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Jed Babbin: Rockefeller IS the source of the leak on the NSA wiretaps..will he take a polygraph?
John Batchelor program..WABC radio

Posted on 02/03/2006 8:47:20 PM PST by ken5050

Turned on the radio, happened to catch the last segment of the John Batchelor show. He was interviewing Jeb Babbin....who many of us know and respect, and read his columns. I was absolutely stunned by what Babbin just said...hadn't seen/heard it anywheres..and thought it merits reposting for your benefit....


TOPICS: US: West Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 109th; babbin; batchelor; jayrockefeller; jedbabbin; johnbatchelor; leaks; nsa; spying; talkradio; traitor
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This is pretty much a verbatim recall...

The topic was the hearings that start on Monday. Babbin said that he had spent much of today talking on backkground with his sources in the intelligence community. He said flat out that they know that Rockefeller is the source of the leak to the NY Times.

The administration is not sure how to proceed. Babbin doesn't think they have the guts to indict a US senator. He said it would cause a battle royal on the Hill, if not a constitutional crisis.

He did say however, that any senator or Congressional staffer that holds a security clearance can be asked at any time to take a polygraph. The individual can of course refuse to take the test, but failure to do so is reason to remove that person's security clearance.

Babbin said further that Rockefeller, Durbin, and Wyden, and some on their staffs will soon be requested to take polygraphs.

If indeed this is true, it has obviously staggering implications. You would have the co-chair of the Senate Intelligence committee unable to in effect, do anything..

Comments......?

Note: There is something, which, IMHO, gives this story a great deal of credibility. If you happened to see any of the committee hearing this week at which Negroponte and Goss testified, right before the hearing ended, Rockefeller made what seemed at the time to be an idiotic statement. He said that he expected that the source of the leaks would turn out to be the Executive Branch...i.e. the White House. Negroponte looked at him like he (Rockefeller) was deranged..It made NO sense to me at the time...but now, with these comments...it makes a lot of sense..he's trying to deflect what he expects is coming his way....Possibly someone can dig up the heatring transcript and post Rockefeller's comments..

1 posted on 02/03/2006 8:47:23 PM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

I can't see it being the senators themselves - they would order someone on their staffs to leak it.


2 posted on 02/03/2006 8:49:25 PM PST by oceanview
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To: ken5050

give them all tests until you find the leaker.


3 posted on 02/03/2006 8:49:58 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: ken5050
Babbin said further that Rockefeller, Durbin, and Wyden, and some on their staffs will soon be requested to take polygraphs.

Not holding my breath, but this would be better than (a) Lewinsky!

4 posted on 02/03/2006 8:50:32 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: ken5050
I'm SHOCKED... Shocked I tell you!

Yeah, right... SHOCKED!

5 posted on 02/03/2006 8:50:33 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: oceanview

A lie detector can find out if they put their staff up to it, if so they are guilty also.


6 posted on 02/03/2006 8:50:59 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: ken5050

Hasn't Jaybird sung before? I seem to recall his involvement in something similar.

As for that lisping Wyden and Turbin Durbin, it makes me sick that they're privy to national security secrets.


7 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:35 PM PST by onyx
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To: ken5050

Let Jack Bauer do the investigation. HE WILL find out the truth....


8 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:38 PM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: ken5050

bump


9 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:44 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ken5050

Jay will be given a chance to fall on his sword gracefully. imho.


10 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:53 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: abner; Mo1; Howlin

Several FReepers predicted this... I can't remember who...


11 posted on 02/03/2006 8:52:50 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: ken5050


Oh, and your French toast was excellent...lol.


12 posted on 02/03/2006 8:53:22 PM PST by onyx
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To: ken5050
Now we know why rockefeller was trying to point the finger of blame at the WH,as the leakers.

rockefeller has done irreparable damage to the intelligence community and must be charged if he is found to be the leaker. It`s obviously a left-winger somewhere.
13 posted on 02/03/2006 8:53:26 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: ken5050

Dang...I meant to listen to Batchelor's show and forgot...and I LOVE Jeb Babbin.

Okay....I sort of understand why the Bush wouldn't want the "hassle" of trying to indict a sitting Senator...especially one that is the Ranking Member of the Intelligence Committee...BUT...

If they can find someone who can/will testify to Rocky's involvement in getting this stuff to Risen or the NYTimes...then Bush would have no choice.

He is responsible for keeping this country safe...and if a Senator is working against him on this...then he must be removed, and if he broke a law in the process...then he must be adjudicated..

My gosh...look at Libby...


14 posted on 02/03/2006 8:54:17 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: ken5050

bump


15 posted on 02/03/2006 8:54:57 PM PST by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: oceanview

Babbin is very cautious...he said flat out , as I wrote..they know it is Rockefeller...


16 posted on 02/03/2006 8:55:02 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: onyx; ken5050; Mo1; kcvl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1554793/posts


17 posted on 02/03/2006 8:55:04 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: oceanview
I can't see it being the senators themselves - they would order someone on their staffs to leak it.

Doing so would allow a staff member to blackmail him. If he is the leaker, I'd bet he'd keep it from his staff.

18 posted on 02/03/2006 8:55:09 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: OXENinFLA; Howlin

FYI


19 posted on 02/03/2006 8:56:15 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: abner

Take your pick:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=rockefeller

My money has always been on him.


20 posted on 02/03/2006 8:56:44 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: ken5050

How delicious if they could nail Rockefeller! Probably a long shot but what the h*ll, a girl's gotta dream!


21 posted on 02/03/2006 8:57:12 PM PST by CAluvdubya (The ignorant defeatocrats have declared war on the War On Terror!)
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To: kcvl; Sam Hill; RedBloodedAmerican; Peach

Ping.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 8:57:24 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: ken5050

January 9th:

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2006/01/rockefeller-did-you-teller.html


23 posted on 02/03/2006 8:57:39 PM PST by LucyT (All terrorist are muslim.)
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To: ken5050
The administration is not sure how to proceed. Babbin doesn't think they have the guts to indict a US senator. He said it would cause a battle royal on the Hill, if not a constitutional crisis.

If they don't now, on this, they might as well forget about ever trying to any thing else.

They gave all the Clinton corruption a pass.

Jay Rockerfeller was also the Senator who made a fast trip to Syria and the ME not long before the invasion of Iraq, too.
24 posted on 02/03/2006 8:57:54 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Howlin

Thanks...sounds like Babbin is being used, willingly, to ratchet up the pressure on Rockefeller, and the Dems, in advance of the hearing..


25 posted on 02/03/2006 8:58:15 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Echo Talon

"A lie detector can find out if they put their staff up to it, if so they are guilty also."

Exactly, and it wouldn't surprise me at all. This sounds like it could have legs.


26 posted on 02/03/2006 8:58:29 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: ken5050
He's got a track record of shooting off his mouth while trying to sink the USA


27 posted on 02/03/2006 8:58:41 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Echo Talon
give them all tests until you find the leaker.

Intelligence tests? Fertility tests? What are you looking for?

28 posted on 02/03/2006 8:58:52 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: ken5050
I said that Rockefeller was the probable source of the leak already back on January 1st.
29 posted on 02/03/2006 8:58:53 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ken5050

The prospect of Durbin, Rockefeller and Wyden refusing to take a polygraph makes smile REAL BIG.


;OD


30 posted on 02/03/2006 8:59:27 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Echo Talon
A lie detector can find out if they put their staff up to it, if so they are guilty also.

Not to be a skunk at the party, but lie detector results are not admissable in court, which means there is reasonable doubt as to their efficacy.

This is high stakes poker, if, indeed, Babin's story has any validity. The administration has to have Rockefeller dead to rights to fire this silver bullet. Otherwise, an unverifiable accusation against a sitting Senator of the opposite party could swing the momentum that is now in Bush's favor on NSA surveillance completely against him.

Besides, if the Judith Miller precedent holds, Rockefeller knows--if, indeed, he is the leaker--that he is completely at the mercy of James Rosen and Rosen's desire to spend time in the hoosegow in defense of him.

31 posted on 02/03/2006 8:59:32 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: ken5050

When do they start?


32 posted on 02/03/2006 8:59:42 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: CAluvdubya

Sick Jack Bauer on him!! If he is exposed the people will vote him out.

Pray for W and Our Amazing Troops


33 posted on 02/03/2006 9:00:02 PM PST by bray (Jack Bauer '08)
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To: Howlin


bttt

I want everyone involved NAILED.

In public.


34 posted on 02/03/2006 9:00:11 PM PST by onyx
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To: ken5050

"Who will not rid me of this turbulent priest!"

Sorry,my favorite CYA line of all time.

Of course Rockefeeler will never be convicted of anything. You don't become a US Senator without learning how to cover your tracks.

Doesn't mean we can't try...


35 posted on 02/03/2006 9:01:11 PM PST by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: Doe Eyes
Intelligence tests? Fertility tests? What are you looking for?

yea check his sperm, WTF... :)

36 posted on 02/03/2006 9:02:03 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: ken5050

You're right about Babbin----he is trustworthy and sharp. I'm not a huge fan of Batchelor but Babbin is stand-up.


37 posted on 02/03/2006 9:02:04 PM PST by wolf24 (Rat 2006 Slogan: "Impeach Bush for listening to conversations between terrorists!")
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To: ken5050

Not that I'm tooting my own horn here or anything. He is the author of the "memo" and he is on the intel committee and he is a world-class dirtbag.....

38 posted on 02/03/2006 9:02:17 PM PST by yooling (I don't have anything nice to say...)
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To: ken5050
Babbin doesn't think they have the guts to indict a US senator. He said it would cause a battle royal on the Hill, if not a constitutional crisis.

Trying to envision "President Bush" and "constitutional crisis" in a single sentence...
Nope. This administration couldn't even punish Sandy Burger, they're not going to take on a senator.

39 posted on 02/03/2006 9:02:23 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: sinkspur

Ok, skunk,...lol... the point is to make him refuse to take the polygraph. Let him dance and deny.


40 posted on 02/03/2006 9:04:02 PM PST by onyx
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To: FreedomCalls

Concur...I read the suspicions..but there is a big differnece when someone comes out and says it in the record..as just happened toniught..and it does explain Rockefeller's weird statement accusing the WH of the leaks..


41 posted on 02/03/2006 9:04:12 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: sinkspur

unless he used a cell phone to talk to Rosen, or some other telephone or email mechanism that is traceable.


42 posted on 02/03/2006 9:05:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sinkspur

Yeh.

Sandy Bergler was caught with classified documents stuffed in his pants and socks, and he admitted destroying some others, and all he got was a slap on the wrist, a small fine, and the loss of his security clearance for 3 years (if I remember right).


43 posted on 02/03/2006 9:06:08 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Graymatter
How about just naming Rocky as an unindicted co-conspirator? That would be a nice little albatross to toss around his neck.
44 posted on 02/03/2006 9:06:34 PM PST by zook
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To: Txsleuth

I never listen to him. I turned in early, with a book, and put the radio on to catch up on the pre-SB hype...it was on WABC from Rush today..so I hear this, and I'm amazed..


45 posted on 02/03/2006 9:07:11 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: onyx
Perhaps the point, as has been pointed out, is to use various surrogates to make Rockefeller sweat, and make a mistake.

I've always thought that "letter" that he wrote to himself was composed post-December 16 and was phony as hell. But, in reading macsblog, apparently Risen knew about it while writing his book.

46 posted on 02/03/2006 9:07:37 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Echo Talon

I wish very bad things for Jay


47 posted on 02/03/2006 9:08:14 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: ken5050

It brings up interesting points. What if there are actual traitors, people who hate this country and will commit treason to destroy it? The left of course will cry McCarthyism in an attempt to discredit the idea of treason.

The left never quits.

Does anybody in the government have the balls to prosecute these traitors? I can hardly wait to hear the hue and cry from Hollywood and the MSM if they should try.


48 posted on 02/03/2006 9:08:44 PM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: Doe Eyes
"Intelligence tests? Fertility tests? What are you looking for?"

Brain scans for all!

49 posted on 02/03/2006 9:08:50 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ken5050

bttt


50 posted on 02/03/2006 9:09:15 PM PST by nopardons
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