Posted on 02/22/2006 9:14:11 PM PST by vanderleun
The Demonic Duo"
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I'm saying you're right, and anyone who thinks Bill Clinton can't be elected VP and later ascend to the presidency is wrong.
Two-term presidents are *only* prohibited from being *elected*. There is definitely no prohibition on ascending to the presidency via line of succession. Two-term presidents remain eligible to the office (they just can't be elected).
The constitutional clause that spells out who is eligible to serve as president (as opposed to be elected president) prohibits those under 35 and non-natural born citizens from serving, but not two-term former presidents. The ammendment against two-termers clearly applies only to elections, not successions.
What is even more disturbing to me than Hillary winning the Presidency, is her being appointed to a Cabinet Post (such as National Security Advisor, Sec. of Defense or Homeland Security Chief) by 'whatever' Democrat that could possibly beat 'whatever' Republican that runs.
That really makes me ill.
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
I really believe that this person did not do any research before they wrote their article. This says it as plain as day. Piss-poor reporting.
I expect Al Gore to go after his pound of flesh and he won't be easy to kill off. He knows as much about them as they do about him.
He's right, the XXII Amendment is very poorly drafted, probably because the drafters could not imagine someone with the ethical standards of TRIPOTUS ascending to high office in the first place.
I actually believe that he is right, in a constitutional sense, because of the poor language used in XXII - he is not "ineligible to the office of President", inasmuch as he is 35 years old, a native born US citizen, and resident for the previous 14 years.
He just can't reach the Oval Office again by election.
He is 35 years old.
He is a native born US citizen.
He will have been a legal US resident for the fourteen years prior to January 20, 2009.
There are no other tests of eligibility to the office.
There IS a test of eligibility for ELECTION to the office in the XXII Amendment, which means Bill cannot be elected President again.
But since the VP does not ascend to the office of President by election, the constitution does not make him ineligible for election to the Vice Presidency, as it would, for example, if he were a legal resident of China.
You're wrong, Bill is not constitutionally ineligible to the office.
What, in your opinion, makes Bill Clinton "constitutionally ineligible to the office"?
It sure would be nice to have a candidate that views the Office of the President as an honor and responsibility rather than a prize. That's just me, I guess.
This idea get floated every six months or so...until almost everyone agrees it would be illegal. It's getting boring....
If one is ineligible to be elected President, then one is ineligible to serve as Vice President.
Why?
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Bubba is a non-starter...
Is he not 35 years old? Was he not born in the USA? Has he not been a US resident for the past 14 years?
What other qualifications exist in the constitution?
Per the 23rd Amendment, having been elected to the office of the President twice, he is no longer eligible for that office. Ergo, he is no longer eligible to serve as Vice President, either.
Open and shut case.
After next January, GWB will become "inelligible to be elected", but remain "eligible to the office", and thus will continue to serve two more years.
A "Cheney for pres - GWB for VP" ticket would also be legal in 08.
Bill is running as hard as he can for Secretary General of the UN.
They are planning a (Hillary) Clinton Presidency as a compliment to a (Bill) Clinton world leadership savior combo. The pitch will be to elect Hillary, not for her own sake, but as a "true partner" with Bill at the UN. Hillary as President can cede all sorts of US sovereignty to the UN in order to give Bill "the tools he needs... for the children."
All the better if they can arrange a rogue nuke strike in the US or Europe or a regional nuclear war somewhere.
And there's no term limit on the office of Secretary General.
It's the 22nd Amendment, and this is what it says:
"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. "
This is far from an "open and shut case" that persons who have been elected twice somehow become "ineligible to the office" by the terms of the 12th Amendment.
What they are ineligible for is becoming president a third time by way of an election.
Now, obviously, the INTENT of the drafters of this amendment was to prevent tenure in office of more than eight years, but they did not write that amendment, and that's not the amendment that the states ratified.
The 22nd Amendment, as it actually exists, regulates elections, not eligibility to office, and does not amend the qualifications clause of Twelve.
In fact, as Flashlight points out, if being elected twice made a person "ineligible to the office" in a Twelfth Amendment sense, second term presidents could not be sworn in.
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