Posted on 01/22/2006 9:27:01 AM PST by cgk
"a whole generation that could have help make up the imbalance in the Social Security Roles (sic)."
That's quite an interesting stand; these babies should have been born in order to be indentured servants for their elders' retirement.
"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." —The New York Times, September 22, 1980
exactly, i was being a smarta_ _ . but after i thought about it, it is a interesting way to think about it. Libs don't care about the moral reasons, but they might care about the taxes not being paid today from the ones that grew up to work. but we'd have to remembers, half might have become LIBS, and wanted Welfare themselves.
And when you consider the "legal" definition of protecting a woman's health.... It's not just about literally saving a woman's life - it's been expanded to include simply the paid and other "Normal" complications possible in every pregnancy....
I don't know what Nixon wrote after he was no longer president, but it doesn't take a lot of toodling around on the net to find ample evidence that Nixon's public stance prior to the 1972 election was anti-abortion. The pro-abortion folks certainly saw him as an enemy of their cause, and McGovern as at least a fellow-traveller.
It may be that Nixon was callously using it as a wedge issue, as he did with race and crime, and that he actually harbored other thoughts deep in his heart. But when it mattered (and back when Nixon mattered) -- back when it was naively thought that this was a purely state-by-state political and legislative issue -- Nixon's stance was anti-abortion. Consider his letter to Cardinal Cooke, supporting the Catholic Church's efforts to roll back New York's liberal abortion laws, a letter which evoked not a little ire.
McGovern did indeed make public statements that abortion should be a matter left to the states, because he feared that federal legislation might restrict the liberal abortion laws in his favorite states. But that was before Democrats discovered just how far they could get with the courts.
Abortion was most certainly an issue prior to 1973, as witnessed by the fights over changing state laws. If it were not a hot political issue, the libs wouldn't have felt the need to bypass state legislators and take the issue to the courts. They would rather just have pushed their non-controversial agenda through the legislatures of the 50 states.
Don't get me wrong, I don't view Nixon as some sort of knight on a white horse. I do know, having lived through that time, that Nixon's public stances on any number of issues of public morality made him beloved of decent people everywhere -- especially when the specter of McGovern was raised...
I realize that the NRLC feels that Nixon didn't do enough in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade. I would imagine that the answer is found in Chief Justice Burger's naive concurring opinion that stated that he didn't think that Roe v. Wade would have the sweeping effect that its dissenters said it would. Rehnquist and White were of course vindicated, but perhaps Nixon could be excused for not realizing who would be right on how things would turn out in practice. Reagan got taken to the cleaners on this issue when he was Governor as well.
The lines are a lot clearer in retrospect than they were then, especially since it wasn't an issue talked about over breakfast tables all that much...
I didn't see that posted on a liberal board, however; I saw it posted HERE.
Since 1973 there have been 21 million pregnancies amongst black women in the US. In that same time period there have been 8 million black births.
This is not just a generation lost, but it is genocide also.
You really think she is a "murderess"? Society never has, by any punishments legislated toward the woman when abortion was illegal (i.e., none). By your logic, any murderer could say, "I'm really, really, sorry", and that would be the end of it.
Words have meaning and you can't just use them for some propaganda purpose, no matter how good the cause.
What gets me about the liberals and abortion, is why are they so eager for it? Do they regularly get knocked up without intending to get knocked up and abortion is a regular part of the schedule like a yearly vacation? Oh yes, I forgot..they are liberals.
My use of the word genocide is far from propaganda and is in fact right on the money. I suggest you read up on Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood's "Negro project".
BTTT
I suggest you come into the 21st century and read up on the meaning of genocide and the history of abortion since 1978. I also gave you a matematical response which of course you cannot refute. You have built a straw man and carry it even when it's on fire.
Just about the worst decision in SCOTUS history. America's Holocaust.
Let me jump in for a bit, since I clearly lived through the founding of that non-existant "Constitutional right". Yes, a murderer CAN say "I'm truly, truly sorry", however, that won't (or shouldn't) exempt him from punishment.
A woman may be forgiven by God providing her repentance is truly of/from the heart (only God knows that for sure) but there still will be consequences, not by an eartly court perhaps but by conscience. I don't believe that can be argued, really. It could be that that punishment (conscience) is far more severe.
That still doesn't equate it with murder. There are some who would like to see the woman prosecuted for murder, and if it IS murder, that position is at least consistent (if unachievable).
Well you see, that's what makes this issue so unsolvable in today's society since we have lost sight of what's true. Yes, it's murder but hey, I'm not the SCOTUS either, but I know what's TRUE, I don't need any court or NARAL telling me what to believe.
Read the late Francis Schaeffer's and his wife Edith's books on these topics, very readable, very clear and very edifying. They were addressing this moral dilemma many years ago and what has come to pass is exactly what they warned us about.
Congratulations to new Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito. Here's hoping you get a chance to reverse this Constitutional travesty.
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