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9th circuit hears Boy Scouts case
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| 2-20-06
| By Marshall Allen Staff Writer
Posted on 02/20/2006 10:27:33 AM PST by franky
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To: George from New England
Ths scouts might just as well work out comparable arrangements with a church group or organization, get private land made available for their good works.
Didn't the Scouts use to use land owned by Phillips Petroleum in New Mexico?
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posted on
02/20/2006 10:49:02 AM PST
by
chainsaw
( ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
To: franky
Be interesting to see how this all plays out.
What if the Klan wanted to rent space? No, some say because they discriminate.
But what if the Klan wants a permit to demonstrate, courts have said you have to let them. What's the difference?
To: franky; All
I have been camping here as a boy scout some 30yrs ago, it was cool then, I am sure with all the inprovemnts it's better not, also ther was a girl scout camp not far away we use to sneek to and check out the girls. BOO HISS on the ACLU and the 9th circus.
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posted on
02/20/2006 11:16:27 AM PST
by
markman46
(engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
To: Pookee
that counts as "jurisprudence" in Kalifornia...
what about the Dancing Ito' s??
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posted on
02/20/2006 11:33:56 AM PST
by
Rakkasan1
(Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
To: reagandemo
Actually, the ACLU could be identified as a group of "illegal combatants", and all of their members rounded up and shipped to Guantanimo.
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posted on
02/20/2006 11:36:45 AM PST
by
muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"Actually, the ACLU could be identified as a group of "illegal combatants", and all of their members rounded up and shipped to Guantanimo."
Nope I would not subject our fine troops to such filth. There is only so much a decent person should have to put up with!
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posted on
02/20/2006 11:55:34 AM PST
by
reagandemo
(The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
To: franky
The leftist want the scouts to either become a farm team for San Francisco or else to go away.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:05:04 PM PST
by
festus
(The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
To: muawiyah
Illegal combatants might be a stretch but supporting terrorist and terroristic activity isn't. Should freeze their assets and arrest their leaders just like the Holy Land Foundation etc. that the Mooslimbs are running.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:07:25 PM PST
by
festus
(The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
To: reagandemo
Maybe they could fall out of the plane on the trip to Cuba.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:10:56 PM PST
by
muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"Maybe they could fall out of the plane on the trip to Cuba."
Oh no do you want Greenpeace on your case? That is polluting the oceans. That will never do.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:18:11 PM PST
by
reagandemo
(The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
To: reagandemo
Well, maybe they kind of "fall short" and just fill in a breach in the levee in New Orleans.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:19:57 PM PST
by
muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I was thinking of putting t-shirts with the cartoon of Mohammad on them and then dropping them off in Pakistan.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:24:24 PM PST
by
reagandemo
(The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
To: reagandemo
I think that the ACLU claim, as best I understand it is nebulous. I would think that a certain minimal amount of reference to a divine being has to be permitted..... after all our money says "In God we trust".
Does THAT imply the endorsement of a divine being that is prohibited by the constitution? I'm sure that the ACLU's case is more complex than that but I think it shows that there was no intent to ban any mention of a God.
This comes down to the ACLU's punishment of an organization which doesn't like queers around young boys.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:30:37 PM PST
by
lOKKI
(You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
To: chainsaw
PHILMONT... Cimmeron New Mexico
http://www.scouting.org/philmont/main.shtml
Premier outdoor Scouting experience. 10's of thousands of acres in the Sangre De Christo Mtn range. (OH, that translates to "Blood Of Christ" dosen't it?) Land was donated by the Phillips family to the Boy Scouts in perpetuity.
My troop has used 'phone-bank and speed dials" to get on the list for "next years" slots. Usually treks are filled within minutes of the opening for the seasons reservations.
To: chainsaw
The Phillips brothers (not the company they owned) gave Philmont Ranch to the BSA. They also donated a number of other significant properties to the State of Oklahoma, the City of Tulsa, and other entities. It seems Frank and Waite liked to buy and build properties, but then they got bored with them and gave them away! Nice folks :-).
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:41:40 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
To: UPcrawfish
Ahhh Philmont. I was a part of crew 615-P last summer. Our crew did 85 miles visiting places like Baldy, Cimmeron Ceto, Pablano Ruins, Tooth of Time. We save mule deer, bear, rattle snakes.I would not trade the experience for anything!
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:43:21 PM PST
by
reagandemo
(The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
To: reagandemo; SandRat; franky
I predict that the BSA will loose in the 9th District and win in the SC on appeal.Me too.
A waste of BSA money that could have been spent on helping boys.
Which I figure is part of the strategy. First, to deny the BSA access to public facilities and resources wherever possible. Second, to bleed money from the BSA by forcing it to spend money on lawyers instead of the Scouts they exist to serve.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:44:13 PM PST
by
RonF
To: RonF
ACLU strategy = sue their adversaries into bankruptcy.
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:48:54 PM PST
by
reagandemo
(The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
To: RonF
The ACLU works to
....bleed money from the BSA by forcing it to spend money on lawyers instead of the Scouts they exist to serve>Just reinforces the truth in the association of the ACLU and NAMBLA!
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posted on
02/20/2006 12:50:05 PM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: mlc9852
Bringing any case that involves morals, ethics or freedom to the 9th Circuit is like playing Russian Roulette with 5 in the cylinder.
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