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Got that synching feeling? Read my lips...(Union may force pop stars to admit they're lip-synching)
Reuters ^ | 2/03/06 | By Paul Majendie

Posted on 02/04/2006 1:06:28 PM PST by sully777

LONDON (Reuters) - After an infamous tiff between Elton John and Madonna over lip-synching, Britain's Musicians' Union has called on performers to come clean -- audiences should be told if they are miming rather than singing.

The union is urging promoters, producers and artists to back its campaign for lip-synching to be clearly labeled during TV shows, in pop arenas and on stage.

"Stand up and be honest about it. We won't knock you for using recordings," said union spokesman Keith Ames, wearied by the sight of bands with miming singers backed by guitarists going through the motions to a recorded track.

"If we are going to sell British music around the world, we cannot go out without a genuine product. You cannot sell artificiality to the Europeans and the Americans. They will see through it immediately."

The union suggested that a lip-synching logo could be flashed up on television or on posters and tickets for shows.

"This campaign is to reward performers who have the talent to perform live and give it a human edge," Ames said. "In a funny sort of way, people like the odd bum note. It gives them a sense of the moment."

He stressed that the union was in no way opposed to the use of technology, especially in smaller theatres where the producers could not afford to pay for a full orchestra.

"This is about consumers knowing what they are buying into," he said.

The issue hit the headlines when British pop veteran Elton John took a swipe at Madonna, saying she cheated her fans by miming on stage.

Collecting a song-writing award in 2004, he suddenly launched into a tirade against Madonna when he discovered she had been nominated for Best Live Act.

"Anyone who lip-synchs in public on stage when you pay 75 pounds to see them should be shot," John said. Madonna swiftly denied lip-synching and pointedly said she did not spend her time trashing other artists.

The union campaign was launched on BBC Television's "The Culture Show" with a poll showing that 71 percent of those questioned backed its stance.

The campaign has also won backing from singer Beverley Knight who told the program: "What I can't bear more than anything are those who are more than capable of delivering a show live with musicians and the whole thing and who don't."

Malcolm McClaren, former manager of the Sex Pistols, agreed, complaining "There isn't enough authenticity in the pop industry. It is karaoke culture."

But Faye Tozer, a singer with the now disbanded pop group Steps, defended lip-synching that helped them cope with a punishing schedule. "We did it to get our product out," she said.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ashleysimpson; buyerbeware; fake; honest; lipsynch; liveormemorex; millivanilli; moneysworth; thenamesashleeeeee; whoozamusician
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To: lawnguy
What was the Elton John/Madonna tiff?

Ball count. They couldn't agree on two, four or none.

51 posted on 02/05/2006 3:53:40 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: MarkL; dmz
For one thing, most "strats" that you see big names playing bear only a superficial resemblance to the kind of thing you buy off the shelf. Inside, everything is usually customized.

For another thing, for "soulful" of "bluesey," the best sound you will get live is one click down from the neck position on the pickup switch. In that position, you are playing the neck and center pickups together. The way strats are wired, in that position, the pickups are connected in what's called "pseudo-humbucking mode." That's right, your favorite live sound on a strat comes from a spread-out humbucker! Single-coils are noisy.

This from a guy who has only ever owned strats or strat-style guitars. Strat body-style and neck are good(all I've ever owned), but they benefit alot from modification.

52 posted on 02/05/2006 4:22:59 PM PST by Yeti ("He might be drunk!")
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To: MarkL

"PS, at trivia question... Who was the opening act at the Farewell Concert of Cream? Yes!"

Uh... Steve Howe?

53 posted on 02/05/2006 7:33:55 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser
"PS, at trivia question... Who was the opening act at the Farewell Concert of Cream? Yes!"

Uh... Steve Howe?

No, it was Yes! Steve Howe didn't join Yes until 1971. It was Jon, Chris, Peter, Tony, and Bill back then. In fact, I believe that it was one of their first live shows.


54 posted on 02/05/2006 11:42:33 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: AlexandriaDuke; dmz; Drew68
Did you see the Stone's Super bowl half-time (and opening ceremony too) show? Sound was off at the start but cleared quickly with he second (new) song.
55 posted on 02/05/2006 11:48:49 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: endthematrix

ron should stayed off the slide

my 14 y/o daughter was cracking up at mick, though "is he wearing a belly shirt?", "does he always dance like that?", "why are they all so ugly?"

out of the mouths of babes ...

56 posted on 02/06/2006 5:02:10 AM PST by dmz
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To: sully777

too bad the Stones did not lip sync last night.

57 posted on 02/06/2006 5:04:12 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I stopped watching halftime shows after "THe Sounds of Motown" featured Martha Reeves. IIRC, that show took place when Green Bay played Denver or New England. She was off key the entire performance.

58 posted on 02/06/2006 9:15:27 AM PST by sully777 (The religion of peace apparently kills!)
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