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(Muhammad)Cartoon debate heats up at forum
Badger herald ^ | 2/22/2006 | Michael Gendall

Posted on 02/22/2006 12:59:47 PM PST by Thunder90

A wide range of panelists assembled Tuesday to discuss the wisdom and ethics of the decision to reprint a controversial cartoon in The Badger Herald last week.

The cartoon, which depicted the Islamic prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban, accompanied an 800-word editorial advocating the “sacred right” of freedom of speech.

The cartoon’s original Sept. 2005 publication in a Danish newspaper continues to spur a heated reaction — sometimes violent — from Muslims worldwide.

“I believe a newspaper, when possible, should give people the information they need to conduct intelligent, well-informed debate,” Mac VerStandig, editor in chief of The Badger Herald, said at Tuesday’s forum.

While none in attendance questioned the Herald’s right to print the cartoon, several panelists — including University of Wisconsin history professor emeritus Kemal Karpat — argued the newspaper abused that right.

“Here is the danger of freedom when it is in the hands of people who are not sufficiently understanding of the world in which they live,” Karpat said. “Such freedoms can be abused when people have the means to utilize them to express their own personal preferences, likes and dislikes.”

But VerStandig insisted the Editorial Board’s decision to print the cartoon was based on its newsworthiness, rather than any religious or political statement the Herald itself wished to convey. Specifically, he said, the decision came after University of Illinois Chancellor Richard Herman reprimanded the college newspaper there for reprinting six of the original Danish cartoons, bringing the issue from an international focus to a regional one.

“I believe in the libertarian principles that say that we gave you all the information, you can each draw your own intelligent conclusions about what’s going on in the news, what’s going on in Illinois and what’s going on throughout the world,” VerStandig said. “We printed this cartoon to help give you that information. We printed this cartoon because other people weren’t.”

Suri Kempe, the MultiCultural Student Coalition’s representative on the panel, said the Herald made an editorial decision to endorse the anti-Islamic speech the cartoon represented.

Implied in the protection of freedom of speech, Kempe argued, is that the defender of speech — The Badger Herald, in this case — is protecting speech that it believes in.

“I mean, what is the point of publishing something just for the sake of publishing it?” Kempe said. “By reprinting this picture, The Badger Herald — as an institution — claims the right to clearly express that it believes … [that Muhammad] is a terrorist, and that by extension it’s calling all Muslims terrorists.”

VerStandig, however, continued to defend the ethics behind the newspaper’s decision, referencing the accompanying editorial.

“The editorial we wrote alongside this cartoon … made absolutely clear that we think it is a repugnant and disgusting cartoon and that we don’t endorse the ideology that comes with it,” he said. Following the formal panel discussion, VerStandig entertained questions from an audience largely critical of the newspaper’s stance.

UW Chancellor John Wiley attended the discussion, and in his introduction to the event he promised all attendees would leave with memories and increased understanding the likes of which would not be encountered in any ordinary classroom experience.

“This is really in many ways what a university is all about,” Wiley said. “This kind of debate about real issues that are on us at the moment — not things that are considered in a theoretical context in a classroom — things that are actually happening and affecting people’s lives.”

TOPICS: Extended News; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 12cartoons; cartoon; cartoons; madison; madistan; warofthe12cartoons
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To: weegee

Well, take into account that muzzies want to be as close to mod-mo's way of life as possible, and given the known history of that pedophile...your guess is as good as mine.

21 posted on 02/22/2006 1:58:21 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: weegee

There are many anti-christs. Not so many false prophets.

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

22 posted on 02/22/2006 1:59:41 PM PST by PaxMacian
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To: bayouranger

I haven't checked Ask The Imam about that but I have seen several questions where they ask if it is still valid under Islam to have sex slaves. The Imam agree "yes" but say that slavery is out of fashion for now. Also they say that the slaves must be seized in jihad and taken to an Islamic territory to be divided up.

The standby answer is that Mohammed was the last prophet and so no Islamic laws will ever change. Whatever "went" in the days of Mo' are still okay today.

23 posted on 02/22/2006 2:06:49 PM PST by weegee ("...the left can only take power through deception" -W. Chambers, former mem of Communist Party USA)
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To: PaxMacian
To hear the Mass Media spin in, my post #20 would be verbotten even though it is factually correct (Mohammed came after Jesus and he denies the spirituality Christians find in Jesus).

Now neither side can "prove" which is correct (that is faith) but I should not have to suppress my faith and support theirs. That is why my ancestors came to America.

The only "reformation" I can visualize for Islam (since Mohammed's Islam cannot be altered) is reject it and return to the Bible as Jews or Christians (depending on whether the ex-muslims can accept Jesus). I don't see much consideration for it but again, I state a truth.

And muslims are perfectly free to go down the path they have chosen BUT they cannot expect any reverence from the rest of the world or those of other faiths. Co-existence means as equals, we will not be lesser.
24 posted on 02/22/2006 2:13:07 PM PST by weegee ("...the left can only take power through deception" -W. Chambers, former mem of Communist Party USA)
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To: Thunder90
A Muslim

Professor Emeritus Kemal Karpat

PhD: New York University MA: Univ. of Washington BA: Univ. of Istanbul

Area: Modern Europe

Specialization: The Middle East (modern); Balkans, Migration Movements and Nationhood; Ottoman Empire & Modern Turkey

Research and Teaching Interests: Teaching fields : Europe, Middle East, Central Asia. Current Research : “People's Houses and the Development of Turkish Populism and Nationalism" and "Settlement of Refugees and Immigrants in the Middle East, 1850-1914"

Selected Publications: The Politicization of Islam (Oxford University Press, 2001) The Ottoman Past and Today's Turkey (Brill, 2000) Studies on Ottoman History (Brill, 2002)

And a Socialist

Students from several University of Wisconsin campuses around the state began a three-day hunger strike Monday, asking state legislators to alter their stand on tuition, which has jumped 37.5 percent since 2003.

UW, UW-Eau Claire and UW-LaCrosse are participating in the hunger strike. The strike includes several Madison groups including the Associate Students of Madison, the Student Labor Action Coalition, the MultiCulturual Student Coalition, Green Progressive Alliance, MEChA and the Teaching Assistant Association.

... Students in Madison are demanding tuition be rolled back to its 2003 standing, rather than allow Gov. Jim Doyle's executive budget proposal of a 5 to 7 percent increase in the next two years.

... The raised tuition may also affect students of color.

Coordinator for the Diversity Education Program Suri Kempe said tuition hikes are not only an economic issue but also a racist policy. "Raising tuition by 56 percent only feeds a racist system that marginalizes communities of people and denies them entry into college and opportunities for a better life," Kempe said.

They should both be sent back. Instead, they are both trying to exercise censorship over a newspaper on an American university campus.
25 posted on 02/22/2006 2:30:32 PM PST by Ragnar54
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To: Thunder90

When we (the American left) say "Free Speech/Press" - we don't mean for you.

"The People" can't handle freedom - that's why they need us.

26 posted on 02/22/2006 2:32:33 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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27 posted on 02/22/2006 3:52:02 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Ragnar54

Stop the War! was also at that sit-in.

28 posted on 02/22/2006 6:28:02 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: PaxMacian
But, they bow several times a day to their idol, Mecca.

Actually, they bow to a rock(supposedly a meteorite), embedded in a cube and kissed by every muslim able to do the ancient pagan ritual called the haj(if they don't get trampled).
29 posted on 02/22/2006 7:07:28 PM PST by BabsC
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To: Thunder90

Kemal Karpat is just another mindless Mad Moe butt boy.

30 posted on 02/23/2006 9:40:37 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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