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Sonofusion Experiment Produces Results Without External Neutron Source
PhysOrg ^ | January 27, 2006

Posted on 01/27/2006 9:32:09 PM PST by ckilmer

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To: Don Joe
If you talk to some "in the business" type "nuke guys" you will find out that the Fusor is not only real, but very well known working technology.

Reminds me of a New Yorker cartoon: an executive type is talking on the phone and says,
"A billion is a thousand million ? Why wasn't I informed of this ?"

61 posted on 01/28/2006 1:27:12 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: ckilmer

Having been involved in the new energy field now for several years, a few things are obvious. Many flashes in the pan that go no where. Dissipation of resources, many promising leads going no where, lost in the shouting crowd for investor monies. Many dead ends like the hydrogen economy(where does the energy come from in the FIRST place to produce H2?). Deadly fission plants, the core of the iranian problem. Big oil of course throws every obstacle in our way, no business ever funds its competitor and so politicians run off at the mouth about freedom from foreign oil but, since they are OWNED by big oil, you'll NEVER see them helping. Like Jesus said : lawyers, liers, pharisees : you load burdens on other men's backs but won't lift a finger to help. But consider this : a fantastic new energy source arrives, do you give it to EVERYONE? Idiots, children, terrorists; what will they, in their ignorance or malice, do with it? Or AG? Picture BILLIONS of poor, starving third worlders landing on YOUR lawn, stripping everything you own BARE, with this magic flying carpet(technology)you gave them? Do you see then how TOO MUCH energy is as bad as too little? It leads quickly to the extermination of the human race, not its salvation...


62 posted on 01/28/2006 2:02:36 PM PST by timer
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To: SteveMcKing

The demand for better and better, the idea that there is something greater out there has propelled such luminaries as Galileo, Columbus and Einstein; and this drive will perhaps propel man to the stars. Of course, as you imply, it may also assist us on our road to perdition.


63 posted on 01/28/2006 3:15:57 PM PST by sono (Ted Kennedy's naming his dog Splash is like Jack Abramoff naming his dog Bribe.)
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To: Don Joe; dr_lew
The Farnsworth Fuser, as explained by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth:

The Farnsworth Fuser!
64 posted on 01/28/2006 6:02:03 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: SteveMcKing

If we can survive this decade, we may be energy independent yet.

Nice as that is, I've begun to theorize that solving any such problem creates many more to fight about. People will always demand more and better stuff at the cost of freedom, taxes, and civility.

Therefore, the problem is not energy- but those who are never happy in life and constantly complaining about things...
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the federal research budget on alternate energy research runs about 1.5 billion spread over 4 years. The federal research budget on nanotechnology run 1+ billion every year.

imho the alternate energy solutions will come from nano technology as materials reasearchers find better faster smarter materials for catalysts, semipermiable membranes & hydrogen storage.


I enjoy reading the flow of research on this stuff. imho we're within five years of some major major technological break throughs.


65 posted on 01/28/2006 6:16:05 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

What's your take on superconduction? I've always had a childish dream of building hugh nuclear plants out in the desert where nobody will complain, but then you'd need to transmit the power... using some new ceramics, perhaps.


66 posted on 01/28/2006 7:10:34 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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I think that will have to wait for a major major breakthrough in materials research coming in a couple years.

Currently what's happening in materials research is that scientists can run models of molecules and then run simulations of combinations of molecules until they find a combination that they like. and then they shake and bake it into existance.

I think that really cheap high temperature superconducting materials will have to wait until the next generation math for materials comes out. I've seen a couple papers in the last several months from one of the ivy's in the north east. The papers were involved with doing the math to create algorithms that will enable programmers to directly specify the characteristics of a material they want to build and then shake and bake it into existance.

Man when that happens the world changes in a flash. It'll be just like a frigging house has dropped on the world and the present age will be like the witch in the wizard of oz when the house drops on the witch and all that's left of her that we can see are her shriveling feet.


67 posted on 01/28/2006 7:34:48 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
It'll be just like a frigging house has dropped on the world and the present age will be like the witch in the wizard of oz when the house drops on the witch and all that's left of her that we can see are her shriveling feet.

That's what they all say... In any case the same things are happening in biotech. Genomics, proteomics, modelling of proteins, enzymes, target drugs, and other computational biology - all thanks to computers.

There were traditional biologists who resisted these tools... If we had listened to them we'd still be at the start of the Human Genome project, an estimated 300-year process of using dideoxy chain termination to sequence DNA. Celera did it in 2 years!

68 posted on 01/28/2006 7:48:24 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: ckilmer

"Man when that happens the world changes in a flash. It'll be just like a frigging house has dropped on the world and the present age will be like the witch in the wizard of oz when the house drops on the witch and all that's left of her that we can see are her shriveling feet."

Sounds like a winner...but will the common cold be expunged?


69 posted on 01/28/2006 11:09:08 PM PST by Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe (15, 16, 18...whatever!)
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To: timer

not unlike Intelligent Design being fought by the Science establishment.


70 posted on 01/28/2006 11:19:43 PM PST by balch3
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To: Owen
"will it come from the US fusion research budget."

This isn't about fusion as an energy source. The thing runs at room temp. That means any fusion reaction is quenched immediately. At most, this device might be good for a neutron source for diagnostic testing purposes. That's it. It's a small niche market item. Right now, the beaker's output is 3x the background radiation around you now.

71 posted on 01/28/2006 11:29:39 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Oh, I agree with that, but that doesn't matter. If fusion is in the conversation, you can rest assured it will be in the research grant applications and those will be sent to the folks who dole out fusion money. That makes it a threat to the fusion empires.


72 posted on 01/29/2006 6:28:16 AM PST by Owen
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To: Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe

Sounds like a winner...but will the common cold be expunged?

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no probably not. but then I don't know as much about what's happening in biotech except that there are similiar tools. Still, if I were to hazard a guess I would guess no because colds are caused by so many different viruses and viruses can likely mutate pretty quickly ... so as fast as a cure for a particular bug could be developed a new one would pop up.


73 posted on 01/29/2006 11:20:19 AM PST by ckilmer
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