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Tucker Carlson: Bin Laden Getting 'Talking Points' from 'NY Times'
Editor and Publisher ^ | Jan 21, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 01/21/2006 10:29:51 AM PST by abb

Published: January 21, 2006 12:10 PM ET

NEW YORK While much of the liberal blogosphere, and political figures such as Sen. John Kerry, remain inflamed over comments by MSNBC's Chris Matthews on "Hardball" on Thursday--in which he suggested that Osama bin Laden, in his latest video tape, sounded an awful lot like fillmmaker Michael Moore--The New York Times has also now been linked to Osama by another cable news pundit.

On Friday night, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough weighed in on the subject, going beyond Moore to claim that bin Laden was also borrowing language or ideas from the likes of Howard Dean and Sen. Ted Kennedy. His guest, Tucker Carlson, who has his own MSNBC show, then spread the net further, to include opinion columnists at The New York Times.

The exchange from the transcript follows. *

SCARBOROUGH: Now, of course, Tucker, I'm not comparing these Democrats to Osama bin Laden, but look.

First thing, Osama talks about how our troops are terrorizing women and children in Iraq. John Kerry said the same thing in front of Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation."

Osama's saying that George Bush knows he can't win this war, something that Howard Dean said, and, also, that this was launched for political reasons, which of course Ted Kennedy said last year, that this was all dreamed up in Texas for political benefit.

CARLSON: By the merchants of war who financed Bush's presidential campaign, in the words of Osama bin Laden and many on the left. In other words, Halliburton is responsible for this war, every single talking point.

I hate to think of Osama bin Laden reclining in his cave in Waziristan, reading the op-ed page of "The New York Times." But, clearly, he is. He's got every talking point. It's uncanny.

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Meanwhile, appearing on the Fox News show "Hannity & Colmes," former Rep. Newt Gingrich said, "I think it's quite clear as you point out, Sean [Hannity], that from this tape, that bin Laden and his lieutenants are monitoring the American news media, they're monitoring public opinion polling, and I suspect they take a great deal of comfort when they see people attacking United States policies."

Sen. Kerry, posting at the popular blog DailyKos, responded to the latest commentary: "Here's a subject suited for true hard ball, on Hardball: four years of failure-- enough is enough-- why hasn't Osama Bin Laden been captured or killed, and how will he be destroyed before he next appears on tape to spread his disgusting message? That discussion -- rather than criticizing American citizens who exercise their right to free speech and express dissenting opinions -- is the discussion that America needs. That would be the kind of debate on Hardball to which we should all tune in."

E&P Staff (epic1934@aol.com)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; bowtieboy; captainobvious; msm; nyt; obl; obltape; oldmedia; pundits; pwn3dbytriumph; scarborough; talkingpoints
Tucker gets it....finally...
1 posted on 01/21/2006 10:29:52 AM PST by abb
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To: abb

Same for Matthews.


2 posted on 01/21/2006 10:32:15 AM PST by SC33
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To: abb

I thought imitation was the highest form of flattart.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 10:33:03 AM PST by blackdiamondracer
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To: abb
Sooo Mr. Kerry.....

Is Osama going to be your running mate? I see your on the same page.
4 posted on 01/21/2006 10:33:39 AM PST by baystaterebel (http://omphalosgazer.blogspot.com/)
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To: abb
Al Queda propaganda and the NY Times editorial page are indistinguishible. Also the Times actively aides and abets al Queda by leaking our national security intelligence gathering procedures and findings at every opportunity.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 10:34:13 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: abb
Their response to this charge?

Of course similar deductions will be expressed. The "truth" is simply the truth.

6 posted on 01/21/2006 10:36:15 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Fact is many, on the Dem Left are hopeing and pulling for a terrorist victory; they see it as their path back to power.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 10:37:56 AM PST by kjo
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To: abb

Funny, just the other day hubby and I were talking about the fact that the dems would be better served if they would replace Dean with Bin Laden. More dems seem to like Bin Laden.


8 posted on 01/21/2006 10:38:39 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: baystaterebel

Remember that campaign sticker from 2004, that said something like, John Kerry's Bin Laden's man, George Bush is mine? More true than ever.


9 posted on 01/21/2006 10:39:10 AM PST by Eva
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To: abb

Gigolo Johns flair for the obvious is blinding. I would imagine he would hope that his pen pal OBL gets his before his next "disgusting message" can be published. No doubt the next one will be on the op-ed page of the Times.


10 posted on 01/21/2006 10:39:41 AM PST by Adrastus (If you don't like my attitude, talk to some one else.)
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To: SC33
Same for Matthews.

Really?

FOR THE RECORD: Chris Matthews' LIES About Laura Bush's Remarks About Nagin

11 posted on 01/21/2006 10:42:29 AM PST by Howlin
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To: NoCmpromiz; Darksheare

*snerk* ping


12 posted on 01/21/2006 10:45:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: abb
This is why Democrats cannot be trusted with national security. NY City would be a nuclear contamination site before they reacted to a threat.

The expression, politics stops at the waters edge has no meaning to the Democrats (too broad to mention them all) and the likes of the NY Times (and too many Liberal Bush hating papers to mention) and the Liberal news channels (all but Fox for the most part) who put their political agenda before our security.

Republicans have their flaws too, including the border where terrorist can walk right across and melt into the background as sleeper cells.

Osama and others who are considerer our enemies read the news too, and play off what is said for their advantage. They must take great joy knowing the Democrats wish to thwart the Patriot Act or condemn torture in any means.

I hope they read this and get a large lump in their throats knowing they have aided the enemy. George Bush is not the enemy, and until they figure that out their actions should be considered treason.
13 posted on 01/21/2006 10:46:02 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: abb

No........

Tucker is a Libertarian. At some point during each political day, his clock aligns with a conservative, but only once a day.

The same premise works on most Democrats.

Just my observation.....


14 posted on 01/21/2006 10:46:13 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Howlin

the article seems to be gone. just what did Crissy say about Laura?


15 posted on 01/21/2006 10:50:01 AM PST by tazannie
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To: tazannie

My link must have been bad:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1561073/posts


16 posted on 01/21/2006 10:50:56 AM PST by Howlin
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To: TheForceOfOne

They must take great joy knowing the Democrats wish to thwart the Patriot Act or condemn torture in any means.
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The radical liberal Dems are American traitors. Plain and simple -- America is not a concern to them in any regard, other than being able to exercise absolute control over it, and its people's wealth.

It is high time the people do something about it.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 10:52:01 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: abb

Kerry - "four years of failure-- enough is enough-- why hasn't Osama Bin Laden been captured or killed".

Since when do the years of failure to catch bin Laden add up to four. It seems to me that the president had a stack of offers to hand over bin Laden, practically giftwrapped, way back in the 1990's. Bush, or whoever it was back then, must be a complete bozo to have turned down those opportunities.


18 posted on 01/21/2006 10:56:33 AM PST by hauerf
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To: tazannie
Mathews continuously preaches BS from his bubble wrapped universe.

He will call the author of a book a liar to his face, even when he has never read the book and has only heard the opinion of someone he respects and then repeats it like a trained bird. He repeats these things as his own thoughts, and has never admitted making a single mistake. Not once!

What makes Mathews truly disgusting, is that he won't admit he is a shill for the left, and continues to think of himself as a journalist.

If we do anything about cleaning up the issue of bad press and untruthful reporting, we really need to redefine what a journalist is, as opposed to a political agent or activist.
19 posted on 01/21/2006 11:01:37 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: abb

I saw this exchange when it originally aired and it was uncanny how close the dem talking points are to Bin Laden's propaganda droppings. Yes, Tucker does get it right...sometimes.


20 posted on 01/21/2006 11:04:53 AM PST by Liberty Valance ("Chloe...I need another way out of here" ~ Jack Bauer)
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To: abb
Freepers have always maintained - the Democrats and media are aiding and abetting the enemy!!!! They are killing our men and women because of their hate for President Bush and because they want power and glory for themselves.

With the last two hate filled and critical of the Administration speeches the media has let us see and hear, hillary clinton has given OBL his talking points, she must be held responsible, because she has the media's ear and eye more than any Democrat and her hate for President Bush is fueling the flame!!!

The X IMPEACHED PRESIDENT bill clinton has also been aiding and abetting the enemy and he must be held responsible. This other clinton has been off shore criticizing our going to war.

The Democrats Senators and Representives have been in the news and on the floor spewing their hate - aiding and abetting the enemy!! And they know what they are doing. They all know they are killing our men and women but will do anything to bring down President Bush's rating. Real lives for ratings!!!!!!

It won't be long before Freepers put the Democrat words up next to the text of the just released video from Bin Laden!!!!! For the world to see!

21 posted on 01/21/2006 11:06:05 AM PST by malia (The Impeached x42 clinton - a Paper Tiger President! MSM - bottom feeders! What a team!!!!)
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To: SC33

Do you think that Chris forgot to take his meds on the evening in question?
I will have to review the video for signs of his usual frothing, spitting, and stuttering to see if he was his usual self.


22 posted on 01/21/2006 11:07:05 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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To: teenyelliott
It's bin Laden!
23 posted on 01/21/2006 11:07:28 AM PST by GregoryFul
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To: abb

OB Laden, the Dimocr-ps,the main stream media, all are under the control the "feminist" movement as to propaganda in the USofA. There are huge numbers of American women that hate the male life style and would destroy the nation to destroy this life style. This male female rivilry is ancient in oringin, but never as virulent as today. The American female (not all) would accept OB Laden over Rush Limbaugh.


24 posted on 01/21/2006 11:14:45 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: GregoryFul

Are you correcting me? If you are, I could not care less how it is spelled.


25 posted on 01/21/2006 11:39:19 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: abb

It's so simple, Americans, now you know that the entire Democrat Party is guilty of both treason and being traitors to the USA!!! The current Demcrat Party needs to be destroyed at the ballot box in 2006. If it is not destroyed there will be many American mothers and fathers mourning their babies and children after the terrorists have a field day slaughtering them. First the Jews, the Gays and the Blacks will get the ax, then the children, and finally the remaining women will be raped, tortured, shot in the head. The men will foced to watch. Then they will be quickly dispatched to the hereafter. Vote Democrat and seal your doom and the doom of your families!!! America, you better wise up, reall quick!!!


26 posted on 01/21/2006 11:52:46 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: abb

that osama says the same things as his erstwhile allies the dem/stealth-commies should surprise no one


27 posted on 01/21/2006 12:03:52 PM PST by NoClones
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To: abb

how will he be destroyed before he next appears on tape to spread his disgusting message?

Since Osama is hitting the libs talking points it appears Kerry just said his own message is disgusting.


28 posted on 01/21/2006 12:13:02 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: abb
The sad thing, for America, is that there really isn't any debate over whether bin Laden's talking points are the same as the Democrats, they are. Even left wing media agrees. The MSM can't change this FACT, BUT...,

The MSM debate will move further toward whether the anti-Bush, pro-terrorist actions proposed by the Democratic Party in their talking points, and now adopted nearly word-for-word by bin Laden, are the correct way for this country to proceed. The left leaning MSM will now be testing the waters and determining the type of articles they need to publish in order to archieve high anti-Bush numbers in the coming polls that ask Americans to choose between Bush and the "bin Laden/Democratic Party Coalition" (a coalition in need of an abbreviation). Watch for it in the MSM near you!

29 posted on 01/21/2006 12:26:10 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: abb

Tucker is in N.O. this week crying the blues over the chocolate city that will never be.

He just kills me when he has that "pained" expression on his face. Looks like he's about 4 yrs. old and just found out that there's no Santa.

That he got ONE thing right doesn't impress me.


30 posted on 01/21/2006 12:29:01 PM PST by bonfire
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To: FormerACLUmember

LOL! One of the funniest graphics I've seen!


31 posted on 01/21/2006 12:30:13 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
LOL! One of the funniest graphics I've seen!

I also like the NY Times "Christmas" issue.


32 posted on 01/21/2006 12:42:03 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: saganite

LOL. I mean we even elected his cousin . . . Obama bin Lying.


33 posted on 01/21/2006 1:11:28 PM PST by yevgenie
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To: abb

We've been saying this for years... we deserve a pay check.


34 posted on 01/21/2006 1:12:53 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: hauerf

Kerry - "four years of failure-- enough is enough-- why hasn't Osama Bin Laden been captured or killed".

Since when do the years of failure to catch bin Laden add up to four. It seems to me that the president had a stack of offers to hand over bin Laden, practically giftwrapped, way back in the 1990's. Bush, or whoever it was back then, must be a complete bozo to have turned down those opportunities.




That was Clintoon.


35 posted on 01/21/2006 1:13:39 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Over THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE lost their 'civil liberties' on September 11, 2001.)
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To: abb
"I hate to think of Osama bin Laden reclining in his cave in Waziristan, reading the op-ed page of "The New York Times." But, clearly, he is. He's got every talking point. It's uncanny".

Thank you Captain Obvious. Uncanny? I think you have that bowtie on too tight. Try and keep up ya little nerd and get with the program.

36 posted on 01/21/2006 1:17:24 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: TADSLOS

bump to top


37 posted on 01/21/2006 4:23:05 PM PST by malia (The Impeached x42 clinton - a Paper Tiger President! MSM - bottom feeders! What a team!!!!)
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To: Christian4Bush

"That was Clintoon."

Is that the same guy as Xlin Ton, the first president elected with Red Chinese bankrolling?


38 posted on 01/21/2006 4:38:22 PM PST by hauerf
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To: hauerf

bump again


39 posted on 01/21/2006 5:26:59 PM PST by malia (The Impeached x42 clinton - a Paper Tiger President! MSM - bottom feeders! What a team!!!!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

That pic is priceless... ;o)


40 posted on 01/21/2006 8:24:46 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Super Man wears Jack Bauer pajamas)
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To: Liberty Valance

bump again


41 posted on 01/22/2006 12:59:29 AM PST by malia (The Impeached x42 clinton - a Paper Tiger President! MSM - bottom feeders! What a team!!!!)
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To: teenyelliott

It's a he.


42 posted on 01/22/2006 10:11:42 AM PST by GregoryFul
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