Posted on 01/21/2006 10:12:03 PM PST by Tarantulas
Minutemen release video of Mexican Army incursion of U.S. Border
(SCOTTSDALE, AZ) January 20, 2006 – The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (“MCDC”) announced the release today of video footage of an incursion by a unit of the Mexican army across the U.S. border in Arizona.
Chris Simcox and a group of Civil Defense Corps volunteers encountered a squad of approximately eight armed Mexican soldiers about 500 yards inside American territory.
The Mexican soldiers started running back through the brush to Mexico when they realized they had been spotted.
The video shows a uniformed Mexican soldier climbing through a barbed wire fence on American soil to return to the Mexican side of the border as he races to catch up with the other Mexican soldiers who had also climbed back through the fence as they retreated back into their country.
The soldiers raced up a hill to a group of abandoned buildings at a ranch where military transport vehicles with more soldiers were located.
A group of armed Mexican soldiers then returned to the barbed wire fence (on American soil) and confronted Simcox and the volunteers. A discussion in Spanish ensued, with the agitated soldier 'in charge' saying the Americans had no business being there.
Simcox and the volunteers did not budge. The Mexican soldiers left and drove off. Judging from earlier activity observed at the ranch that morning, Simcox is of the belief that a trafficking operation had been disrupted by the volunteers.
The footage, filmed in 2004, was sent to then Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge. His office did not respond. The video has remained in the Minuteman video archive and is being released in response to recent news reports that over 200 cross-border incursions by the Mexican army have been documented since 1996.
Gee, maybe they realize that our government won't do anything about it. Do we even have a policy dealing with illegal immigration any more?
Hasw anybody read Michael Levine's book Deep Cover? If I remember correctly, he alleged the DEA was actually flying drugs into the U.S.
Any thoughts?
No surprise here. They had to change their panties.
what is illegal immigration?
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Did not Fox say that the Mexican military stays away from the US/Mexican border?
I don't believe anything Fox says. He is cut from the same politically correct screw-the-people kind of cloth as Clinton, and his record for telling the truth is about the same.
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kind of a crumby video...the cameraman jumps around all over and doesn't keep it focused on the action very well. Lot's of repeats and the audio sucks . I suppose they were scared , but they could have done a way more effective job of what they tried to do. Where does the film show the Mex's on our side ? Stepping thru the fence ? That would be priceless ! No wonder
Homeland Security ignored it , if this is all there is to it.
Yes, eliminate the use of the word ILLEGAL!
Please don't ask for forgiveness for not being an American. Your opinion is as valid as anyone's.
It's hard to tell why a person from Haiti would receive bad treatment from US Immigration agents. Maybe there is more to that story than you are being told.
The immigration problem has been building for years. There is a group of sympathizers within this country who tries to label any attempt at keeping the illegals out as some kind of racist effort. This accusation of racism has kept the politicians from taking effective action against the problem. Another accusation from the sympathizers is that we need the illegal aliens to work here because they do the jobs that American citizens don't want to do. This is actually wrong, since the jobs that the illegals are doing now are jobs that Americans were doing 50 years ago. There are very few "entry level" jobs in this country because many of them are already being done by illegal aliens. It's a wonder our unemployment rate isn't much higher than it is.
Just because there are day labor centers at Home Depot stores in California doesn't mean Home Depot hires illegal aliens. It means that they spend money to give the illegals a place to gather where employers can come and hire them. This is actually an illegal act if Home Depot has reason to believe that some of the people they are aiding are in this country illegally. I wish the federal government would take action against Home Depot, but so far they haven't.
uh its not home depot, its the city of los angeles. in order for home depot to get a building permit to build a store, a safe haven thing must be built for "day workers". get it? btw, los angeles among thousands of other cities have sanctuary policies, in other words, they order the civil employees not to cooperate with federal immigration laws. place blame where blame lies, at 1600 pennsylvania ave.
Bienvenidos America!
I'm waiting for the administration response that the Minutemen are a buncha voyeuristic vigilantes, who lack the common decency to let people commit crimes in the privacy of their own future country.
You can't blame the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue (President of the US, for those who aren't American) for the leftist policies of individual states. How bad does it have to get before the citizens of California rise up and put a stop to it?
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Speaking of books, read Harold Coyle's "Trial By Fire". This military novel postulates a war between the US and Mexico fomented by a fixer who got rich suborning politicians and the military and getting them in bed with drug lords. He used mercenaries dressed as Mexican military to assassinate border patrolmen among other misdeads.
Something's been done. Homeland Insecurity just hired Jackboot John Magaw.
I'm sure they're planning to burn someone alive in their homes, right now.
Question is, who do they plan to kill?
Gotta agree. The article claims there was an incursion, and perhaps there was in this case, I just don't think I saw it on the video- unless someone with sharper eyes can point it out to me.
Have you a source for their hiring of Jackboot John?
That about sums it up. A government that encourages the breaking of it's own laws?? But try not filing your taxes!
I'm thinking of going to Mexico, renouncing my citizenship, and coming back. What a tax break!!
I wondered when Simcox was going to release this publically. He showed it to my group right after it happened. I've got friends who live less than a mile from where this happened.
If I remember correctly, he alleged the DEA was actually flying drugs into the U.S.
Oh they "responded" alright...
By laughing while tossing the film into the circular file.
If the fence seen a few times in the video is the border, then the Mexicans appeared to stay on their side.
Is that the case with the fence?
I'm shocked...../sarcasm
A group of armed Mexican soldiers then returned to the barbed wire fence (on American soil) and confronted Simcox and the volunteers. A discussion in Spanish ensued, with the agitated soldier 'in charge' saying the Americans had no business being there.
Yup...just invading the Countries "Americans Won't Invade!"
Who the HELL is this greasy Mexican Military Moron to tell American Citizens where they can and can't be?!?!
Oh...now I get it. It's the meeting of the Liberal DOOFUSES that can now tell Americans where they can and can't be! "Go home Gringo (Though where would that be now!)...you don't belong here....this is OUR area...Vincente says so, and Jorge Arbusto agreed!"
It seems to me that the "Tree of Liberty" needs watering...and I think I know JUST the traitors to do it!
But, but, but, Chertoff and Homeland Insecurity JUST assured us those invasions were all "mistakes." We should trust the government and not believe these "vigilantes."
The states have tried. California passed prop 187, but their republican governor wouldn't fight in court for it. Certain people, like Grover Norquist and Ceasar Conda worked tirelessly to defeat prop 187, Norquist is the point man for the Bush white house on immigration. Conda worked for Dick Cheney and now is involved with Soros.
ARIZONA REPUBLIC (Op-Ed): A conservative manifesto for solving border woes
Aug. 15, 2004
"How, exactly, would we as a nation seal our borders, and how would we man our economy if we did? Who would labor in the fields to get our crops out of the ground? Who would take the low-paying jobs in our hotels and hospitals? Few native-born Americans now raise their children to do work like that: We aspire to better–and we're lucky that we can. And even if we could stomach the kinds of draconian measures some suggest on the border, that would only drive more of the migrant flow underground, with more of the consequences Arizonans know so well: the disruptive transients, the soaring service costs and the deadly violence associated with human smuggling. In other words, the so-called solutions of those who oppose realistic reform would only entrench the status quo. Conservatives, both in the White House and Congress, have a better answer. Arizona Reps. Jeff Flake and Jim Kolbe and Sen. John McCain led the way last summer with a groundbreaking legislative proposal; then, in January, Bush outlined a set of principles that picked up on several of their best ideas. The centerpiece of both packages: a guest worker program combined with a transitional provision for those already here and working–a measure that would allow them to come in out of the shadows and earn the right to a legal job. "
Signatories (Affiliations for identification purposes only) Jeff Bell, principal, Capital City Partners Larry Cirignano, president, CatholicVote.org Cesar Conda, former assistant for domestic policy to Vice President Dick Cheney Francis Fukuyama, dean of faculty, the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies Richard Gilder, Gilder Gagnon Howe & Co. LLC Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the House of Representatives Ed Goeas, president and CEO, the Tarrance Group Kerri Houston, vice president of policy, Frontiers of Freedom Tamar Jacoby, senior fellow, the Manhattan Institute Jack Kemp, 1996 Republican vice presidential nominee, co-director of Empower America Steve Moore, senior fellow, Cato Institute Mike Murphy, Republican strategist Grover Norquist, president, Americans for Tax Reform Richard W. Rahn, senior fellow, the Discovery Institute
Home Depot neither owns nor operates the day labor site. They were required by the city to build it as a condition of getting their permits approved. The city owns and operates the center at a reported annual cost of $94,000.
Thanks for showing the picture of the border as it really is. We can't shut this border down without a major effort by the military including concertina wire, minefields, watchtowers and dogs.
I, for one, don't want to see that happen. I think you shut off the spigot at the source: employers.
Send a few businessmen and society wives to jail for employing illegals. No exceptions, no excuses.
Then set up a tightly regulated bracero program.
This film was discussed at FR in 2004 and it hasn't changed.
Did you look at it?
Agreed. This video does more to hurt the reputation of The Minutemen with the general public than it does to prove a point that most of us here fully acknowledge is a problem IMO. The Minutemen don't have to convince us, but they do need irrefutable documentation of border incursions. This video doesn't do it for me, so I can only imagine what any skeptic (ie...DHS Director)would conclude. I agree with the intent and attempt, just not with the final product in this case.
Mexicans good, Hatians bad.
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Why would you need "irrefutable documentation" of something that even the DHS skeptics admit has happened more than 200 times in the recent past?
This is why:
Chertoff Call Incursion Reports Overblown
Showing a video on nationwide TV that does not clearly show Mexican soldiers crossing the border is not helpful. It feeds into the very assertion that Chertoff claims.
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