Posted on 02/21/2006 9:53:32 AM PST by presidio9
My question is and has been where did Darwin's "warm little pond" come from? I.e., where did this little sphere we call "earth", little warm ponds and all, come from? The "Big Bang"? Who, or what pulled the trigger? That to me is the fundemental question. The only answer has to be an "intelligent" creator. Cold, empty space does not just go "BANG!" on it's own. Call it faith if you like, but I like to think that it is, as Mr. Spock was wont to say, "logical".
Is there only 1 form of life?
If not, then random processes should have evolved a huge number of alternate forms of life not based on DNA, here on earth alone
If our life form is singular, then given the complexity of the simplest form of life it is mathematically inconceivable (tends to infinity) that random process and random enviromental variables would all conspire to create the 1 and only system of processes that comprise life.
BTW: Since evolution favors the strong, then there should be many other species of life that have attained much similar levels of intelligence, theology, language, creativity, tool making, abilities to synthesize ideas and predict future trends, etc, as man.
*snort*
> Do you always condescend to people?
To the newage types, you bet.
> what more evidence you would need to prove that life is a force
Life is not a force. It is a result of natural forces.
> You have no evidence that raw materials self assembled themselves into the first life.
Keep those eyes and that brain closed! That's a good supernaturalist...
> The only answer has to be an "intelligent" creator.
Really? How about Azathoth?
> Cold, empty space does not just go "BANG!" on it's own.
Actually, it does. Look up "quantum foam."
> random processes should have evolved a huge number of alternate forms of life not based on DNA
And early on, perhaps that occured. But the DNA-based life won.
> Since evolution favors the strong, then there should be many other species of life that have attained much similar levels of intelligence, theology, language, creativity, tool making, abilities to synthesize ideas and predict future trends, etc, as man.
What makes you say that? "Strong" and "tool user with musical ability" are not necessarily the same thing. Humanity has come close to extinction at least once (Toba explosion), while "dumber" animals got by just fine. Theology, as Islamists demonstrate, is not sufficient to make one long-term survivable.
Evolution is not directed towards some sort of goal of a superbeing. Evolution simply favors those forms that are best at reproducing themselves. By that reckoning, the bacteria and the bugs have us humans beat by a mile.
Spoken like a true high priest.
Your faith surpasses all others my son.
Please. You newage types are amusing with your "forces" and your "vortexes" and whatnot, but it's clear you don't even understand what the words even mean.
New age types, eh?
If you actually had something to teach people and were not only concerened with asserting your sense of superiority, you wouldn't write to people as you do.
I think I may have used that once to clean my tires.
One problem with silicon-based life is that the combustion product that is the equivalent of CO2 is SiO2 = quartz. It tends to irritate the throat when exhaling.
??? What are you talking about???
You wrote in post #25:
Life is not a force. It is a result of natural forces.
You think that because you put the word "natural" in front of the word "force" that it gives you some kind of special power of persuasion?
You are a high priest. And we know what your religion is...
> regard the most important part of our existence as not existing
Oh, do tell: what is "the most important part of our existence?"
This should be good.
>>Life is not a force. It is a result of natural forces.
> You think that because you put the word "natural" in front of the word "force" that it gives you some kind of special power of persuasion?
Nope. But when I point out that life is not a force, but is the *result* of forces, that gives me the special power of being *factually* *accurate.*
If so, then apart from obvious appearances, what distinguishes you from - say - a rock?
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