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Terrorists on Tap
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 22, 2006 | VICTORIA TOENSING

Posted on 01/22/2006 7:37:31 AM PST by baystaterebel

In a speech last week, Al Gore took another swing at the National Security Agency's electronic surveillance program, which monitors international communications when one party is affiliated with terrorists. Specifically, Mr. Gore argued that George Bush "has been breaking the law repeatedly and persistently," and that such actions might constitute an impeachable offense. The question he raises is whether the president illegally bypassed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). But the real issue is national security: FISA is as adept at detecting--and, thus, preventing--a terrorist attack as a horse-and-buggy is at getting us from New York to Paris.

I have extensive experience with the consequences of government bungling due to overstrict interpretations of FISA. As chief counsel for the Senate Intelligence Committee from 1981 to 1984, I participated in oversight of FISA in the first years after its passage. When I subsequently became deputy assistant attorney general in the Reagan administration, one of my responsibilities was the terrorism portfolio, which included working with FISA.

In 1985, I experienced the pain of terminating a FISA wiretap when to do so defied common sense and thwarted the possibility of gaining information about American hostages. During the TWA 847 hijacking, American serviceman Robert Stethem was murdered and the remaining American male passengers taken hostage. We had a previously placed tap in the U.S. and thought there was a possibility we could learn the hostages' location. But Justice Department career lawyers told me that the FISA statute defined its "primary purpose" as foreign intelligence gathering. Because crimes were taking place, the FBI had to shut down the wire.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: algore; homelandsecurity; nsa; spying; toensing
Real lives being risked in real life situations by real idiots acting like they really care about "freedom".
1 posted on 01/22/2006 7:37:33 AM PST by baystaterebel
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To: baystaterebel
No thanks, John Dimwit Rockefeller, IV

Jay's got a miniscule mind.
So he tells us that we should be blind
And not ask smart hackers
To track our attackers.
I don't want advice from his kind.

2 posted on 01/22/2006 7:41:11 AM PST by syriacus
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To: baystaterebel
Real lives being risked in real life situations by real idiots acting like they really care about "freedom".

Or, in the moonbat mind of Kos, we should blindly flail about in front of Al Qaeda Uzis we might otherwise have found or avoided using taps, showing them how unafraid we are to die!

Why are liberal democrats so goofy? (That's a rhetorical question...)

3 posted on 01/22/2006 7:47:03 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: syriacus

That's very good!


4 posted on 01/22/2006 7:47:24 AM PST by TheGeezer
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There are other valid reasons for the president not to ask Congress for a legislative fix. To have public debate informs terrorists how we monitor them,

NOBODY IN THE ENEMEDIA IS SAYING THIS!!!!

They don't care how many of our secrets get leaked to the terrorists. They just want to damage Bush.

I hope they all get strung up. They're endangering MY country. MY family. DAMMITT!!!

/hysterics
5 posted on 01/22/2006 7:50:54 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: TheGeezer
That's very good!

Thank you. The outrageousness of the Democrats is very inspiring.

6 posted on 01/22/2006 7:50:57 AM PST by syriacus
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To: baystaterebel

Leftys, like Gore, have never cared about the "lives on the ground" when it comes to exposing the ways and means of fighting our enemies. How many have died over the years because of them? At this point, they've already compromised, if not entirely negated, the effectiveness of our intelliegence gathering. And they've done so solely for some kind of imaginary political gain. Anything - and I mean anything - that can be twisted into some "heads I win/tails you lose" talking point is OK with them.


7 posted on 01/22/2006 7:51:59 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: baystaterebel

Hey Al Gore! It's time for another reality check-you did not win in 2000 and you will not be president. Get over it.


8 posted on 01/22/2006 7:54:57 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: syriacus
Notice that Rockefeller was all over the tube yesterday with statements about preventing the deaths of more coal miners in West Virginia. By itself, that's a good idea. But contrast that with his position on NSA surveillance to prevent another 9/11.

The Rockefeller equation is this: Get excited about two deaths, when it's visible and voters might vote on that basis. Don't give a damn about 3,000 or more deaths, when it's not yet visible and voters might not vote on that basis.

Even if Rockefeller does not turn out to be one of the leakers to the NY Times, he is still a self-serving sleazeball who will do anything for political benefit behind the scenes, and lie about it in public.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "On Judge Alito, the San Francisco Chronicle is Unfit to be a Newspaper"

9 posted on 01/22/2006 7:58:25 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Hillary! delendum est.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Even if Rockefeller does not turn out to be one of the leakers to the NY Times, he is still a self-serving sleazeball who will do anything for political benefit behind the scenes, and lie about it in public.

You've got Jay's number.

And why weren't Rockefeller and Byrd doing something for miners before?

Democrats aren't leaders, They merely react to headlines.

10 posted on 01/22/2006 8:04:48 AM PST by syriacus
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To: baystaterebel
"Clinton-Gore...prohibited...intelligence...from even communicating with...law enforcement.

The Patriot Act corrected this problem and the FISA appeals court upheld the constitutionality...

The court cited an FBI agent's testimony that efforts to investigate two of the Sept. 11 hijackers were blocked by senior FBI officials, concerned about the FISA rule requiring separation."

The Left is truly bankrupt morally and intellectually. It has nothing to offer.

Its agenda has been stripped naked for all to see in all its ignominy.

If the American people were foolish enough to allow the Left to gain control of the government, America's foreign enemies would rejoice. Their fifth column in the U.S.A. would be in control of the U.S. government and America's destruction--it would seem to them--imminent. Nor would America's domestic enemies--this fifth column--the Left--fail to rejoice.

The Left can not be trusted

And must not be trusted,

With anything

But especially with something as vital as government--or national security.

11 posted on 01/22/2006 8:07:45 AM PST by Savage Beast (Women are like wine. You get what you pay for. Mine's the best. It's expensive. It's worth it.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Rocketfeller gave a perverted performance yesterday.

I guess he's been so busy globe trotting warning Damascus and ME oil dictators about what the 'evil' President was going to do, divining memos to ensnare a president, and writing letters to himself that he forgot all about his constituents.
12 posted on 01/22/2006 8:16:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: baystaterebel
He's right... Impeach CLINTON and take away his retirement payments !!

He was the one that used the same powers that they are blaming Bush of misusing.
13 posted on 01/22/2006 8:17:04 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: RandallFlagg
I hear you, my friend. I'm frustrated also.

Our defense ought to be an American concern. NO POLITICS should be involved. The dem leadership has been shameful in how they are handling their minority status. No loyal opposition there.
14 posted on 01/22/2006 8:30:03 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: aligncare
The dem leadership has been shameful in how they are handling their minority status.

On the plus side of that, if they keep it up their base will be too ashamed to show their faces.
They'll still find ways to cheat in elections -which is what WE'RE tasked to defend against.
15 posted on 01/22/2006 8:34:25 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: syriacus

There was once a limerick by me,
That didn't rhyme at all.
And it didn't have those two lines in the middle,
That are shorter then all the rest,
That limerick by me.
And it had one line too many.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 8:38:54 AM PST by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: RandallFlagg

Yes, since if they say what they are really about (International Socialist Utopia), they can't win an election at the national level.


17 posted on 01/22/2006 8:42:26 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Notice that Rockefeller was all over the tube yesterday

Rockefeller, the former WV Secretary of State and WV Governor was wearing his "down home" garb, trying to act like a regular guy.

Is it true that, in the late 1970's, Governor Jay Rockefeller had tried to ensure states could wrest control of surface mining regulations away from the Federal government?

This controversy subsequently resulted in introduction of the so-called "Rockefeller Amendment" that was conceived by then Governor Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia. It was intended to amend the federal surface mining act to allow states to individually interpret the federal law and write their regulations based on each interpretation.

18 posted on 01/22/2006 8:45:29 AM PST by syriacus
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To: watchin
I really admire your rhyme.
It's never considered a crime
To pen freer verse.
Whether wordy or terse
Your output is really sublime.
19 posted on 01/22/2006 8:50:41 AM PST by syriacus
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