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HBO's Gumbel: Lack of Blacks Makes Olympics 'Look Like a GOP Convention'
Newsbusters.org ^ | 2/16/05 | David Pierre

Posted on 02/16/2006 7:25:32 AM PST by Airborne1986

There were some eye-opening remarks from Bryant Gumbel on the most recent episode of HBO's Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel. According to a transcript posted by a television columnist named Seth Frelich, Gumbel said the following in his closing monologue last week (emphasis mine):

"Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don’t care about them and won’t watch them ... Because they’re so trying ... Like, try not to be incredulous when someone attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something’s not really a sport if a pseudo-athlete waits in what’s called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the day they’re done, when we can move on to March Madness — for God’s sake, let the games begin."


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To: ezed72

You are completely missing the point. Small comments from conservatives or Republicans like Rush or Trent Lott are blown way out of context and obvious racist comments by liberal ARE COMPLETELY IGNORED.


151 posted on 02/16/2006 8:59:15 AM PST by teddyballgame (red man in blue state)
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To: montag813

LOL!


152 posted on 02/16/2006 9:00:41 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Airborne1986
So, it's racism that blacks don't care to participate in sports like hockey, skiing, curling, figure skating and speed skating. But, good ol' Bryant has no problem with blacks being overrepresented in the Summer Olympics.

If he has such a problem with having to look at white people, maybe he should kick the white women out of his bed and stop selling out his race and betraying all the sisters out there.

153 posted on 02/16/2006 9:04:23 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Airborne1986

"Gump-dumbell" is both a moron and a MSM slimeball, which makes this statement the furthest thing from an "eye-opening remark".


154 posted on 02/16/2006 9:07:43 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
If Gumball had two brains, he'd still be lonely
155 posted on 02/16/2006 9:09:12 AM PST by Dr. I. C. Spots
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To: skikvt
Vonetta Flowers - gold medalist in the 2-man bobsled at the 2002 Olympics
156 posted on 02/16/2006 9:10:07 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Airborne1986

If blacks make up 5% of the population, they clearly
should have 5% of the medals set aside for competitors
of color - and maybe 7% as reparations for past
Olympic discrimination in winter sports...


157 posted on 02/16/2006 9:10:51 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: Airborne1986

I flushed down what looked to be a Democrat convention just this AM


158 posted on 02/16/2006 9:13:16 AM PST by digger48
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To: dfwgator
I would agree that the Olympic Winter Games jumped the shark with the inclusion of all the X-Games crap.

They probably added the Snowboard Cross thing (there's like 3 or 4 snowboarders going down a hill bouncing off of each other) to get the NASCAR and Motocross crowd ;-)
159 posted on 02/16/2006 9:16:27 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: TChris

Winter athletes tend to come from winter climates.

Besides that, I'm tired of any so-called sport that gets officiated by a "judge."

If it's not based on a clock, a tape measure, or a score, then it ain't a sport....even if it requires athleticism.


160 posted on 02/16/2006 9:18:19 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Airborne1986
Or one of Bryant's blind dates.

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161 posted on 02/16/2006 9:19:07 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Airborne1986

Does he believe if you strap on skates to a Kenyan runner he'll become a speedskater?


162 posted on 02/16/2006 9:22:11 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: montag813
"So what do the Summer Games look like?"

A welfare line. Oops! The knife cuts both ways Gumbel.
163 posted on 02/16/2006 9:25:29 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: goresalooza

Playing for the NY Rangers...goalie Kevin Weekes!!


164 posted on 02/16/2006 9:28:32 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Airborne1986

Gumbell is a GD raciest!!!!!!!! Let a "D" replace the "G" in Gumball.........Gumbell and what have you got? A dumbell!!!!!

Take Gumbell with a dash of salt but the lime is on the house and everybody gets the worm.


165 posted on 02/16/2006 9:28:47 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Let's make government a liberal free zone.)
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To: Airborne1986

Hey Gumbel! You're a racist!


166 posted on 02/16/2006 9:30:18 AM PST by dmanLA
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To: TheBattman

167 posted on 02/16/2006 9:30:27 AM PST by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: Airborne1986
Gumbel is a moron. I have a vague recollection of Gumbel hosting the Olympic coverage during the Seoul Olympics in 1988. He had a Korean tailor brought on camera during the show so Gumbel could hassle him over some suits Gumble ordered but that were not yet delivered. Gumble even pulled out a wad of cash like the stereotypical ugly American. The media did not pick up on that either.

Hey Gumbel, maybe if swimming was a winter sport!... /sarc. Remember the incident where Letterman harmlessly yelled out of a window at Gumbel while cameras were rolling on the Today show. He went BALLISTIC. Then he held this childish grudge for some time.

168 posted on 02/16/2006 9:35:06 AM PST by 101st-Eagle (Hunt with VP Cheney=hurt. Drive w/ Kennedy=DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!)
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To: Airborne1986
"Winter Games look like a GOP convention"

Facts:

% of Blacks in the USA: ~ 13%
% of Blacks at GOP Convention: ~ > 15%

% of Blacks as Gumbel's spouse: 0 % (100% White women)
169 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:05 AM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: TChris

Well the winter sports venues just aren't the cup of tea that summer sports seem to be.


170 posted on 02/16/2006 9:37:17 AM PST by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: TRY ONE
% of Blacks at GOP Convention: ~ > 15%

15% of the delegates at the GOP Convention were black? Where did you hear that?

171 posted on 02/16/2006 9:38:31 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: montag813

"So what do the Summer Games look like? An NAACP Convention?" Repetez si vous plait!


172 posted on 02/16/2006 9:39:36 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: teddyballgame

Well said.

Gumbel wants to move on to "March Madness". Yeah right. He's probably irked that J.J. Reddick and Adam Morrison are the two best college BB players in the nation this year, despite their obvious racial inferiority.


173 posted on 02/16/2006 9:40:24 AM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: Airborne1986
This guy still has a show on TV?


I thought he was rendered irrelevant quite some time ago.
174 posted on 02/16/2006 9:41:17 AM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: montag813

"So what do the Summer Games look like? An NAACP Convention?"

You know better than that. The Summer Games tend to be games that don't involve hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment just to complete. That does mean you're not going to get too many Kenyans on the ski jump.


175 posted on 02/16/2006 9:41:46 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Airborne1986

Another I've noticed is that all the snow is white!


176 posted on 02/16/2006 9:42:17 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Airborne1986
Whether it will do any good or not I went to the HBO website and emailed a complaint over Gumbel's "Racist Attitude" and complained about his trashing the Winter Olympic events as "something other than true sports".
177 posted on 02/16/2006 9:43:07 AM PST by Cliff Dweller ("get thar fustest with the mostest." GEN NB Forrest)
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To: Airborne1986

Double Standard?

Did Gumbel ever bother to comment on the lack of diversity of Team USA in basketball during the 2004 Olympics in Athens???


178 posted on 02/16/2006 9:46:53 AM PST by CurlyBill (Democratic Party = Surrender Party)
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To: discostu

You ever try to do what Nancy Kwan does? I agree that it is more like ballroom dancing or ballet, but both skaters and dancers are very athletic people.


179 posted on 02/16/2006 9:49:07 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Airborne1986

Calll HBO at #212-512-1208 and voice your concern about them employing a known racist. I have cancelled my HBO until they get rid of him.


180 posted on 02/16/2006 9:49:18 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: longtermmemmory

Let's not forget Marge Schott.


181 posted on 02/16/2006 9:50:37 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: Mike10542

good point.

facts are tricky things for some


182 posted on 02/16/2006 9:51:31 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: RobbyS

Just because it's hard doesn't make it a sport, sitting through an Andy Warhol movie is hard doesn't mean it's a sport. Judged events aren't sports, sports are about absolutes, judged events have no absolutes.

And if there was ever a question that figure skating might be a sport that ended Monday in the pairs competition when the female of one pair botched a landing and got hurt and had to leave, only to be allowed to come back later and eventually win the silver. Let's start with being able to come back and pretend they never left, that's just silly. Then winning a silver inspite of that horrid landing, simply pathetic.

Requiring athletic people doesn't make it a sport either, stunt men are athletic, should we have a falling off buildings sport?


183 posted on 02/16/2006 10:03:56 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: Airborne1986

It's okay Bryant, don't get angry that your party was against abolition, integration, 1964 Civil Rights Act and Katie spurned your advances while you secretly hoped for a white woman cause you didn't think your black wife was good enough for you. Filthy little COWARD RACIST.


184 posted on 02/16/2006 10:05:30 AM PST by jw777
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To: Airborne1986

He's a major racist. Makes Byrd look like a Democrat.


185 posted on 02/16/2006 10:07:23 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Airborne1986

He should be censored and fired for that dispicable, racist comment!


186 posted on 02/16/2006 10:09:38 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: discostu

To be technical, hunting and fishing are sports. Running and jumping are athletic events. And figure-skating at a high level requires as much athleticism as being a NFL corner back.


187 posted on 02/16/2006 10:11:00 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Hunting and fishing can be sports because if you make a competition there are absolutes, nobody gets judged for style, it's all about how many things you got and how big they are. That makes it a sport. Running and jumping are sports too, again dealing in absolutes of speed, height and distance. Figure skating is not a sport because there are no absolutes, the level of "athleticism" (which is nothing more than a combination of physicial fitness and agility) has nothing to do with it, the question is does the event's structure allow for you to point to an absolute and inarguable way of saying "yes these people were better at this today than those people", and when you've got judges including artistic presentation in the scoring system you don't have that, therefore it's not a sport and can never be a sport until they have an absolute scoring system that doesn't include the whim of the judges.


188 posted on 02/16/2006 10:15:30 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: LWalk18

Sorry, my Bad --- shouldn't have thrown out a number so quickly without cheking. I had remembered the 15 % Number, which apparently was closer to the % increase in Blacks over previous years. Here is what I found along with the reference.

2004 GOP Convention:
"There are 167 African American delegates here, compared with 85 four years ago, according to “Blacks and the 2004 Republican National Convention,” a report just released by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies. Black delegates are 6.7 percent of the total, compared to 4.1 percent in 2000 and only 2.6 percent in 1996."

http://www.jointcenter.org/election-2004/083004.html


189 posted on 02/16/2006 10:16:58 AM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: discostu

What are the "absolute standards" that measure a corner back's performance? You look at game film. If the guy can't cover, you bench him. Coach's call.


190 posted on 02/16/2006 10:18:34 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: psjones

I recollect he also lived in a very upscale, mostly white neighborhood in So Calif, in Ventura County.


191 posted on 02/16/2006 10:19:01 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: RobbyS

For A cornerback there's nothing, but a cornerback is part of a team, that team scores points, those points provide the absolute measurement of which team was better and therefore which team won.


192 posted on 02/16/2006 10:20:05 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: Airborne1986
Kind of like Rush when he made his Donovan McNabb comment.

No, not really. Not at all, actually.

193 posted on 02/16/2006 10:21:55 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: discostu
The corner back gets a salary for individual performance. That is the only "absolute" measure of that performance.
194 posted on 02/16/2006 10:22:45 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Doesn't matter. You don't have to be able to judge individual members of a TEAM by absolutes so long as the sprot in question has a way to judge the TEAM by absolutes. Football has a scoring system based on crossing various lines in various ways, the TEAM that puts up the most point through this absolute scoring system wins. How well one particular member of the team contributed to that does not need to be judged by any absolutes (except by the people paying him) since the team wins or looses as a whole.


195 posted on 02/16/2006 10:25:48 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: discostu
The corner back is an individual participant in a sport and unlike a quarterback, there for few statistics that can be used to show his individual worth. I simply refuse to accept an denigration of the individual performers involved in figure skating. Bottom line it requires long and difficult training and an order of athletic ability that is comparable to that of the best athletes. Finally, a judicious evaluation of that performance --like that of a corner back depends ultimately on what a trained eye sees.
196 posted on 02/16/2006 10:35:30 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Petronski

My post wasn't a model in clarity. I meant that Rush got fired and trashed for a comment that merely touched on race, while Gumbel will get a free pass for an obviously racist comment. I should have included a sarcasm reference.


197 posted on 02/16/2006 10:36:27 AM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Airborne1986

Ahh. Very good. Be well.


198 posted on 02/16/2006 10:40:47 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RobbyS

Again it doesn't matter. You're hung up on this idea of scoring individual effort in team events, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about having absolute scoring of the whole, teams in team events individuals in individual events. Like I said already, the goal is an absolute way to say "yes these people were better at this today than those people". These people would be an entire team when aplicable, so you don't need an absolute way to score a member of a team when the team as a whole can be scored in absolutes.

Bottom line is training doesn't make it a sport, I went through a lot of training to be a QA engineer, it's not a sport. Difficulty doesn't make it a sport, there are many difficult things that aren't sports. Athletic ability doesn't make it a sport, there are many things that require athletic ability to do that no one is trying to make sports.

Absolute in arguable scoring systems make sports. Judged events are in their own continuum, competitions left to the whim of a faceless judging panel, they can never be sports because there's no absolute. As soon as your scoring system allows one non-participant to change the score because they didn't like how it looked you stop having a sport. Figure skating, gymanstics, ballroom dancing, all that X-Game crap, they aren't sports; they're judged competitions.


199 posted on 02/16/2006 10:42:45 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: r9etb

they're specialists, not overall world's greatest athletes.If Einstein was a lousy at writing sonnets, does that mean he's stupid?
Put Kobe Bryant on skates and tell me how great a hockey player he is.
Put Jordan in baseball cleats, oh wait, already did that.


200 posted on 02/16/2006 10:59:33 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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