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Ban on wire transfers by illegals proposed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 03/06/2006 | James Lambert

Posted on 03/06/2006 1:12:39 PM PST by Impeach98

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To: mlc9852
"So are the clerks at the grocery stores where they wire the money via Western Union going to be arrested if it is discovered an "illegal" wired money? Yeah, sounds like a great plan."

Same argument as cigarettes and alcohol. The store gets fines and the employees who keep breaking the law get fired by the store because they can't afford the employee who doesn't enforce the law.

Good idea.

21 posted on 03/06/2006 1:25:43 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Not a lot of illegal aliens with their Wi-Fi logging on to PayPal.

One doesn't need WiFi to use PayPal. All that's needed is a checking account (even that of a cooperating U.S. citizen) and a basic internet connection.

22 posted on 03/06/2006 1:25:57 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: mlc9852

You attitude is why we have the illegal immigration problem today -- a total unwillingness to try things that will help bring this problem under control.

None of the solutions are perfect, but they are all needed to get this problem handled now for national security reasons, if not for the economic hardship it imposes on American citizens.

Many of the governments in Latin America now depend on the American dollars being sent back to the home countries. We need to curtail it so these nations, particularly Mexico, will cooperate with the US Government in making people use the legal immigration system.

Kaloogian, as usual, is out front with ideas to solve problems. That is why he is so popular with conservatives. So stop being so negative and get with the program!


23 posted on 03/06/2006 1:26:19 PM PST by RWGuy
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To: massgopguy
This will force Mexicans to physically take the money back and when they try to cross the border with more than $25 G's it get confiscated.

Either that or it will force them to set up bank accounts at Bank of America for deposits, so people can withdraw the cash down in Mexico...

http://www.bankofamerica.com/newsroom/press/press.cfm?PressID=press.20030929.01.htm&LOBID=5

24 posted on 03/06/2006 1:26:54 PM PST by Vladiator
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To: mlc9852
There's somewhere between 10-15 million. They send back BILLIONS to Mexico. If Kaloogian manages to put in jeopardy even 5-10% of that money then Mexico is in trouble and needs to bargain to stop such a proposal.

It's like Strategic Defense Initiative with the Soviets.

In this case though its addressing where the money is.

Follow the money!

25 posted on 03/06/2006 1:27:44 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98

"Illegals use wire transfers of cash because there is a giant underground cash-for-labor economy that they earn their income from."

They also come into the post office and buy international money orders and mail them to Mexico. They go to convenience stores and buy money orders, specifically drawn on Mexican banks, too.

This is a stupid idea, and it won't work. It will merely make more paperwork for those who deal with this money. So Jesus is an illegal. His cousin, Jose, is a US citizen. So, Jesus goes with Jose to the Western Union and Jose hands the money over and sends the wire. Jose shows his driver's license or his passport, for Pete's sake. The money gets wired.

It's that simple. And for those illegals who don't have a cousin who is a citizen, some enterprising citizen will start a business taking the cash to the Western Union and wiring it off.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.


26 posted on 03/06/2006 1:28:36 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: martin_fierro

Living in California I can tell you that in the spider holes I've seen and the houses with 10+ illegals living in them, not many had DSL, dialup, or Broadband.


27 posted on 03/06/2006 1:28:49 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Even Canada requires foreigners to pay for utilizing its public services. We can't afford to give out public benefits to non-citizens for free. Its not fair to the American taxpayer to ask them to make up the difference. There's no reason in the world why illegal aliens should not be assessed the costs of using public services in this country, whether its public education, health, welfare or social services. Its time they paid their fair share like every one else.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

28 posted on 03/06/2006 1:30:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RWGuy

My idea is and always has been to seriously PUNISH those employers/owners who HIRE illegals! Simple, really. But if you feel better punishing the minimum wage clerks, go right ahead. They can always move on to McDonalds.


29 posted on 03/06/2006 1:31:03 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: MineralMan
I don't think you understand the proposal.

What paperwork are you even talking about.

When a published copy of the proposal is printed I'll try to send you one, because you seem to gloss over the points and don't understand the reasons that illegal aliens use the wire transfers and don't mail the money home in the first place!

30 posted on 03/06/2006 1:31:06 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: goldstategop

I sooo love your Denny Crane signature!


31 posted on 03/06/2006 1:31:39 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: MineralMan

Once again I find myself in total agreement with you!


32 posted on 03/06/2006 1:31:46 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: MineralMan
It's that simple. And for those illegals who don't have a cousin who is a citizen, some enterprising citizen will start a business taking the cash to the Western Union and wiring it off.

Sometimes, I wonder whether a proposed measure to curb illegal immigration is actually intended to curb illegal immigration, or to provide less-than-honest folks a way to make money off of illegal immigration.

Then again, I doubt that any politician would consort with any folks who fit the description of "less-than-honest." (BTW, that last sentence is EXTREME SARCASM).

(((:~)>

33 posted on 03/06/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: mlc9852
"But if you feel better punishing the minimum wage clerks, go right ahead. "

Totally agree with you about the businesses that hire illegals, but remember, alot of the hiring isn't done by big corporations but small time under the table jobs.

And you are not going after the clerks as the target really, just as you aren't going after the clerk at the mini mart who sells tobacco and alcohol to minors.

The people who get into big trouble are the shop owners for not complying with the law, just as the people in this case are the people who run the Money Transfer shop you walk into to send the money. They are in this to make a profit/for cash, and if they lose money from breaking the law then they won't keep looking the other way.

34 posted on 03/06/2006 1:33:54 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98

actually the IRS issues tax payer ids to illegals now so they don't need SSNs. I know there are still some people paying illegals with cash, but the tax ids are how the big corps can hire them.


35 posted on 03/06/2006 1:34:15 PM PST by RolandBurnam (I WANT SOME PORK RINDS!!!!!)
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To: Impeach98
Living in California I can tell you that in the spider holes I've seen and the houses with 10+ illegals living in them, not many had DSL, dialup, or Broadband.

Good thing public libraries don't provide free internet access.

Whoops! They do. (I live in CA, too. Can I also claim to be an expert on that basis?)

36 posted on 03/06/2006 1:34:21 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Vladiator

LOL, when BOA systems crashed and my paycheck didn't get autodeposited. I was offered three times to wire money to Mexico while I was on hold.


37 posted on 03/06/2006 1:34:29 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: mlc9852

"Once again I find myself in total agreement with you!"

Shocking, isn't it? [grin]


38 posted on 03/06/2006 1:35:03 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Impeach98
Actually it is the clerks who sell beer and cigarettes to under-aged kids who end up getting arrested (at least where I live) and the "owners" are free to just hire someone else. Large and small employers/owners should be solely responsible for hiring illegals and severely punished and fined. Won't happen, though.
39 posted on 03/06/2006 1:35:51 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Williams

Zero chance.


40 posted on 03/06/2006 1:36:09 PM PST by Shaun_MD (Submitted for your approval.)
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