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Long-dead lady baffles French (2-year murder investigation reveals that victim died 500 years ago)
Sunday Times (South Africa) ^ | Wednesday January 25, 2006 08:54 - (SA)

Posted on 01/25/2006 9:04:23 AM PST by dead

BREST - French police who spent two years trying to identify a woman who was murdered by a blow to the head were relieved to discover the reason their efforts were failing: the woman died half a millennium ago.

The skeleton of a woman in her 30s was found during an exceptionally low tide in December 2003 near the seaside Brittany town of Plouezoc'h.

A long gash in the skull convinced investigators she was killed with a hatchet or other sharp implement.

Police ploughed through missing persons' files to no avail.

A theory that the woman was the wife of a Normandy doctor who disappeared with his family in a famous 1999 case was dismissed after DNA tests.

Eventually radiocarbon dating established that the death had occurred between 1401 and 1453.

"We are satisfied because at least we know the date now. We reckon it was pirates," said Francois Gerthosser of the Plourin-les-Morlaix police.

Sapa-AFP


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"We are satisfied because at least we know the date now. We reckon it was pirates," said Francois Gerthosser of the Plourin-les-Morlaix police.

Aaaarggh. Always be blaming the pirates.

1 posted on 01/25/2006 9:04:25 AM PST by dead
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To: dead

Lol.


2 posted on 01/25/2006 9:07:13 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: dead

Talk about a cold case.


3 posted on 01/25/2006 9:07:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: dead
"Always be blaming the pirates."

What are pirates so popular?

They just arrrrrrrrrrr.
4 posted on 01/25/2006 9:07:36 AM PST by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: dead
A theory that the woman was the wife of a Normandy doctor who disappeared with his family in a famous 1999 case was dismissed after DNA tests.

They had a skeleton and needed to wait for the DNA for that?

5 posted on 01/25/2006 9:08:12 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: dead

Amazing the body could have survived in water intact for that length of time.


6 posted on 01/25/2006 9:08:27 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: dead
Inspector Clouseau is on the case............
7 posted on 01/25/2006 9:09:09 AM PST by Red Badger (LUKE 22:36 JESUS: "........and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."........)
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To: Brett66
Amazing the body could have survived in water intact for that length of time.

Actually, it didn't survive that long. It was dead all that time. Arrrg! :)

8 posted on 01/25/2006 9:09:46 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: dead
Math question

Is the equation 500 years = half a millennium part of the New Math?
9 posted on 01/25/2006 9:09:47 AM PST by msnimje (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/index.html . FREEP THIS HOURLY!)
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To: Brett66

Maybe it was frozen in a glacier or sumthin.


10 posted on 01/25/2006 9:10:31 AM PST by najida (Purgeing the world of literacy, one typo at a time.)
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To: dead

11 posted on 01/25/2006 9:11:17 AM PST by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: dead

It is because they are opposed to the belief in the Flying Spagetti Monster.


12 posted on 01/25/2006 9:11:43 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Moral Hazard

The only other suspects arrrrrrrr SUV's!


13 posted on 01/25/2006 9:12:27 AM PST by grammarman
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To: Brett66

I've seen pictures, it was really more in the sand.

I would think that would be a pretty good preserver of bones.

And in fairness to the cops, I would think Carbon-14 dating is not in the standard test kit.


14 posted on 01/25/2006 9:13:20 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Brett66
Amazing the body could have survived in water intact for that length of time.

Not everyone trusts radiocarbon dating methods. To be under the water, just below the tideline, for 500 years, and to look "good as new" seems a little hard to believe.

15 posted on 01/25/2006 9:13:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: dead

Avast, ye buggerblaster! Oi never laid me hook on the wench...


16 posted on 01/25/2006 9:14:18 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RMDupree
I think Captain Feathersword has Tourette's Syndrome.

"Oooh! Eeeah! I don't ooh! think I 'ave that! Oooh! Me maties! Eaaah!"

17 posted on 01/25/2006 9:18:43 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

I didn't know the frogs ever said "I reckon". Oui-ha!!


18 posted on 01/25/2006 9:19:37 AM PST by Millee (I've got FRiends in low places...)
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To: msnimje
Is the equation 500 years = half a millennium part of the New Math?

And the old math too. "Mille/Milli"=1000 "ennium/annum"=years.

19 posted on 01/25/2006 9:28:13 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. <<<Sarasmom is a F'n lunatic - Beware>>>)
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To: dead

*laughing*

You may be on to something!


20 posted on 01/25/2006 9:33:47 AM PST by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Millee
"I didn't know the frogs ever said "I reckon"."

Just in the south of France...

21 posted on 01/25/2006 9:36:19 AM PST by Redbob
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To: theDentist

22 posted on 01/25/2006 9:38:34 AM PST by FreedomFarmer (Beyond the sidewalks, past the pavement, in the real America.)
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To: dead

She would probably be dead by now, anyway, even if she hadn't been hit in the head.


23 posted on 01/25/2006 9:39:48 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: dead

Where was George Bush between 1401 and 1453?


24 posted on 01/25/2006 9:41:17 AM PST by JIM O
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; aculeus

And where were you guys the night of April 12, 1410???


25 posted on 01/25/2006 9:41:55 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: dead

"Eventually radiocarbon dating established that the death had occurred between 1401 and 1453."

Soon to be documented on an episode of 'Cold Case'.


26 posted on 01/25/2006 9:43:37 AM PST by WmCraven_Wk
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To: dead

We prefer the term Buccaneer-Americans...


27 posted on 01/25/2006 9:44:26 AM PST by The Clemson Tiger (Hold that Tiger!)
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To: dead

"Never mind."

28 posted on 01/25/2006 9:48:02 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: Arthur McGowan

And you wonder why the teacher moved your desk to the back of the classroom every year....


29 posted on 01/25/2006 9:50:50 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: FreedomFarmer

Dang! Twinkies DO last forever!


30 posted on 01/25/2006 9:54:26 AM PST by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: WmCraven_Wk

>>
Soon to be documented on an episode of 'Cold Case'.
<<

Rich white guy did it.


31 posted on 01/25/2006 9:55:08 AM PST by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: dead
ARRRRGHHH!!!

Twasn't me crew, headin' for Jamaica we were...


32 posted on 01/25/2006 9:58:20 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (13th AF, 3rd TFW, 3rd AGS, 3rd AMU - ESC The Blue Screw will get you too! 86-89)
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To: dead

We RECKON it was pirates??? LOL! This does not sound like something a frenchman would say.


33 posted on 01/25/2006 10:01:41 AM PST by lawgirl ("You can try to wipe the memories aside, but it's you that you erase..." Honestly- Billy Corgan)
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To: Moral Hazard

Ninjas >>> Pirates


34 posted on 01/25/2006 10:12:59 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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35 posted on 01/25/2006 10:20:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: dead
Scott Peterson should have tried the "pirates" defense.
36 posted on 01/25/2006 10:39:42 AM PST by Physicist
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To: jwfiv

Bizarre ping.


37 posted on 01/25/2006 10:43:09 AM PST by Serb5150 (Mr. T is allergic to doorknobs. That's why he can only kick through doors.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agreed.


38 posted on 01/25/2006 10:45:29 AM PST by Blogger
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To: dead

Did he really say "reckon?"


39 posted on 01/25/2006 10:46:58 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Brett66
Maybe the body just got loose from a peat bog or deep mud where it has been kept preserved. Good grief. At this rate perhaps someday a dino will wash up in South Beach.
40 posted on 01/25/2006 10:48:18 AM PST by A knight without armor
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To: msnimje
Is the equation 500 years = half a millennium part of the New Math?

You mean 500 years does NOT equal half a millennium?

41 posted on 01/25/2006 10:51:04 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Not everyone trusts radiocarbon dating methods.

That's right, it came up with the incorrect answer on the Shroud of Turin.

42 posted on 01/25/2006 10:51:25 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: The Clemson Tiger

We're really sorry, we had no idea you guys were still around.


43 posted on 01/25/2006 10:52:58 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Semi-Millenium Madness


44 posted on 01/25/2006 10:53:08 AM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: lawgirl

Brits say "reckon", but it doesn't sound the same as when a US Southernor says it. Maybe the froggie learnt English English.


45 posted on 01/25/2006 10:54:13 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: dead

Nothing gets by the French.


46 posted on 01/25/2006 10:55:15 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: CaptRon

Except the Germans.


47 posted on 01/25/2006 10:56:34 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

LMAO!


48 posted on 01/25/2006 10:58:32 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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same fate befell her great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.

Swedish bog man murdered - 700 years ago
The Local | 24th January 2006 | Sweden's News in English editor
Posted on 01/25/2006 10:57:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1564810/posts


49 posted on 01/25/2006 11:00:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: dead

Inspector Clouseau presents: "Cold Case Files", part XCVVIX


50 posted on 01/25/2006 11:01:45 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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