Skip to comments.US group implants electronic tags in workers
Posted on 02/12/2006 4:28:09 PM PST by wagglebee
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"The "VeriChip" which is what the article is referring to has recently been proven it can be cloned. "
Oh, but don't worry. They will put in some safeguards against this. In fact, they will get the Internet Explorer browser developers to implement the security protocol.
The we know it could never be hacked. </sarcasm>
It's a bit more convoluted than that.
The patent for the implantable microchip (for both animal and human applications) is owned by Digital Angel Corp. which in turn is owned by Applied Digital Solutions, who also are about to IPO the Verichip Corp. Applied Digital licenses the rights to the human applications from Digital Angel and will spin off that license to the Verichip Corp.
The chips themselves are manufactured by Raytheon (article cite).
"Do random drug tests or government databases give you the creeps? If your up to no good they should, otherwise, WHO CARES? I don't have to hide behind "privacy" rights (a liberal construct) or miranda warnings because I walk the straight and narrow.
You should too."
You should get out more. Ever heard about this? It's a true story about a guy walked the straight and narrow.
Don't worry, this will only be voluntary, comrade.
"Logically, to be effective, the program would have to cooerce compliance with forceful implantation"
Please come and try to chip me.
I dare you.
"Regarding friendly fire problems, consider that any device that can be read by us can also be read by the enemy - which means they have perfect little RF homing signals for their outgoing fire."
And since RFID's have to be "painted" with interogation signals in order to be read, we have perfect big RF homing signals for our outgoing.
( but since current RFID's range about 12 ft max right now, we are within "whites of their eyes" range anyway )
Concur. Toward the end of the XX Century, I kept saying that the most analagous situation to that toward which we're now heading is that of the Finnish Civil War of 1918, when Finnish patriots forestalled attempts by their nations *progressives* to jump on the Bolshevik revolution's success in Russia.
Now that we're in the XXI Century, I still know of no better situation for comparison. And as we head toward the anniversary of that Finnish national bloodletting, I wonder if we'll last until 1018 before it blows the lid off.
|Killed in action||5,199||3,414||790||9,403|
|Executed, shot or murdered||7,370||1,424||926||9,720|
|Concentration Camp deaths||11,652||4||1,790||13,446|
|Died after release from camp||607||-||6||613|
|Source: National Archive|
Oh, and these things have already been cloned. The mfgr is pretty red-faced about it.
>>Did this person wander on to a nominally conservative forum by mistake?
member since 2003. 5 seconds of due dillegence would have told you that.
>>>Regarding friendly fire problems, consider that any device that can be read by us can also be read by the enemy
...that's why DoD wants em so bad.
And of course that's way too advanced a concept for the moron you were addressing, but nonetheless, you're absolutely right.
I think I remembered reading that if the first Civil War's losses were extrapolated to our present day population, deaths from a similar civil war today would be over 9 million.
I think all terrorists should have the chips implanted prior to their release (or escape). Then we can send the predators to go get them.
>>>Please come and try to chip me.
I don't want the job - it was undoubtedly fall to somebody a LOT bigger than me (and you).
"...that's why DoD wants em so bad."
Pretty dumb if they did ... when fighting a non-technical foe, all the bad guys have to do is come up with an IED that goes off when it senses ANY RFID tag - their rats scurry across freely, our guys get hit.
>>>>ACLU people? So, anyone who believes that privacy is more important than automatic identification is an ACLU ass?
Well they are the ones always crying about privacy "rights" - which dosn't, incidentally, appear anywhere in the Constitution. It is a construct of the leftist judiciary of the 60's.
My point is that the 4th amendment prohibits unreasonable search and seizure - and RFID chips can (and will, at some point) be used to search you without your knowledge, and certainly without even probable cause.
The poster I replied to stated that everyone who was against that was an ACLU type. Thet oversimplification is assinine - and genuinely detracts from the debate.
Sure, the ACLU will go ape over this - maybe. But a lot of conservative thinkers will, too. Both factions may be acting under their own, very different set of beliefs. Let's debate the topic, not try to cut off debate by demonizing the opponent.
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