to attend tomorrow all have Ann's back.
I understand that Ann now travels with HER OWN (professional) security people....
...but I am very confident that she will have a few AMATEURS in the audience to help protect her, just in case.

34 posted on 01/18/2006 10:01:36 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Bush gal in LA
I'm mad it's not for the general public.

I'd pay to see Ann.

Part of the problem is the SMALL SIZE of the venue that they have chosen for this event -- which only holds FIVE HUNDRED people!

From www.lmu.edu:

Rec Center Back Court-Burns

This facility is located on the 2nd floor of the Burns Recreation Center. This large basketball court can be converted into any set up style desired.
Maximum Capacity 500 (theater style)
Square Feet 6784

Ann's speeches generally attract SEVERAL THOUSAND people.

35 posted on 01/18/2006 10:11:41 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Bush gal in LA
I'd pay to see Ann.
We are working on THAT idea, too. :o)

The problem with Ann's NEXT appearance here in the Los Angeles area (after THIS one)...

...is that you have to buy ALL FOUR parts of that "Speakers Series" -- at $225 per person -- just to see her squash Al Franken like a bug.
See my post #21 - above.
It may be possible to arrange for some ALTERNATIVE way to see Ann in L.A. -- in the not-too-distant future.

36 posted on 01/18/2006 10:21:04 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

BUMP! Great post!


37 posted on 01/18/2006 10:30:18 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sarasmom

How much you wanna bet that this "Rachel Jones" is a fat liberal chic?


38 posted on 01/18/2006 10:32:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: manwiththehands; RonDog
Did you notice how this report about Ann's visit is written in a tone reminiscent of how the ACLU explains itself when it goes to court to defend marches by Illinois Nazis?

"Even Illinois Nazis have the First Amendment right to freedom of speech."
"Even Ann Coulter has the First Amendment right to freedom of speech."

Loyolan Managing Editor Natalie Nordseth arranged Coulter's visit. "We chose Ann Coulter because we knew she'd get people's attention," she said. "Coulter's speech will help remind the student body what the First Amendment allows, and I hope that it will encourage students to really think about their rights."

39 posted on 01/18/2006 10:42:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
How much you wanna bet that this "Rachel Jones" is a fat liberal chic?
You might not want to read TOO MUCH into Rachel's "Barbie" charcterization of Ann.
Even ANN plays with that image -- at times.
Go to www.talkingpresidents.com/products-af-coulter.shtml
Ann HERSELF does the recorded messages that you hear when you push the doll's buttons!
40 posted on 01/18/2006 10:51:29 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Lancey Howard
Or not.

From www.laloyolan.com:

Author Profile

Rachel Jones - News Editor


41 posted on 01/18/2006 10:52:13 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

LMU: Loyola Marymount University. This Jesuit run school had Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble on the basketball team from 87-90.

Paul Westhead was the coach and they hold the NCAA Div 1 record for taking part in the 5 highest scoring games in NCAA history.

This has nothing to do with this post, outside of the school. :)


42 posted on 01/18/2006 10:52:54 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: hole_n_one

You ain't kidding!


(I must develop legalese that says nothing and means nothing to absolutely no one, because if I say it, then it must be so!) lol


43 posted on 01/18/2006 11:00:08 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: jude24
I don't get what the fascination is with her.

Not a lot conservatives are willing stand on stage at leftist campuses. Ann has the courage to enter these liberal lion dens and speak the truth. Would you be brave enough to do that?

44 posted on 01/18/2006 11:05:58 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: RonDog

Yeah, okay, Rachel does look pretty good!

And I suppose her report is about as fair as Ann's ever going to get in a college rag. Still, the out-of-context quotes and Rachel's attacking the story from the angle that Ann is "offensive" bothers me a little.

But hey, Ann can definitely take care of herself and I won't lose any sleep! I'm already looking forward to the after action reports.

Regards,
LH


45 posted on 01/18/2006 11:39:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RonDog
Hey RonDog, do you know if any of these debates are on CSPAN? I'd love to watch Newt kick the snot out of the Breck boy.
46 posted on 01/19/2006 12:05:59 AM PST by Post5203
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To: rownessarow

Have a good time, take notes, and ping me?!


47 posted on 01/19/2006 5:47:26 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Post5203
Hey RonDog, do you know if any of these debates are on CSPAN?

I'd love to watch Newt kick the snot out of the Breck boy.

Not sure.
I do know, however, that Ann's speech at Loyola Marymount tonight will NOT be on C-SPAN.

48 posted on 01/19/2006 5:57:25 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Even some of Coulter's employers have had trouble with her strong words. MSNBC fired Coulter after she told a disabled Vietnam War veteran, "People like you caused us to lose that war."

Good Grief! I didn't see or hear of this, but let me guess. The disabled veteran was an outspoken critic of the War on Terror, and seeked to undermined America's effort to win. The undermining our effort to win was the point of Coulter's remark, not that he was a disabled veteran.

Hey Rachel, if I'm wrong, I pledge seek out and read any/all forthcoming articles that you author. If I'm right, you quit journalism and seek an occupation where thoroughness is not a requirement. Like, say, an advisor for the Democrat Party.

49 posted on 01/19/2006 6:10:00 AM PST by danbo
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To: danbo
Good Grief!

I didn't see or hear of this, but let me guess.

The disabled veteran was an outspoken critic of the War on Terror, and seeked to undermined America's effort to win...

You are CLOSE. :o)
This particular "urban legend" about Ann referred to a traitor from a PREVIOUS war, the one in VIETNAM.
Here is the REAL story, from Ann's interview in that mouthpiece of the "vast right wing" conspirators (!) TIME magazine:
...MSNBC found Coulter "blunt, rude and just completely over the top," says Stephen Lewis, a former MSNBC producer involved in Coulter’s hiring—and firing. The network dismissed her at least twice: first in February 1997, after she insulted the late Pamela Harriman, the U.S. Ambassador to France, even as the network was covering her somber memorial service. Coulter said Harriman was one of those women who "used men to work their way up" and suggested "Sharon Stone or Madonna" as her replacement. Even so, the network missed Coulter’s jousting and quickly rehired her.

Eight months later, Coulter’s relationship with MSNBC ended permanently after she tangled with a disabled Vietnam veteran on the air. Robert Muller, co-founder of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, asserted that "in 90% of the cases that U.S. soldiers got blown up [in Vietnam]—Ann, are you listening?—they were our own mines." (Muller was misquoting a 1969 Pentagon report that found that 90% of the components used in enemy mines came from U.S. duds and refuse.)

Coulter, who found Muller’s statement laughable, averted her eyes and responded sarcastically: "No wonder you guys lost." It became an infamous—and oft-misreported—Coulter moment. The Washington Post and others turned the line into a more personal attack: "People like you caused us to lose that war..."


50 posted on 01/19/2006 6:34:00 AM PST by RonDog
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