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To: RightWhale

Man there are a lot of ACLU people on this thread. HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES (REAL AMERICANS) FROM THE ILLEGALS AND "STUDENT" TERRORISTS? You are playing right into their hands. Don't fall for the liberal claptrap. How does a chip hurt the law-abiding AMERICAN? Answer: Not one bit. How does is hurt the evildoer? Answer: Really really bad.


35 posted on 02/12/2006 5:32:25 PM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: forrestroche

>>>How does a chip hurt the law-abiding AMERICAN?

Are you a US Citizen? Or a UN Citizen?


39 posted on 02/12/2006 5:35:46 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: forrestroche
How's that "lone voice in the wilderness" feeling grab you?

Get used to it.

40 posted on 02/12/2006 5:36:07 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: forrestroche
HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES (REAL AMERICANS) FROM THE ILLEGALS

What about the Mark of the Beast and 666 and all that? Can't we just have a simple shibboleth or something without making it look like we are deliberately bringing about the End Times?

41 posted on 02/12/2006 5:36:36 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: forrestroche

I'll go along with that. There are already plenty of ways to track anyone, an RFID has distinct advantages. The tag can contain links to all the information medical, next of kin that anyone would need. Convicts and convicted child molesters can be easily identified, kids who are kidnapped can be picked up on and located and illegals who are not tagged can be easily rounded up. If you don't fall into one of the scumbag categories you don't have to worry any more than you have to worry about the methods in place today.


70 posted on 02/12/2006 6:04:48 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: forrestroche
"HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES (REAL AMERICANS) FROM THE ILLEGALS AND "STUDENT" TERRORISTS?"

Who needs implants? The illegals are the ones crossing the border.

182 posted on 02/12/2006 8:46:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: forrestroche
Man there are a lot of ACLU people on this thread. HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES (REAL AMERICANS) FROM THE ILLEGALS AND "STUDENT" TERRORISTS? You are playing right into their hands. Don't fall for the liberal claptrap. How does a chip hurt the law-abiding AMERICAN? Answer: Not one bit. How does is hurt the evildoer? Answer: Really really bad.

Man, turn your left blinker off, will ya! Blackbird.

224 posted on 02/13/2006 4:59:04 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: forrestroche
How does a chip hurt the law-abiding AMERICAN? Answer: Not one bit.

Try seeing the chip as a yellow Star of David (1939 - Germany).

227 posted on 02/13/2006 5:18:37 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: forrestroche

ACLU people? So, anyone who believes that privacy is more important than automatic identification is an ACLU ass? Feh.

Regarding friendly fire problems, consider that any device that can be read by us can also be read by the enemy - which means they have perfect little RF homing signals for their outgoing fire. Maybe they even can decode them, so that they can target only officers, all the way up to the CINC.

Think things through before you post - your point makes no sense.


233 posted on 02/13/2006 6:00:14 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: forrestroche

I'm not convinced that these chips would be terribly useful in identifying U.S. citizens, though they could be a convenient adjunct to a system which accomplished that. What we need is a really solid biometric ID national database, with public access to limited information on anyone who is in it, e.g. citizenship status, and whether the individual has a criminal record. It's too easy to invent or assume an identity in this country, and the consequences are often very grave. Many facilities which care for people with severe mental and/or physical disabilities have low-level staffers with histories of aggravated assault and rape, and too often they repeat those offenses on their vulnerable charges. They can pretend to be anybody when they apply for a job. Fake IDs like driver's licenses are easy to come by, and since HR departments now have liability-protection policies under which they will divulge little or no information about previous employees, a criminal can assume the name and former employer of a decent employee, and there's really no way for a prospective employer to verify identity. If I fill out an application saying I'm Joe Miller who used to clean bedpans at Hicktown Hospital for Special Children, and produce a driver's license with my picture on it and Joe Miller's name and birth date, and a SS card with Joe Miller's SS# on it, the prospective employer has absolutely no way of knowing that I'm really Tom Smith who was fired from Middletown Home for Wayward Boys for molesting the inmates, and was convicted under a plea bargain of indecent exposure. Not to mention that the votes of citizens are increasingly being diluted by the votes of illegal immigrants, and by double-voting and voting under the names of dead people.


304 posted on 02/13/2006 2:33:04 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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