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David Ludwig Pleads NOT GUILTY in Lititz Slaying of Teen Girlfriend's Parents
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 1/26/06 | AP

Posted on 01/26/2006 6:41:13 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta

An 18-year-old Lititz man pleaded NOT GUILTY to two counts of criminal homicide in the shooting deaths of his girlfriend's parents - a case that sparked a national manhunt when he fled the state with the 14-year-old girl.

David Ludwig also waived his right to an arraignment, which had been scheduled for yesterday, according to papers filed in Lancaster County Court late Tuesday afternoon.

Ludwig, who is being held without bail, is accused of gunning down Michael and Cathryn Borden inside their Lititz home Nov. 13 after Michael Borden ordered him to stop seeing their daughter, Kara Beth. Ludwig could get the death penalty if convicted.

The girl, who was not charged, fled the state with Ludwig after the shooting. She was with him when he was captured in Indiana the following day after he crashed his car into a tree while being chased by police.

Ludwig admitted to the killings, authorities have said. He allegedly told detectives that he and Kara, both of whom were home-schooled, wanted to "get as far away as possible" and get married, but that she was not involved in planning and carrying out the killings. Ludwig also pleaded not guilty to a charge of reckless endangerment.

Merrill Spahn, a lawyer who is part of a court-appointed defense team, said Ludwig will also plead not guilty to statutory sexual assault and to carrying a handgun without a permit, additional charges that were filed in December.

Ludwig's trial is scheduled to begin Sept. 5.


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KEYWORDS: davidludwig; ludwig

1 posted on 01/26/2006 6:41:16 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

There is no point to pleading guilty unless they offer you a deal. They're not going to do that with this guy.


2 posted on 01/26/2006 6:54:46 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

What's the point of pleading not guilty when he confessed?


4 posted on 01/26/2006 7:03:10 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport
I just can't imagine what that poor young girl must be going through. I pray to God that she does not blame herself.

The girl was defiant and has a lot to learn. (Did you get the 15K?)

5 posted on 01/26/2006 7:07:09 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport
I just can't imagine what that poor young girl must be going through. I pray to God that she does not blame herself.

I see you just signed up on FreeRepublic. I hope you are not a troll. You're just being sarcastic here, right???

6 posted on 01/26/2006 7:08:55 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
He allegedly told detectives that he and Kara, both of whom were home-schooled,

Oh! Home-schooled, eh? That explaines it. Glad they pointed that out for me.

7 posted on 01/26/2006 7:12:16 PM PST by Yeti ("He might be drunk!")
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To: Gondring; wouldntbprudent

Ping


8 posted on 01/26/2006 7:17:04 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

The girl, who was not charged,...

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Why has she not been charged? Surely, she heard the shots he fired. Even if she did not know beforehand, she must have known after he killed her parents.


9 posted on 01/26/2006 7:23:48 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: newgeezer; MizSterious

Ping


10 posted on 01/26/2006 7:23:59 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: Yeti

Yep, Home-Schooled, I expect to be murdered by my kids anytime now!


11 posted on 01/26/2006 7:24:24 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport

I just can't imagine what that poor young girl must be going through. I pray to God that she does not blame herself.

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She darn well should blame herself. Even if she did not help him plan it she ran off with him after he had just murdered her parents.


12 posted on 01/26/2006 7:25:07 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Boazo

Yep, Home-Schooled,...

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Well, of course. And her parents raised her Christian, too, so I guess they were just askin' for it. /s


13 posted on 01/26/2006 7:26:54 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: G.Mason; Ditter; sport; CindyDawg; AnAmericanMother; Kozak; LucyT; Lonesome in Massachussets; ...

Ping


14 posted on 01/26/2006 7:34:25 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport
I just can't imagine what that poor young girl must be going through. I pray to God that she does not blame herself.

You gotta be joking. From what I've heard she knew what was going down. She is just as guilty as he is. If she is suffering from guilt it is because she is guilty.

15 posted on 01/26/2006 7:39:52 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever

I heard someone here once post this: How many here at Free Republic would have said "Darn right I'll throw the first stone, the woman's a harlot".


16 posted on 01/26/2006 8:03:49 PM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: Yeti

"Home-schooled, eh? That explaines it."

Hey, at least these kids were probably actually homeschooled for many years. This story is at least not like hearing about some toddlers (whose family has ended up in a mess) being "homeschooled".


17 posted on 01/26/2006 9:00:46 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Bigg Red


I believe Kara Borden will be charged. Ludwig said he was looking to her for a signal before he shot her parents. She did not give a signal. Probably one blink from her would have saved her parents.
My opinion, this is one out of control child who thinks she's a woman. She is nothing more than a delinquent juvenile. She has proven she can deceive and lie.

She has stood by while her lover took the parents of her siblings, these children have been through more than most people will go through in a lifetime. I don't know how they could stand to be near their sister Kara.

I just hope the whole truth comes out before this selfish girl ruins some other family.


18 posted on 01/26/2006 9:12:33 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport
Are you serious? If so, would you please explain why you believe this girl should not assume any blame.

Despite the fact that the authorities have not charged her with any complicity in the crime, going on what's been published, I can't see how a rational human being, even at her age, could convince themselves that they played no role at all in the murder of their parents.

What am I getting wrong here?

19 posted on 01/26/2006 11:51:01 PM PST by IIntense
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I guess the defense is depending on the "poor little boy" defense or somehow feel they can suppress the voluminous evidence against him.

Or maybe his parents are in the mix and are insisting he plead not guilty, maybe as a way to save face for them.

I disagree with the posters who say there is no reason to plead guilty unless the accused is offered a deal. Pleading guilty when it is obvious you are guilty allows you to plead for mercy---i.e.,you accepted responsibility, have remorse and now ask for mercy. This is most likely to work in a case such as this one.

When the accused doesn't plead guilty and there is loads of evidence against him, this just ticks off the judge and jury. Why did I sit here for four weeks (or more) listening to this garbage? Is the accused not remorseful at all? Why didn't he just take responsibility for the crime he obviously committed? It certainly can reduce sympathy for a clearly guilty defendant.

Unless, of course, you are O.J.


20 posted on 01/27/2006 7:45:12 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: agrace; bboop; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; DaveLoneRanger; dawn53; ...
Ping to the Home Educators!

he and Kara, both of whom were home-schooled

When will we ever read an article that says, "the killer, who was public-schooled..."

21 posted on 01/27/2006 8:21:23 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: chae

You got Audio Free Republic? Cool.


22 posted on 01/27/2006 8:29:04 AM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
What's the point of pleading not guilty when he confessed?

He's hoping that there's at least one idiot sitting on his jury.

I'd take that bet.

23 posted on 01/27/2006 8:30:31 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I sincerely hope she DOES blame herself. And learns a lot. She was defiant, she was angry and head-strong, and acting on that kind of self-righteousness often leads to very dire consequences. She learned it young and the hard way. She is NOT an innocent victim of this, imho.


24 posted on 01/27/2006 8:42:20 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport
"I pray to God that she does not blame herself."

She doesn't have to "blame herself"; there are many people who do.

25 posted on 01/27/2006 8:56:09 AM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: Tired of Taxes
When will we ever read an article that says, "the killer, who was public-schooled..."

Probably never since the home school bashers all drink from the dumbed-down public education fountain. They'll continue to be deaf, dumb and blind while considering themselves to be elites who know it all.

26 posted on 01/27/2006 8:57:30 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport

There's more to this story than meets the eye. This young lady could be as guilty as her BF.

BTW, Welcome to FR! (I read through your posts and notice no one else bothered.)


27 posted on 01/27/2006 9:28:08 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: fabriclady

I believe Kara Borden will be charged.

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I hope you are right. She is just as guilty as he is.


28 posted on 01/27/2006 9:52:26 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: wouldntbprudent
When the accused doesn't plead guilty and there is loads of evidence against him, this just ticks off the judge and jury. Why did I sit here for four weeks (or more) listening to this garbage? Is the accused not remorseful at all? Why didn't he just take responsibility for the crime he obviously committed? It certainly can reduce sympathy for a clearly guilty defendant.

Since he already confessed, it makes no sense to plead not guilty. IMO

29 posted on 01/27/2006 10:41:41 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: fabriclady
I don't know how they could stand to be near their sister Kara.

Newspaper articles haven't commented on where the kids are and if they're together.

30 posted on 01/27/2006 10:45:19 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: mewzilla
He's hoping that there's at least one idiot sitting on his jury. I'd take that bet.

His lawyers will be hoping to put several on the jury.

31 posted on 01/27/2006 10:47:10 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

"He's hoping that there's at least one idiot sitting on his jury. I'd take that bet.
His lawyers will be hoping to put several on the jury.

I read one article, I believe it was in the Lancaster news, that said insanity is one plan. Seems there is some sort of disorder that runs in his family. I read the article but can't recall all the details. He has a sister with downs syndrone, seems like that was a link to the insanity plea.
I think he is just cold hearted, selfish, spoiled, arrogant and just plain mean. That is blunt, but my feelings exactly.
Also, he must have thought he was smarter that the legal system. He had bragged to friends that he thought he could kill someone and get away with it. Well, we see how far he got.


32 posted on 01/27/2006 11:51:09 AM PST by fabriclady
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To: Bigg Red
And as arrogant as he is.
I don't doubt for a second that they discussed what they would do if her parents refused them to be together.

She is nothing less than a delinquent juvenile and should have some form of punishment. When she testifies against Ludwig, he may let go of his protection of her. Then the truth will come out. There are lots of rumors, note I said rumors, that she is pregnant.
33 posted on 01/27/2006 11:57:59 AM PST by fabriclady
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"Newspaper articles haven't commented on where the kids are and if they're together."

I read an article, may have been a post on Talk back, that Kara was with relatives in Missouri and the two young siblings are in the Lancaster area with relatives.
I do pray that the siblings of Kara have a good family to rear them. They will need a lot of love and most surly hugs to get them through.
34 posted on 01/27/2006 12:02:42 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: fabriclady
When she testifies against Ludwig, he may let go of his protection of her. Then the truth will come out.

I'll be interested to see what she says in court. Maybe by then, she'll have some idea of what she did.

35 posted on 01/27/2006 12:14:30 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Agreed. Unless the defense is supremely confident they can have the confession suppressed, pleading "not guilty" is not a good move.


36 posted on 01/27/2006 1:04:10 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

This is a comment from Lancasteronline

"Ludwig's plea of not guilty is a "procedural formality," meaning that this is a common practice. It also says that the plea doesn't mean that's what he's going to plead when he goes before a judge, nor does it even mean there's going to be a trial."

Seems like a lot of things in PA are different. And, he has already admitted guilt. Seems odd to me.


37 posted on 01/27/2006 1:29:35 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: fabriclady

good info


38 posted on 01/27/2006 1:45:04 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: fabriclady

You are totally right. This kid made a decision to kill, because he wanted what he couldn't have, and then he was arrogant enough to think he could get away with it. Murder. Bad decision -- choose evil, reap huge consequences. Hopefully he will.


39 posted on 01/28/2006 9:17:41 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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A lot of post I read blame the killing on the parents of Ludwig. My opinion they may have been lax with the guns. This could have been because he talked like a Christian and before them acted exactly like a good Christian. I feel very sorry for the parents. Their only son will never be free. I have two son's, age 45 & 50. I try to imagine what it would be like to lose a son in this evil manner. You know, I draw a blank, I can't even imagine it. I have a grandson that is 6. I pray for a good and loving future for him.
40 posted on 01/28/2006 12:48:37 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: iamowed15Kforsupport
To your post 42: No apologizes necessary. From any news I've read generating in Lititz, Kara gets no blame for the tragedy.

Some, like I, are not willing to give her a free pass which says she holds no responsibility at all for what occurred. I hope I am not being vindictive...I do not take pleasure in any part of this tragedy.

Tough as it is, though, we have to take responsibility for what we do. Wouldn't we all like to escape the pain of absolutely knowing we erred...we did it?

If Kara has a working conscience, she will pay for any part she had in this crime. No one has to condemn her. She will prosecute herself.

42 posted on 01/28/2006 10:24:46 PM PST by IIntense
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