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Canadian General Election, Live Thread (UPDATE: Conservatives Win!)
Elections Canada ^ | N/A

Posted on 01/23/2006 8:03:44 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps

If JimRob, etc. approve this is the Live Thread for the Canadian General Election, on January 23rd, 2005.

We have a while to go before the returns start coming in, but I thought the thread needed to get up and running.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canadianelection; conservatives; consevatives; election; liberals; paulmartin; stephenharper; throwthebumsout
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To: NZerFromHK

Got it! Thanks for your excellent exposition.


1,451 posted on 01/23/2006 8:02:51 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: Koblenz

BC currently has a "right-wing" provincial government - the BC Liberals, which have no connection to the federal Liberal gangsters - and a lot of citizens here are thus pro-NDP (the provincial alternative to the BC Liberals).

??


1,452 posted on 01/23/2006 8:03:19 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: July 4th

If it weren't for the NDP, the Liberals would win majority governments with such boring regularity that nobody would even follow these election returns.


1,453 posted on 01/23/2006 8:03:29 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: conservative in nyc
The Ipsos poll predicted Liberals taking around 60 seats, same as BQ, and Cons at 140+. What has happened, apparently, is that left-leaning voters got frightened of an outright Tory majority and switched from NDP to Lib. at the last minute. The silent switch.
1,454 posted on 01/23/2006 8:03:53 PM PST by Skylab
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To: McGavin999

excerpt from American Spectator:

"...As a political consultant explained to me in Washington a few months ago before heading north to work for the Conservatives, the leaders of the Tories' prospective coalition partner, the separatist Bloc Quebecois, are willing to give Harper several years of rule (but expect lots of Tory reforms to exempt Quebec). The Conservative victory will be a real one, and not just for Harper and his party but for Canada, for North America, and for the world..."

http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_article.asp?art_id=9311


1,455 posted on 01/23/2006 8:04:06 PM PST by frankjr
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To: goldstategop

Will that independent Quebecer work with the Tories? I think I heard that he is a conservative talks show host.


1,456 posted on 01/23/2006 8:04:35 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: codercpc
I wonder when the DUmmies will start

I confess that I peeked on DU. The question of Diebold did come up. But basically, it boiled down to this:

Karl Rove was behind it.

I kid you not. The libs really believe that they are the persecuted majority.
1,457 posted on 01/23/2006 8:05:05 PM PST by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Yeah Wayne's uncle was running in London east, or west, but he has effectively lost


1,458 posted on 01/23/2006 8:05:15 PM PST by Arabs only 600 years behind us (Kick the French out of France)
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To: Free Dominoes

Honestly 10 Quebec ridings is amazing!!


1,459 posted on 01/23/2006 8:05:42 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Canadian Outrage:

where would you place the probability of Western Canadian sovereignty in the next... 20 yrs?


1,460 posted on 01/23/2006 8:06:51 PM PST by HunterAmor
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To: NorthOf45

Congratulations. Sincere congratulations.


1,461 posted on 01/23/2006 8:07:11 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Mo1

Me too Mo. It's gonna be a minority but it's a START. The fact is the Liberals got BEAT!! Dirty tricks, back room deals, everything, STILL got beat. You will notice a BIG difference in our Countries relationships!! I'm so glad for that.


1,462 posted on 01/23/2006 8:07:30 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: goldstategop; All

Thanks for all your help GS.

:-D

I must go watch PMPM speak to Canadians about values.

After that, I want to watch my new Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, address our nation.


I'll see you all tomorrow. Thanks again everyone!


1,463 posted on 01/23/2006 8:07:34 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: HunterAmor
I have no idea.

I think this was just an trial balloon he was floating because he didn't know what the final results would be.

A BQ-CPC alliance would be interesting.

1,464 posted on 01/23/2006 8:07:36 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Liberals aren't neighborhood people." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: Canadian Outrage

"9:39 - Right now I'd say that the Tories will wind up with about 25 more seats than the Liberals when all is said and done, maybe a couple less. Based on the polls done before the election, that's a better showing than I expected for the Liberals, but there is still no doubt that tonight has been a debacle for Martin and his party. How they could allow the Tories to outpoll them by such a wide margin in Quebec will be the big question of this election. The CPC has taken 36.3% share of the vote, about 5 points up on the Liberals, which is about where SES Research had the election."

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006206.php


1,465 posted on 01/23/2006 8:07:58 PM PST by frankjr
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To: Hoodat

ROFLMAO. There are few things funnier than watching Marxist-Leninists descend into madness.


1,466 posted on 01/23/2006 8:08:00 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Found it. London West.


1,467 posted on 01/23/2006 8:08:03 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: NilesJo

My pleasure. :)


1,468 posted on 01/23/2006 8:08:47 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: jcs1744
You have to remember that 16 months ago, the Conservatives had no chance.

And not only that, but if I recall correctly (not that I know much about Canadian politics), about a decade or so ago, the Conservative Party almost disappeared, right? Quite a comeback.

Congratulations, Canada!

1,469 posted on 01/23/2006 8:08:50 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I've upped my standards! Up yours!)
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To: HunterAmor

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org


1,470 posted on 01/23/2006 8:09:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Skylab

No. What happened is Ipsos' seat model sucks. Just like it did in 2004.


1,471 posted on 01/23/2006 8:09:45 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: slapshot

Yup!! I agree. Manitoba has always had a certain portion that is solidly NDP.


1,472 posted on 01/23/2006 8:10:02 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: TheBigB
CONGRATULATIONS CANADA!!!!
1,473 posted on 01/23/2006 8:10:20 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC. (Seahawks are going to the Superbowl!!))
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To: Seattle Conservative

Yep! A great big congratulations.


1,474 posted on 01/23/2006 8:11:35 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Billthedrill

Thanks ... I just wish Atlantic Canada would have pitched in more.


1,475 posted on 01/23/2006 8:12:27 PM PST by NorthOf45
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10 seats for the Tories in Quebec is incredible and saved the day. Perhaps a Tory resurgency in Quebec. And at least a gain of 14 ridings in Ontario.
1,476 posted on 01/23/2006 8:12:46 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: longtermmemmory
james c. bennett's the anglosphere challenge, anyone?
1,477 posted on 01/23/2006 8:12:59 PM PST by HunterAmor
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To: Koblenz

Not a big surprise, considering most of those Conservatives last time were barely elected.


1,478 posted on 01/23/2006 8:13:00 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: southernnorthcarolina

IIRC, the old Progressive Conservatives dropped to two seats in 1993. That gave rise to the Western-based Reform Party.


1,479 posted on 01/23/2006 8:13:03 PM PST by TheBigB (Time waits for no man. Unless that man is Chuck Norris.)
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To: HunterAmor
I think the media runs push polls.

They are not reliable.

The NDP has made gains in BC because the Conservatives put their big efforts into vote rich Ontario and Quebec.

BC has very few ridings but IMO the Conservatives took the province for granted.

The Liberals were no threat there but the NDP has a strong base of extreme left wingers, with many expat Americans and Euros.

There is good money in Canada and Europe in being an anti-American American.

Just ask Michael Moore.

Fahrenheit 911 was produced by Lions Gate Studio in North Vancouver.

1,480 posted on 01/23/2006 8:13:29 PM PST by concrete is my business (prepare the sub grade, then select the mix design)
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To: Dane
He's a conservative from Port-Neuf, so yes - he'll vote with the Tories. They didn't get a majority this time for the reason that Quebec isn't ready to embrace them yet wholeheartedly but they made a breakthrough in French Canada and if they play their cards right, they can build on it.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1,481 posted on 01/23/2006 8:13:42 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Seattle Conservative

The msnbc.com site has this on the front page:

TILTING RIGHT: Canada's Conservatives, led by Stephen Harper, headed to victory.

CNN.com isn't admitting defeat for its liberal friends just yet...


1,482 posted on 01/23/2006 8:14:15 PM PST by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him. God Bless Canada too!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Electors can register on election day in Canada?


1,483 posted on 01/23/2006 8:14:34 PM PST by Styria
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To: plushaye
ugh... i wish i could say cnn's lack of coverage was astonishing....

but it's not...
1,484 posted on 01/23/2006 8:15:27 PM PST by HunterAmor
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To: HunterAmor

For my part, I could care less if CNN mentions it at all.


1,485 posted on 01/23/2006 8:16:17 PM PST by NorthOf45
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To: Hoodat

Karl Rove is a wonder, isn't he? ;-)


1,486 posted on 01/23/2006 8:16:51 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: goldstategop

Yes it is. And you know the CPC with the Bloc can block any non confidence motion by the Fiberals and the NDP. Martin is NOT in a good situation. The BLOC HATE the Liberals and they are NOT going to give them another chance at an election in 18 months. They will need to suffer out the 5 years. By that time, Martin might move on.


1,487 posted on 01/23/2006 8:16:53 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: HunterAmor

I'm sure they're crying in their beer at CNN central. Cue the schadenfreude graphic :^)


1,488 posted on 01/23/2006 8:17:31 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

That 10 seats means that Harper has the basis for pulling a Dief- spend a couple of years in minority then a landslide.


1,489 posted on 01/23/2006 8:17:35 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (We Acadiens have nothing to do with Québec)
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To: Styria

Register? Who has to register? Just show up with a brand new library card with a local address on it. I did.


1,490 posted on 01/23/2006 8:17:51 PM PST by ccurrie ( visiting from http://www.freedominion.ca)
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To: Canadian Outrage

It's not as big a win as some projected but it is a big win nonetheless.

GO CANADA


1,491 posted on 01/23/2006 8:18:17 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: NorthOf45
Thanks ... I just wish Atlantic Canada would have pitched in more.

Hey congratulations no matter what, the Tories are now in a position to begin repairing the LIEberal damage done to Canada over the past 12+ years, and Atlantic Canada can't be blamed for being so addicted to the Liberal crackpipe that they just can't put it down. It's like the late Richard Pryor and his talking crackpipe, he just couldn't help but listen to it, and obey it.

A few years of Conservative rehabilitation and perhaps there will be hope for the Maritimes.

All in all, I would say a damn good night for Canada.
1,492 posted on 01/23/2006 8:18:34 PM PST by mkjessup (Remember the good ol' days when giving aid and comfort to the enemy was rewarded with a noose?)
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To: Canadian Outrage

I think Martin is toast now. There will probably be a leadership review and he'll be out on his ear. There's no reason to keep him around.


1,493 posted on 01/23/2006 8:19:17 PM PST by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him. God Bless Canada too!)
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To: All

Congratulations my Canadian friends!

'God keep your land glorious and free'!!


1,494 posted on 01/23/2006 8:19:17 PM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: codercpc
Must have Diebold machines.

Yeah, the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy tampered with our pencils. 8-)

1,495 posted on 01/23/2006 8:19:27 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Styria

If that's what Elections Canada's website says, I guess so.


1,496 posted on 01/23/2006 8:20:00 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Canadian Outrage

I have a question about how this sort of works. Even though the COngress has got alot more nationalized alot still has to do with the local guy running. His personality, local issues, etc that often or doesnt have to do with alot with the President or the party agenda. There talking about how the polls were showing a possible conservative majority, Could it be like heae that often people think Republican nationally but might just like the local dem better for some odd reason. In other words people wnated to conservatives to control but for whatever reason they thought their "liberal" represenatives wasnt so bad. I guess do Canadians vote for the party more or do they more lean to vote fort he man or woman as an individual in these ridings


1,497 posted on 01/23/2006 8:20:19 PM PST by bayourant
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To: HunterAmor

I knew the NDP would gain - why do you think B.C. was Martin's LAST stop. He was playing to the NDP. Trying to scare the union worker and doing "anything" to get folks to not support the CPC. He's dirty, and Layto of the NDP has NO credibility. He has flip flopped too many times.


1,498 posted on 01/23/2006 8:20:44 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: conservative in nyc

1,499 posted on 01/23/2006 8:21:24 PM PST by TheBigB (Time waits for no man. Unless that man is Chuck Norris.)
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To: mkjessup

Yes, it's been a very good night overall. On a positive note, we did pick up 2 seats on the East Coast. Thanks for the congrats.


1,500 posted on 01/23/2006 8:21:37 PM PST by NorthOf45
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