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WA RESIDENTS: Changes at KVI & KOMO-Carlson & Schram new radio show (some say it's "THE ODD COUPLE")
The John Carlson Show - 570KVI - AM ^ | 1/18/06 | John Carlson

Posted on 01/18/2006 6:08:54 PM PST by paulat

NOT POSTED YET ON 570KVI.com...but I had to post a URL.

Starting Monday, January 30, 2006:

John Carlson and Ken Schram will do a 2-hour show (10AM - noon)weekdays on KOMO-AM 1000. The title of the show will be "The Commentators."

KVI's lineup will change with Carlson doing 3-5PM and Bryan Suits picking up 5-8PM.

The first hour of Tony Snow will re-air from 8-9PM, but management indicates this will be temporary.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: talkradio

1 posted on 01/18/2006 6:08:57 PM PST by paulat
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To: sionnsar

Ping-a-ding!


2 posted on 01/18/2006 6:10:01 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
Just recently, from what I'm reading, there appears to be a lot of local radio talk-show re-shuffling, adding and subtracting.

So far it seems to be all in conservatism's favor.

We're holding the line in radio, folks, hooray!

Leni

3 posted on 01/18/2006 6:17:12 PM PST by MinuteGal (Ahoy there! - "FReeps Ahoy 4" will embark for the Caribbean. The cruise thread is up and running!)
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To: paulat

What about Kirby Wilbur ?


4 posted on 01/18/2006 6:26:36 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Boazo

The rest of the schedule stays in place @ KVI...Kirby stays the same...Tony Snow stays the same...Hannity stays the same.


5 posted on 01/18/2006 6:29:16 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Glad to hear that, Thanks


6 posted on 01/18/2006 7:08:20 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: paulat
They really had me going there. I love Larry Elder on KVI but he comes on at 3 am to 5 am. Had to buy a recorder to hear him. Tonight John talked the whole show about a memo informing county workers to remove any Sea Hawk cheer leaders pictures from their work spaces for fear of creating a harassing work environment. I might point out Kirby Wilbur talked it to death this morning also. I imagine Larry elder will have something more interesting to hear in the morning. The truth is most days Kirby or John's show could be cut by an hour with no great loss. They talk about all the show prep they do but if you only talk about one thing how hard can that be? Hey maybe KVI could give us the third hour of Larrrrrrrry Elllder, and we could get to hear his Mom. Wow what an idea.
7 posted on 01/18/2006 7:35:04 PM PST by stratous
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To: stratous

...uh...stratous...Most people have what is called a "life" and don't listen to the same radio station 24/7....

Kirby's audience is AT LEAST 60% different from John's. And even their very own audiences vary hour-by-hour. It only makes sense. People have to work for a living...get kids off to school...make dinner...sleep. The folks listening to Kirby at 5 a.m. are NOT the same people listening to John at 5 p.m.

I don't mean to be harsh...but there is a reason that Larry Elder is on when he's on...it's ratings.


8 posted on 01/18/2006 8:50:17 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Tony Snow is my fav. :) Helps the mornings go by sooo much smoother.


9 posted on 01/18/2006 8:57:52 PM PST by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: PureSolace

It's always fun when Tony posts here.


10 posted on 01/18/2006 9:52:01 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/256139_radiobeat19.html

Thursday, January 19, 2006

On Radio: KOMO-AM is uniting longtime adversaries as 'The Commentators'

By BILL VIRGIN
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

Dennis Kelly, the program director for Fisher Broadcasting's Seattle AM radio stations, has been a regular witness to the ongoing hallway bantering and insult-swapping between talk-show host John Carlson and television commentator Ken Schram.

But instead of telling the two "Hey, keep it down," he came up with a different idea: Put the two of them on the air together.

Which is what he's done. Starting Jan. 30, Schram and Carlson will host "The Commentators," a mix of news, interviews, analysis and commentary, about the news and about each other, 10 a.m. to noon weekdays on KOMO-AM (1000).

The placement of the show is interesting. While KVI-AM (570) is Fisher's local talk-radio station, KOMO-AM has been built as a 24-hours news-traffic station that is also the radio home of the Seattle Mariners.

But Kelly said the show was placed on KOMO for several reasons. One, it isn't a talk show in the sense of taking phone calls from listeners. KOMO also has an audience more evenly split between Republicans, Democrats and independents than KVI-AM, where Carlson is afternoon drive-time host.

Two, all-news stations around the country are looking at ways to tweak the format, in part because of differences in listening habits during the day, Kelly says.

In midmorning, listeners drop in on KOMO "for traffic and a bit of news," then head off elsewhere, such as the music stations, for entertainment. Kelly figures that a lively show of news, analysis, interviews and exchanges between the hosts might keep some of those listeners around, create "destination listening" and "give us a chance to stretch the time spent listening with our audience."

There's also a market opportunity in the talk format, what with AM rival KIRO-AM (710) currently looking for a permanent host for the 9 a.m.-noon slot.

"There's a golden opportunity for a new kind of radio show," says Kelly, describing "The Commentators" as a cross between "Meet the Press," Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" and CNN's "Crossfire."

The difference between that last show and "The Commentators" is that Kelly believes the Carlson-Schram pairing won't devolve into a shout-fest. "I don't think I've ever heard them scream at each other," Kelly says. Schram and Carlson share "a magical chemistry you look for in great teams."

Adds Schram, "We have a camaraderie, as vehemently as we disagree."

Both Carlson (who recently signed a new deal with Fisher) and Schram say they were looking for new challenges. Says Schram, who started with KOMO in 1977, "At this point in my career, if I can find something that is fun, challenging and worthwhile, hells bells, I'm going for it."

Carlson and Schram have been teamed before: Carlson as a guest on Schram's long-running public-affairs program "Town Meeting," Schram more recently on Carlson's show.

The rapport and repartee between the two suggests the potential for a show marked by a fast pace and humor. Carlson jokes that he and Schram got the gig only after Dan Lewis and Cindi Rinehart turned it down, and the initial idea was to have the two spin country records until the new station The Wolf beat them to it.

Will there be a serious or straight line in the two hours? "Not if I can help it," Schram says.

Carlson calls the approach "serious with a smile. ... Can you impart serious news and insight while having fun? Of course you can."

Despite the philosophical and political differences between the two, there's always the chance, Kelly says, "they could agree."

"Pigs could fly," Schram says.

To accommodate the new program Carlson will shorten his KVI shift to 3-5 p.m. weekdays. Bryan Suits' show will move to 5-8 p.m. Schram will continue to do his commentaries for KOMO-TV


11 posted on 01/18/2006 11:30:46 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Ken Schram.....geez.


12 posted on 01/18/2006 11:36:04 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

It's on KOMO...you can ignore it.


13 posted on 01/18/2006 11:37:11 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

It's Seattles version of "Hannity and Colmes."


14 posted on 01/19/2006 5:57:46 AM PST by irishtenor (At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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To: paulat

My most humblest of apologies to the great and wonderful Paulat, and my sincerest of apologies at voicing my thoughts on John and Kirby's sometimes broken record shows as I call them. I can still remember when Kirby used to brag on air how "he didn't even know how to turn on a computer and would get someone else in the studio to do that internet thing for him." But now if you call up and ask politly where he has gotten the story he is now yapping about for the last hour, he speaks as though this country boy's got no life and should sit around 24 seven, listening to his slightly to religous to moralistic show at times for me, waiting for him to bless us with where he has gotten this story now that he finally has learned to do that Internet thing on his own. You see I have been listening to Seattle talk radio long before there was a Kirby Wilber show at five in the morning or late in the evening when he started.

Yes you are indeed right. There are other radio shows to go to when I've gotten my belly full of the mediocraty that granted sometimes blesses the KVI airways. But as you stated there are other radio show to tune too. I generally go strait to KTTH 770 and if the two bozos they now have trying to replace Mike Seigle are boooooring then I can go to channel 92 and get G Gorden Liddy, or I can play my Larry Elder tapes, while I'm waiting to get a real life just like you real Seattle folks. I guess I could just fork out the $15 a month and get The entire Larry Elder Show on XM or was it Serious or no maybe both. Yah I think it was both. Speaking of ratings when are John Carlson and Kirby Wilber going to quite holding out and let thier ratings be tested on satellite radio and a National audience?????Hmmmm?


15 posted on 01/19/2006 7:27:25 AM PST by stratous
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To: stratous

Please leave me alone. Thanks.


16 posted on 01/19/2006 10:52:58 AM PST by paulat
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To: Libertina; paulat; Jack Black; Salmonslayer; elder5; Checkers; Brian Allen; lkco; phantomworker; ...
Thanks to paulat for the ping.


Evergreen State ping

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this ping list.

Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

All: Pings are going to be extremely infrequent the next week, because I'm only rarely going to be around.

17 posted on 01/19/2006 3:25:54 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006 | Is it February yet?)
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To: paulat

Interesting... too bad they're competing with Rush, but it'll make for a good alternative especially when Rush has substitutes on.

I never used to like Schram at all, and his commentaries on KOMO TV were usually cause to throw shoes at the TV. But I'll one thing for him: I think he "gets it" with regard to 9-11 and terrorism, as much as a bleeding heart liberal is likely to, anyway.

He and John are good together on the radio. They spar well with each other. It might just work.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 4:18:58 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius

No Doubt it will work,should be Fun.


19 posted on 01/19/2006 5:25:33 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: Ramius

I'm just trying to figure out if Rush will stay on KTTH. I don't know how they'll play this out.


20 posted on 01/19/2006 6:09:39 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

I've wondered about that too. I've never gotten the full brief on why KVI lost Rush in the first place, though. Do you know the inside scoop on that?


21 posted on 01/19/2006 6:13:41 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: paulat
Carlson (who recently signed a new deal with Fisher)

I have no clue what radio guys make. Have a ballpark figure?

22 posted on 01/19/2006 6:19:24 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Ramius
I've wondered about that too. I've never gotten the full brief on why KVI lost Rush in the first place, though. Do you know the inside scoop on that?

No, I don't. It still seems to me to be a silly move. KTTH has nowhere near the community support that KVI has. I have thought it might have been the Medved connection, but that has never been substantiated.

23 posted on 01/19/2006 6:24:42 PM PST by paulat
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To: Veto!
I have no clue what radio guys make. Have a ballpark figure?

Sorry to be dense...but it's gotta be in the low 6-figures for a market like Seattle. You also have to figure in commercial royalties and public appearance fees.

On the TV side...it was published a few years ago that Jean Enersen (KING5) was making upwards of $500K ($500K-$650K)...so you gotta benchmark from there.

24 posted on 01/19/2006 6:28:54 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
I think the point is that if I tune into KVI during the morning drive time, I get to hear Kirby talk about issue X. Then when I return home from work and listen to Carlson, I'm still hearing about issue X. And sense they both have similar POVs, I'm not hearing anything new.

Apparently it doesn't appear to be a problem since KVI still dominates in the ratings, but I had that experience quite often when commuting between Everett and Seattle and back. Fortunately at the time Pat Cashman was on KOMO in the mornings, so I could get a little bit of good humor on my way in to work.
25 posted on 01/19/2006 6:40:34 PM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: birbear
I think the point is that if I tune into KVI during the morning drive time, I get to hear Kirby talk about issue X. Then when I return home from work and listen to Carlson, I'm still hearing about issue X. And sense they both have similar POVs, I'm not hearing anything new.

I agree...but you have to take into account host egos...they each think they have a "unique" take. If it's a big topic, they think no one can cover it like they can.

I still have to emphasize, however, that momentum builds on a topic during the day. The folks that don't get to expound in the AM will be the first ones on the phone in the PM.

Also...the audiences are not as similar as you might think.

26 posted on 01/19/2006 7:00:25 PM PST by paulat
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To: birbear
I think the point is that if I tune into KVI during the morning drive time, I get to hear Kirby talk about issue X. Then when I return home from work and listen to Carlson, I'm still hearing about issue X. And sense they both have similar POVs, I'm not hearing anything new.

I agree...but you have to take into account host egos...they each think they have a "unique" take. If it's a big topic, they think no one can cover it like they can.

I still have to emphasize, however, that momentum builds on a topic during the day. The folks that don't get to expound in the AM will be the first ones on the phone in the PM.

Also...the audiences are not as similar as you might think.

27 posted on 01/19/2006 7:01:02 PM PST by paulat
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To: birbear
I think the point is that if I tune into KVI during the morning drive time, I get to hear Kirby talk about issue X. Then when I return home from work and listen to Carlson, I'm still hearing about issue X. And sense they both have similar POVs, I'm not hearing anything new.

I agree...but you have to take into account host egos...they each think they have a "unique" take. If it's a big topic, they think no one can cover it like they can.

I still have to emphasize, however, that momentum builds on a topic during the day. The folks that don't get to expound in the AM will be the first ones on the phone in the PM.

Also...the audiences are not as similar as you might think.

28 posted on 01/19/2006 7:01:50 PM PST by paulat
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To: All
Sorry for the triple post...every time I hit "Post," it gave me a "Sorry, an error has occurred" message
29 posted on 01/19/2006 7:04:17 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Thanks. I can do anything Enerson can and then some. Where's my bushelful of bucks?


30 posted on 01/19/2006 9:01:00 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: paulat

Maybe the message wasn't referring to a computer error, hmmmmm?


31 posted on 01/19/2006 11:37:43 PM PST by beelzepug (only two months till spring training starts.)
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To: paulat
Personally I find Schram to be a grating loud mouth and turn him off when his is on Carlson's show. His style of personal attack is just so typical liberal.

schu
32 posted on 01/20/2006 2:24:24 PM PST by schu
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