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Campus Newspaper Raffles AK-47
news channel 7 ^ | February 22, 2006 | Alison Storm

Posted on 02/28/2006 8:15:57 PM PST by Flavius

Alison Storm News Channel 7 Wednesday, February 22, 2006

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His goal in life? Run the White House. Andrew Davis' goal for the week? Raise money for the newspaper he edits. "I just did a large expose on parking services." It's a conservative paper on Clemson's campus, pages known as delicious, conservative brain-food. "We make no qualms about being very biased of the right wing," he says. To help pay for printing costs, 20-year-old Andrew organized a raffle for a rifle: an AK-47. "We're hoping with this event to show people the AK-47 is no more dangerous than a knife or a car," he says.

Stashed in the basement of Clemson's library among thousands of books, on page 138 is Andrew's motivation. "The Second Amendment is one of our least appreciated that we have and probably the one that is most attacked. We hope this event will raise awareness for the Second Amendment," says Andrew. Not everyone on campus is pleased with the paper's idea. Andrew says he's heard from a faculty member and a student who plan to protest.

But he has found support from campus leaders. "The reaction from the administration has not been one to shut these people down but to let students exercise these rights," says Andrew. And that's a lesson this student hopes to take all the way to the White House. Raffle tickets go on sale February 27th through March 2nd. Organizers plan to offer them on campus near the main library from 9am until 3pm for a $5 donation. For more information you can e-mail Andrew at observr@clemson.edu


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KEYWORDS: ak47; bang; banglist; clemson; guncontrol; gunporn; guns; kalashnikov
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not the auctioned item

1 posted on 02/28/2006 8:15:58 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Doubtful, as was pointed out in an earlier story.

An AK-47 is a select-fire weapon. Probably a cheap semi-auto copy.


2 posted on 02/28/2006 8:21:05 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Flavius

He should have raffled an AR15

Tho I got nothing against AKs


3 posted on 02/28/2006 8:22:06 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius
Click Here

4 posted on 02/28/2006 8:22:36 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

this is a double post? does it need to be yanked?


5 posted on 02/28/2006 8:22:45 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius

Owwww... VEPR II AK47

One of the nicest russian AKs available in the US


6 posted on 02/28/2006 8:23:16 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: All

Not the exact auctioned item either, but perhaps closer.
7 posted on 02/28/2006 8:23:21 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

AKM


8 posted on 02/28/2006 8:23:57 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius

Nah...

It was much earlier in the day. Needs some more play.


9 posted on 02/28/2006 8:24:02 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: monkapotamus

that ones romanian


10 posted on 02/28/2006 8:24:52 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius

Andrew says he's heard from a faculty member and a student who plan to protest...for more information you can e-mail Andrew at observr@clemson.edu .

The kid deserves a little support.


11 posted on 02/28/2006 8:26:02 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Flavius
Raffle this 8mm yugo M76 and Im in!


12 posted on 02/28/2006 8:28:23 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: monkapotamus

***Not the exact auctioned item either, but perhaps closer.***

Dam! I'm slobbering all over the keyboard!


13 posted on 02/28/2006 8:30:29 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: Flavius
Why didn't they raffle off something really usefull?

The times change, but The New York Slimes just stays the same...

14 posted on 02/28/2006 8:33:28 PM PST by Bender2 (Redid my FR Homepage just for ya'll... Now, Vote Republican and vote often)
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To: Flavius


I'd like an AK 47 - where do I buy a ticket?


15 posted on 02/28/2006 8:34:09 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: Flavius
OK I'm going to say it.

The pro gun crowd have gone over the top on this one. There is no place on a U campus for weapons automatic or otherwise.

If stunts like this are what American students are spending their time on then they are neglecting their studies.

This sort of agit prop nonsense is going is turning American Universities into under performing second rate political mosh pits.

The world is laughing at you and crying for you.
16 posted on 02/28/2006 8:34:09 PM PST by beaver fever
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AK-47...When you absolutely, positively have to kill every mother in the room...accept no substitutes.


17 posted on 02/28/2006 8:36:32 PM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: beaver fever
The world is laughing at you and crying for you.

Sorry. Can't take you seriously with a name like Beaver Fever.

Perhaps you can post on the cultural relativism of Animal House

18 posted on 02/28/2006 8:41:21 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: mylife
"Tho I got nothing against AKs"

I do , they have killed far too many good Americans. They
flood the third world making every punk revolutionary and radical like God over their unarmed neighbors. Don't see any
M-16's in Africa do you? Just AK's. If you want an AK buy a Galil , it's better karma .
19 posted on 02/28/2006 8:41:29 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Flavius
Cant find a decent pic but the one on top is reflective ov my VEPR cal .308

Not a true AK. Its better!

20 posted on 02/28/2006 8:41:54 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Karma smarma

Those AKs killed no one

The guy on the trigger did


21 posted on 02/28/2006 8:43:19 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Junk. Real People own H&K's.


22 posted on 02/28/2006 8:43:39 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: beaver fever

A number of colleges have competitive shooting teams. Even Yale teaches trap and skeet as physical activities. So yes, there are places for guns on colleges. The Constitution is still in effect on college campuses. In spite of what the academics say contrarywise.


23 posted on 02/28/2006 8:44:40 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: beaver fever

The weapon is not actually on campus. Essentially, they are raffling off a voucher to be cashed in at the local gun store. Once there is a winner, he/she will need to go through all the legal channels to obtain the weapon. From my understanding, the weapon is not, nor will it ever be, on the campus. There is a weapons ban at Clemson. I do not believe it will even be purchased until there is a winner, and he/she passes the background tests, etc.


24 posted on 02/28/2006 8:45:39 PM PST by SC33
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To: RKV

There is actually a competitive air-rifle team at Clemson. Though, to my knowledge, they are not involved with the raffle.


25 posted on 02/28/2006 8:46:50 PM PST by SC33
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To: Westlander

I cant afford HKs

I have 2 cetmes tho that I'd shoot against a G3

I cant see spending 1500 bucks for something that is the same as a 300 gun minus cosmetics

I love the Cetme design though heavy its like shooting a 22 in .308

requires some maintenence but so does the G3


26 posted on 02/28/2006 8:49:20 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius

So much fuss over one weapon. And to think this used to be a military school.


27 posted on 02/28/2006 8:50:56 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: beaver fever
There is no place on a U campus for weapons automatic or otherwise.

Bulls**t. I had several guns in my dorm at Dartmouth, and shot them in the deep woods behind.

Guns belong anywhere men are free.

-ccm

28 posted on 02/28/2006 8:50:57 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

People just go nuts over the appearance of the AK, they see it as uber deadly.

There are far more deadly weapons out there, but the AK has reached Icon status amongst the masses.

They are great guns for what they are designed to do but people ascribe far more wow factor than they deserve.


29 posted on 02/28/2006 8:55:42 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

I believe the one being auctioned is the semi-auto type. It is not even the full auto.


30 posted on 02/28/2006 8:56:49 PM PST by SC33
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To: ccmay

So how is that Integral Calculus mid term going? Are you ready for it?


31 posted on 02/28/2006 8:58:24 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: SC33

absolutly semi auto.

Youd have to have a class III liscence just to enter the drawing otherwise.

IMO full auto isnt value added, its spray and pray


32 posted on 02/28/2006 8:59:24 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SC33
So what's the point?

They could auction off the collected works of Bertrand Russell or the Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy or Theory of Wing Sections ISBN: 0486605868 by
I. H. Abbott.

All three of those book prizes would actually be useful to someone who was attending a University for a serious purpose beyond Frat Parties.

How does and AK/AK copy ad to your education?
33 posted on 02/28/2006 9:05:47 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: beaver fever

Im not even saying I necessarily think it is a good idea. I'm just trying to get some of the details out there, because alot of people are confused about the whole situation.


34 posted on 02/28/2006 9:07:15 PM PST by SC33
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To: beaver fever

If 60 people enter at 5 bucks they make even.
There are how many students at clemson?


35 posted on 02/28/2006 9:12:33 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 15,000 total, grads and undergrads.


36 posted on 02/28/2006 9:13:44 PM PST by SC33
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To: ccmay

"Guns belong anywhere men are free." Well said.


37 posted on 02/28/2006 9:13:48 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Flavius

I realize that it's South Carolina, so I'll try to get clarification...
Is it a "raffle", a "rifle", or a "raffle of a rifle"?


38 posted on 02/28/2006 9:16:13 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SC33

so if 1 % enter 150 entrants = 750 bucks

Thats a profit of 400 bucks on a 350 investment


39 posted on 02/28/2006 9:20:36 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: beaver fever
They could auction off the collected works of Bertrand Russell or the Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy or Theory of Wing Sections ISBN: 0486605868 by I. H. Abbott.

Are you for real?

First off, guns are still legal. Your attitude only reinforces that guns are zaprescheny for the proletariat.

Besides, who the hell is going to buy raffle tickets for the collected works of Bertrand Russell?

40 posted on 02/28/2006 9:36:47 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"who the hell is going to buy raffle tickets for the collected works of Bertrand Russell?"

001% of the people or less

41 posted on 02/28/2006 9:42:16 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius; All

This guy and his paper need support. Everyone could use another gun. Let's see if FR can't buy more tickets than the students.


42 posted on 02/28/2006 9:45:10 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Flavius

Milled or stamped?


43 posted on 02/28/2006 9:45:43 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: beaver fever

"This sort of agit prop nonsense is going is turning American Universities into under performing second rate political mosh pits."

Too late. They are well past that.
I have to say it is a clever way to get some publicity.


44 posted on 02/28/2006 9:47:02 PM PST by Kirkwood ("When the s*** hits the fan, there is enough for everyone.")
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To: mylife
001% of the people or less

LOL! Yeah, his mother and aunt!

45 posted on 02/28/2006 9:51:55 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

So you don't like Bertrand Russell?

Have you read anything by Bertrand Russell?

Why not raffle a case of Wild Turkey on Campus?

How about a $1000 gift certificat to Victoria Secret.

That should raise academic standards.


46 posted on 02/28/2006 10:27:25 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Kirkwood

Well Kirkwood, clever is a clown pants substitute for intelligence.

I here what you're sayin', testify brother!!!


47 posted on 02/28/2006 10:29:44 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Flavius

Hey I won an 870 wingmaster "on campus" at Cal Poly SLO in 1976


48 posted on 02/28/2006 10:34:09 PM PST by steelie (Still Right Thinking)
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To: beaver fever

Ah. Enlightenment is beyond comprehension. We must actually raise standards to achieve our goals.


49 posted on 02/28/2006 10:51:38 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

"Ah. Enlightenment is beyond comprehension. We must actually raise standards to achieve our goals."

So you actually mean something by this comment?

If you do please fill me in. I'm on the edge of my chair in rapt anticipation.


50 posted on 02/28/2006 10:57:56 PM PST by beaver fever
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