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Pat Buchanan : America's Hollow Prosperity
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 02/15/2006 | Patrick Buchanan

Posted on 02/15/2006 10:42:45 AM PST by SirLinksalot

Our hollow prosperity

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Posted: February 15, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

PATRICK BUCHANAN

© 2006 Creators Syndicate Inc.

Now that the U.S. trade deficit for 2005 has come in at $726 billion, the fourth straight all-time record, a question arises.

What constitutes failure for a free-trade policy? Or is there no such thing? Is free trade simply right no matter the results?

Last year, the United States ran a $202 billion trade deficit with China, the largest ever between two nations. We ran all-time record trade deficits with OPEC, the European Union, Japan, Canada and Latin America. The $50 billion deficit with Mexico was the largest since NAFTA passed and also the largest in history.

When NAFTA was up for a vote in 1993, the Clintonites and their GOP fellow-travelers said it would grow our trade surplus, raise Mexico's standard of living and reduce illegal immigration.

None of this happened. Indeed, the opposite occurred. Mexico's standard of living is lower than it was in 1993, the U.S. trade surplus has vanished, and America is being invaded. Mexico is now the primary source of narcotics entering the United States.

Again, when can we say a free-trade policy has failed?

The Bushites point proudly to 4.6 million jobs created since May 2003, a 4.7 percent unemployment rate and low inflation.

Unfortunately, conservative columnist Paul Craig Roberts and analysts Charles McMillion and Ed Rubenstein have taken a close look at the figures and discovered that the foundation of the Bush prosperity rests on rotten timber.

The entire job increase since 2001 has been in the service sector – credit intermediation, health care, social assistance, waiters, waitresses, bartenders, etc. – and state and local government.

But, from January 2001 to January 2006, the United States lost 2.9 million manufacturing jobs, 17 percent of all we had. Over the past five years, we have suffered a net loss in goods-producing jobs.

"The decline in some manufacturing sectors has more in common with a country undergoing saturation bombing than with a super-economy that is 'the envy of the world,'" writes Roberts.

Communications equipment lost 43 percent of its workforce. Semiconductors and electronic components lost 37 percent ... The workforce in computers and electronic products declined 30 percent. Electrical equipment and appliances lost 25 percent of its workforce.

How did this happen? Imports. The U.S. trade deficit in advanced technology jobs in 2005 hit an all-time high.

As for the "knowledge industry" jobs that were going to replace blue-collar jobs, it's not happening. The information sector lost 17 percent of all its jobs over the last five years.

In the same half-decade, the U.S. economy created only 70,000 net new jobs in architecture and engineering, while hundreds of thousands of American engineers remain unemployed.

If we go back to when Clinton left office, one finds that, in five years, the United States has created a net of only 1,054,000 private-sector jobs, while government added 1.1 million. But as many new private sector jobs are not full-time, McMillion reports, "the country ended 2005 with fewer private sector hours worked than it had in January 2001."

This is an economic triumph?

Had the United States not created the 1.4 million new jobs it did in health care since January 2001, we would have nearly half a million fewer private-sector jobs than when Bush first took the oath.

Ed Rubenstein of ESR Research Economic Consultants looks at the wage and employment figures and discovers why, though the Bushites were touting historic progress, 55 percent of the American people in a January poll rated the Bush economy only "fair" or "poor."

Not only was 2005's growth of 2 million jobs a gain of only 1.5 percent, anemic compared to the average 3.5 percent at this stage of other recoveries, the big jobs gains are going to immigrants.

Non-Hispanic whites, over 70 percent of the labor force, saw only a 1 percent employment increase in 2005. Hispanics, half of whom are foreign born, saw a 4.7 percent increase. As Hispanics will work for less in hospitals and hospices, and as waiters and waitresses, they are getting the new jobs.

But are not wages rising? Nope. When inflation is factored in, the Economic Policy Institute reports, "real wages fell by 0.5 percent over the last 12 months after falling 0.7 percent the previous 12 months."

If one looks at labor force participation – what share of the 227 million potential workers in America have jobs – it has fallen since 2002 for whites, blacks and Hispanics alike. Non-Hispanic whites are down to 63.4 percent, but black Americans have fallen to 57.7 percent.

What is going on? Hispanic immigrants are crowding out black Americans in the unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled job market. And millions of our better jobs are being lost to imports and outsourcing.

The affluent free-traders, whose wealth resides in stocks in global companies, are enriching themselves at the expense of their fellow citizens and sacrificing the American worker on the altar of the Global Economy.

None dare call it economic treason.


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To: Jack Black
They are spending the money. On factories, machines, infrastructure, oil, other commodities and new buildings. Most of which are NOT in the USA.

And what do those people do with the money? They spend it. Eventually, someone's going to buy some American stuff with the money. Otherwise, they'll be left holding a bunch of worthless green paper.

101 posted on 02/15/2006 12:01:11 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: pissant

Paul Craig Roberts has been and still is a conservative economist.


102 posted on 02/15/2006 12:02:23 PM PST by BlackjackPershing ("Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers." John Jay)
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To: steadfastconservative

The point is Buchanan opposed Clinton trade policies (Free Trade, NAFTA), Gore trade policies and Bush 2 trade policies (CAFTA) which are all the same.

On the issue of trade it would be fair to say maybe the Republicans should nominate Gore, or maybe the Dems should invite Jeb to run on their ticket- BECAUSE THEY AGREE ON TRADE.


103 posted on 02/15/2006 12:02:55 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: JABBERBONK

What percent of all that is inflation?


104 posted on 02/15/2006 12:03:20 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Richard Kimball

It's an agreement. Which is a law. It could be challenged as unconstitional, but otherwise it's just like any other law. Treaties have more weight than ordinary laws, NAFTA is not afforded those, as it is not a treaty.


105 posted on 02/15/2006 12:05:11 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: CWOJackson

Pat agrees with Bush.

Bush SOTU "I will ask Congress for $350 million to support Palestinian political, economic, and security reforms. The goal of two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace, is within reach -- and America will help them achieve that goal. (Applause.)"

P.S. The topic of the column is trade, not Pat, not military action.


106 posted on 02/15/2006 12:05:12 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: BlackjackPershing

Funny. If you write articles that are a combination of Cindy Sheehan, Paul Krugman and Algore, I think you lose that "conservative" label.


107 posted on 02/15/2006 12:06:23 PM PST by pissant
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To: ex-snook
The issue is pat and the agenda he pushes in his articles...such as defending Hamas, his INSISTING that we not print cartoons that irritate Muslims...his agenda that underlies everything he writes IS the issue.
108 posted on 02/15/2006 12:06:58 PM PST by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in Star Wars?)
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To: A. Pole

Buchanan has a serious credibility problem on this issue. If this country weren't so damned affluent, nobody would have time to read anything written by some inside-the-Beltway snot who has never had a real job in his life. In fact, the term "talking head" is a job description that one only finds in societies that are affluent beyond belief.


109 posted on 02/15/2006 12:07:57 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: CWOJackson
Pat agrees with Bush. Bush SOTU "I will ask Congress for $350 million to support Palestinian political, economic, and security reforms. The goal of two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace, is within reach -- and America will help them achieve that goal. (Applause.)"

P.S. No column hijacking, if you please.

110 posted on 02/15/2006 12:09:01 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
They need to go crack a macro-economics book written in this century.

Written by apologists for the deficit since 2000?

111 posted on 02/15/2006 12:09:47 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Aquinasfan
And what do those people do with the money? They spend it.

Not necessarily, as China has successfully shown with their 15 years pattern of hoarding.

Eventually, someone's going to buy some American stuff with the money. Otherwise, they'll be left holding a bunch of worthless green paper.

Apparently the Chinese are cool with that...so long as they get all our industry and technology.

112 posted on 02/15/2006 12:15:24 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Paul Ross
Amen!

I saw an earlier reference to Milton Friedman whose books I generally find interesting until I get about halfway through, which is where he begins to depart from reality like most of the Adam-Smith-tie-wearers posting today.

Say hello to San Angelo, Monahans and Borger for me.
113 posted on 02/15/2006 12:16:27 PM PST by markedman (Islam means surrender, and I will NEVER surrender!)
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To: ex-snook
You may think it's hijacking but the integrity of the author is important.

On Jan 18th he insisted that Iran does not provide a nuclear threat and bemoans the attack in Pakistan that killed innocent women and children...and never once mentions the bad guys who were the target.

On Jan 25th he defends Iran again and insists we cannot take military action against them and attacks President Bush.

On Jan 30th he defends the Hamas election and attacks Isreal and President Bush.

On Feb 1st he writes an article demanding we fund Hamas...and takes his normal cheap shots at Isreal and President Bush.

He goes off the scale on Feb 3rd, including these brilliant remarks: "Having plunged us into an unnecessary war, Bush now confronts the real possibility of strategic defeat and a failed presidency. His victory in Iraq, like the wars of Wilson and FDR, has turned to ashes in our mouths. And like Truman's war in Korea and Kennedy's war in Vietnam, Bush's war has left America divided and her people regretting he ever led us in. But unlike the world wars, Korea and Vietnam, Bush cannot claim the enemy attacked us and we had no choice. Iraq is Bush's war."

Feb 8th, he writes an article insisting the we should not publish cartoons offensive to Muslims and is on the Sean Hannity radio show defending his position...he further insists that there is nothing wrong with publishing cartoons demeaning Christianity or the Hebrew faith.

Feb 11th...he's again deriding anyone who publishes cartoons offensive to Muslims...and attacking President Bush.

It's important that anyone not familiar with him and his agenda know a little more about what motivates pat and what he writes...hate.

114 posted on 02/15/2006 12:19:43 PM PST by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in Star Wars?)
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To: SirLinksalot
Pat is dead on with this. The jobs that the admin crows about are jobs I used to have in high school. A trained out of work engineer getting a job in Walmart should not be counted in these job numbers. The admins employment numbers are misleading. My fellow freepers will sing a different song when the out sourcing/unemployment gun points at them.
115 posted on 02/15/2006 12:20:10 PM PST by ghitma (Lifter)
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To: A. Pole; Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy; expat_panama
Now that the U.S. trade deficit for 2005 has come in at $726 billion, the fourth straight all-time record, a question arises.

The question should be: Does anyone understand that a capital account surplus is good?

116 posted on 02/15/2006 12:21:43 PM PST by Mase
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To: .cnI redruM

ahhh crap LOL

well that was a time when I wasn't really paying attention, but at least I remembered the quote and the party :)


117 posted on 02/15/2006 12:23:00 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: dead
You cite a litany of government failures on the economic front as a justification for your plans to put the government in charge of the purchasing decisions of individual Americans.

I NEVER said this.
118 posted on 02/15/2006 12:24:58 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: A. Pole
My economy can, I purchased a house in Trinity Florida last year, I had a one year wait till completion, about 6 weeks before closing I got an offer of $36,000 over my purchase price, so I took the money and ran..it's all about creating wealth. You can sit around moan like clowns such as Buchanan, or you can move your ass and make money.
119 posted on 02/15/2006 12:25:23 PM PST by JABBERBONK
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To: Paul Ross
They do not necessarily hoard the USA dollars, they trade them for DM, euros, CHF, Yen, etc. and use that currency to buy the means of production they require. The nations institutions who end up with US dollars buy our national debt, buy golf courses, invest in sports teams, buy commercial property, buy super market chains, etc..

If we had products they actually wanted at the price we offered them for ostensibly there would be no trade deficit. Because of this, they buy our debt or fund our national consumption by lending us money, or, they buy our property, which ostensibly we sell to finance more consumption.

A trade deficit is an indication that we are borrowing to finance consumption, whether it be government consumption or consumption in the private sector, nevertheless, we are borrowing and when the interest comes due we will have to pay the bill. Would you rather be a lender of money and receive income from that investment or would you rather forever be in debt to some foreign entity?
120 posted on 02/15/2006 12:27:32 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: dead

If the economy is humming along, why is there no money for our infrastructure? Remember DOMESTIC infrastructure is a legitimate government expenditure.


121 posted on 02/15/2006 12:28:24 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: ghitma

Oh please we have been hearing the tired old "hamburger flipper" jobs since Reagan...give it a rest and grow a spine.


122 posted on 02/15/2006 12:29:08 PM PST by JABBERBONK
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To: rcocean
Commodity prices will go up, and the value of the dollar will decrease.

Where is the value of the dollar decreasing?

123 posted on 02/15/2006 12:30:22 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Rodney King

If texas has more tax revenues than ever, why would they have to RAISE taxes to pay for a highway?


124 posted on 02/15/2006 12:30:24 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Paul Ross
All pursuant the Chinese Communist government intervention.

Where? In what way?

125 posted on 02/15/2006 12:30:56 PM PST by logician2u
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To: JABBERBONK
Hamburger Flipper had been replaced by Walmart Greeter which is doubling damning since the buchanan folks hate Walmart with a passion.
126 posted on 02/15/2006 12:32:07 PM PST by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in Star Wars?)
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To: ghitma
The jobs that the admin crows about are jobs I used to have in high school. A trained out of work engineer getting a job in Walmart should not be counted in these job numbers. The admins employment numbers are misleading.

Well said!

127 posted on 02/15/2006 12:32:52 PM PST by A. Pole (If outsourcing is such a good thing, why don't the executives outsource their own jobs overseas?)
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To: CWOJackson

The topic of the thread is trade not your political opinions. Stick to the topic.


128 posted on 02/15/2006 12:34:05 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: dead
They get the money, but we get all the stuff.

Nowadays they don't generally even get paper, just the electric and magnetic field variations in the computers and backup tapes. It's really extraordinary.

129 posted on 02/15/2006 12:34:37 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Our" economy???? here where I live there are all kinds of infastrucure renewal going on...oh wait I live in Florida which has no Income Tax and the best economy in the Union, will be having "tax free" shopping periods to give some of the surplus back to the public. Maybe it is because we have a GOP Governor and a GOP legislature..hummm?
130 posted on 02/15/2006 12:34:47 PM PST by JABBERBONK
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To: ex-snook

The topic is an article written by a disgruntled hack with a political agenda.


131 posted on 02/15/2006 12:34:55 PM PST by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in Star Wars?)
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To: JABBERBONK
I purchased a house in Trinity Florida last year, I had a one year wait till completion, about 6 weeks before closing I got an offer of $36,000 over my purchase price, so I took the money and ran..it's all about creating wealth.

"I took the money and ran". This is the freemarketeers concept of creating wealth.

132 posted on 02/15/2006 12:35:01 PM PST by A. Pole (If outsourcing is such a good thing, why don't the executives outsource their own jobs overseas?)
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To: Final Authority
If we had products they actually wanted at the price we offered them for ostensibly there would be no trade deficit

Why do you think this is so? China AVIDLY protects its domestic economy. They won't allow us to have a trade deficit with them in the opposite direction because they understand its an issue of preservation of their nation. On the other hand, we have globalists running our government and on this forum who consider citizens unnecessary execept if you need people to fight wars and pay taxes. Otherwise we're just consumers or workers to be manipulated to suit their 'vision' to create a global economy.
133 posted on 02/15/2006 12:37:20 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
The indians sold the island of Mannahatta for 24 dollars worth of beads.

And many people bought little ounces of shiny metal at $1000 a pop and saw that it is only worth half of that years later.

The Indians getting $24 for nothing is better than just waiting to get kicked off the land by the invaders. That $24 dollar investment really paid off, there are hundreds of Indian casinos now.

134 posted on 02/15/2006 12:37:33 PM PST by AmusedBystander
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Where is the value of the dollar decreasing?

For example in Poland - a few years ago you could get 4 zlotys for a dollar, today you can get 3.1

135 posted on 02/15/2006 12:37:40 PM PST by A. Pole (If outsourcing is such a good thing, why don't the executives outsource their own jobs overseas?)
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To: SirLinksalot

What is Pat's brother, Bay, doing these days?


136 posted on 02/15/2006 12:37:40 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: Final Authority
They do not necessarily hoard the USA dollars,

Yes they are, to the tune of $800 billion. Think about the scale of that in relation to the supposed size of the Chinese economy...supposedly only what, 1.2 trillion?

That also represents a net defacto trade surplus against the world. Hence, this point:

they trade them for DM, euros, CHF, Yen, etc. and use that currency to buy the means of production they require.

Is clearly now obsolete. China is only now admitting to what has been ongoing reality for some time now. They are running a huge trade surplus with the entire world. The previous "balance" or "deficit" posted was purely for foreign propaganda purposes to elicit further trade advantages...and was always the product of duplicitous double booking. It is only coming out now due to some efforts by the U.S. to try and compel financial transparency pursuant the WTO rules...but its not even getting a fraction of what is really going on.

137 posted on 02/15/2006 12:38:13 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: SirLinksalot
I agree with you on this. Freepres see Pats name and thats it, whatever he wrote gets trashed. I completely agree with your statement that the jobs created today are not the same quality as jobs created decades ago. This is a reality that I see everyday. I have been in IT for 23 years and have kept my skills with up to date. We can do anything those Indians do and we do it better in the same or less time, and the code works right off the bat, can't say that for the mumbai boys. But it doesn't matter they do it cheaper because their cost of living is cheaper.
138 posted on 02/15/2006 12:39:07 PM PST by ghitma (Lifter)
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To: SirLinksalot
I agree with you on this. Freepers see Pats name and thats it, whatever he wrote gets trashed. I completely agree with your statement that the jobs created today are not the same quality as jobs created decades ago. This is a reality that I see everyday. I have been in IT for 23 years and have kept my skills with up to date. We can do anything those Indians do and we do it better in the same or less time, and the code works right off the bat, can't say that for the mumbai boys. But it doesn't matter they do it cheaper because their cost of living is cheaper.
139 posted on 02/15/2006 12:39:23 PM PST by ghitma (Lifter)
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To: JABBERBONK
here where I live there are all kinds of infastrucure renewal going on

Really? By condeming private property to "restore" the everglades? By the "restoration economy" you've got going there which restricts new building and only allows "restoration" of existing structures?
140 posted on 02/15/2006 12:40:07 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: JABBERBONK; A. Pole
...it's all about creating wealth. You can sit around moan like clowns such as Buchanan, or you can move your ass and make money.

That really is the choice --simple as that.  I'm becoming  more and more convinced that the deep inside these Pat-People actually choose to avoid the success they fear, and to hate the rest of us who are successful.

There's another thread going on right now (Republicans happier than rivals) that's considering this very question.  It's all about how happy conservatives are and how unhappy the big government types are.  Sure seems that the most unhappy people around are the ones that want a government big enough to raise our taxes to pamper union bosses for life.

141 posted on 02/15/2006 12:40:23 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: ex-snook

Isn't the intent of this forum and these threads to discuss political opinion? When a subject is introduced and examined by an author who is political in nature and who does it for political sport, aren't we obliged to discuss its political intent as well?

Although I have stuck to the subject matter in my replies I nevertheless realize that economics is difficult to understand for many on these threads, and the comments, political and otherwise, do not disprove that fact.


142 posted on 02/15/2006 12:40:47 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Paul Ross

1999 would work, too. Or 1975. Just not 1650.

A trade deficit, by itself, means nothing.

It's like an elevated heartbeat. Could be bad. Or you could be jogging.

I believe this miscopetion is a caused by failure to require calculus to graduate high school.

It's based on static, zero-sum, thinking. Essentially, they assume there is a finite of wealth to go around.

This was last true in mercantile Holland when countries hoarded gold.

I believe the concept eludes the same type of people who can't get their mind around the (similiar) concept that lowering taxes increases can increase tax revenue by increasing the size of the pie, albeit it is a disease of non-mathematical minds on the right, as opposed to the limited minds of the left.

To grossly oversimplify (and make static for explaination), if the US economy imports 250 to expand its economy from 500 to 1000, it's up a net 250.

We import to expand more, in other words.

The floating dollar is the natural fix to this --- if we over-import the dollar devalues, so we export more and import less.

Pat is, well, limited, in his mental capacity apparently, or simply does not want to understand.


143 posted on 02/15/2006 12:41:01 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: A. Pole

Yup, thats how it works, I take some of the profit I made on Real estate, and some gets invested elsewhere some gets used to make purchases that would not have been made other wise to grow the economy {economics 101}hope it's not too confusing for some on this thread.


144 posted on 02/15/2006 12:41:42 PM PST by JABBERBONK
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To: ex-snook

Isn't the intent of this forum and these threads to discuss political opinion? When a subject is introduced and examined by an author who is political in nature and who does it for political sport, aren't we obliged to discuss its political intent as well?

Although I have stuck to the subject matter in my replies I nevertheless realize that economics is difficult to understand for many on these threads, and the comments, political and otherwise, do not disprove that fact.


145 posted on 02/15/2006 12:42:16 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: expat_panama

Interesting how this thread proves the other.


146 posted on 02/15/2006 12:44:45 PM PST by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in Star Wars?)
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To: Jack Black
The "FT" in NAFTA stands for Free Trade.

That was the intent, just as Congress has mislabeled several other laws as "civil rights" or "tax reform" which are not really what they purport to be.

We can have free trade any time we want it without negotiating treaties or "agreements" that skirt the Constitution's ratification process. Just drop restrictive tariffs and trade embargoes. My son could go for a good Cuban cigar (I don't smoke, but I do care).

As far as "internationalist-libertarian" wet dreams go, perhaps you've forgotten that both the Cato Institute and the Libertarian Party were fully in support of NAFTA.

We either have a government that believes its citizens should be empowered to buy and sell freely or we don't.

The nature of bipartisan "agreements" on trade over the last decade indicate strongly that we don't.

147 posted on 02/15/2006 12:47:01 PM PST by logician2u
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To: hedgetrimmer
If the economy is humming along, why is there no money for our infrastructure?

Because the government wastes our money on stupid crap that they shouldn’t be involved in.

I have no idea what this remotely has to do with our trade deficit though, beyond validating my point that the government is a piss poor economic planner and should do less of it.

The Buchananites cannot seem to tackle this inarguable point, so they throw out irrelevancies like how some people in Texas want to finance construction of a road.

148 posted on 02/15/2006 12:47:56 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I'm afraid your a tad clueless, the Infastructure I refer to in my area would include, just about every major thoughfare being improved, and the huge amount of NEW construction in the Pasco/Hernando/Citrus county I 75, and Suncoast parkway corridors.


149 posted on 02/15/2006 12:49:29 PM PST by JABBERBONK
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To: hedgetrimmer
If texas has more tax revenues than ever, why would they have to RAISE taxes to pay for a highway?

Huh? Maybe because they are spending it on other stuff. Are you claiming that Texas is lying about how much it is collecting in taxes?

150 posted on 02/15/2006 12:49:51 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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