Posted on 02/18/2006 6:28:37 PM PST by MRMEAN
The arguement here has beeen that MJ is not dangerous nor is it addictive and therefore should not be illegal. That side has presented much proof of that.
The other side has done nothing but to lump MJ in with all other drugs and they have come up with absolutely nothing to back up even one of their claims. Hyperbole, heresay and inuendo is what they use with a goodly dose of deception thrown in for good measure.
Whey asked for proof, they have none to back their arguements except that it is illegal. We already know that. We want to know why, based on what real evidence, is it illegal.
They cannot come up with any REAL evidence.
They have swallowed the big lie, hook, line and sinker.
And the states already make 99% of all marijuana possession arrests.
Absolutely. Because dope is fungible, federal arrests concentrate on dealers who drive the interstate and international flow of illicit drugs.
Don't you know...MJ is bad because it's illegal. And its it's illegal because it's bad. Got it?
Thanks for the clarification.
NOW I understand what the "warriors" have been talking about!
And its it's a cure for stuttering.
Anyone who argues that;
"So you want to legalize it to make it 'as available as candy'", clearly does not have a firm grasp on the argument, or the truth.
Legalization would make it as available as whiskey, not candy.
Anyone who argues that,"So you think legalization would suddenly mean people would stop using", is even more deluded, or untruthful.
The argument is, legalization would mean that millions {maybe billions -- I don't know} of dollars we spend on policing and emprisonment would be freed for other purposes. Hey! Maybe we could even keep it.
Anyone who argues that legalization would lead to more crime, doesn't have a clue as to how much crime is going on now, and they have no historical knowledge of Prohibition.
I support drug legalization and I never used illegal drugs.
I haven't used MJ in 30 years. The "warriors" assume anyone defending its use are heavy drug users right now and drug addicts. Some still use it. Fine with me. They don't need my permission, they have a life and they are free. They aren't bothering anyone and they are not harming themselves.
When I did use it, I soon learned that everything the government said bad about it was a lie.
Source, please.
Common sense, please.
Let's look at your post...
I like law enforcement against drug law.
Well, a law enforcement officer, or judge, who took his oath to support the Constitution seriously, would act against drug laws, and those who illegally attempt to enforce them...but maybe that's not what you really meant to say...actually you probably don't know what you really meant to say...
Drug law helps reduce the size of the problem that would be without drug law.
What problem...the problem of militarized SWAT teams serving "no knock" warrants and doing "dynamic entries" to attack even marijuana users...and shooting people who posed no threat, including people who have nothing to do with drugs? Oh, that's not a problem for A CA Guy. Or the problem of drug addicts who have to pay high black-market prices for their drugs, engaging in burglary, shoplifting, and robbery, to support their habits, imposing enormous risks and costs on the community, which would not happen if the addicts could obtain their drugs through commercial pharmacies or from doctors...they way they did before there was a War on Drugs...oh, that's not a problem for A CA Guy either...
Drugs come and go from many places and none of those places are our friends.
By keeping drugs illegal, we have given criminal gangs a monopoly on a lucrative, high-margin product. Many of the gangsters are foreigners who are attracted to the business, from Mexico and Central America (such as the gang M-13; because of your WOD...and including those associated with far left South American guerrillas, and Muslim terrorists, who make enormous profits only because the drugs are kept illegal, and legitimate suppliers cannot enter the market.
Only if he were abysmally ignorant. Or loaded.
Actually...not so dangerous.
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Marijuana and driving ability
After alcohol, Cannabis is the drug which is found most often in the blood of drivers involved in road accidents. The effects of THC, the major psychoactive component of Cannabis, on driving ability have been investigated by Dr. H.W.J. Robbe at the Institute of Human Psychopharmacology of the University of Limburg in Maastricht, The Netherlands.
In his PhD thesis, "Influence of Marijuana on Driving" (available through the IHA), which Robbe defended on May 26, he concludes that marijuana is not a safe drug in traffic. After using marijuana drivers were less able to drive in a straight line. However, compared to the effects of alcohol and many medicines (antidepressants and sedatives) on driving ability, the effects of marijuana are not exceptional.
The use of a moderate amount of marijuana did not affect driving ability, but the drivers thought their ability had been negatively affected. The use of a moderate amount of alcohol had a negative effect on driving ability, while the drivers thought their performance had not been affected. The use of alcohol seems to stimulate risky behaviour, whereas the use of marijuana leads to a more prudent driving style.
ummm... did i say i wanted to DRIVE around stoned?
What about alcohol?
And hey, buddy... you don't have to use guns against dopers. If you shoot someone just because they are smoking pot next door to you, it's illegal. And if you miss, they might shoot back - and not miss.
I love you so-called conservatives with your chest-pounding hard-ons against something that is far less harmful than whiskey.
I'll smoke my weed next door to you. Pull a gun - i dare you. It would be the last thing you did.
Billy Kess
Besides, where did i say legalizing meth? If you read my post carefully, you would see that I am still in favor of keeping these harder drugs illegal. I think going after pot smokers is a stupid, worthless waste of time - and a waste of the resources that we should be allocating towards fighting the harder stuff.
The war on drugs is a losing war... face it.
And guess what... there are plenty of pot smokers driving around your neighborhood right now. What are you going to do, shoot them? lol
I laugh a lot because so many of the people who are dead against pot smoking - are usually people who like to enjoy a few drinks now and then. Not all of them, but most of the people I have found who say pot is so bad are usually drinkers.
Now - with drinking... I have seen people crash cars, hit their wives, beat their kids, crap their pants, get into fights, throw up, forget where they are, fall down, wake up bloody and can't remember why, wake up with missing teeth, etc etc... With pot... I have seen people get glassy eyed and hungry.
Gee... and one is legal is the other is not.
To me, that's insanity.
BK
I never said I was a “conservative.”
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