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Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)
The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze

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To: ohioWfan

"How far can the hatred of the left and the far right for President Bush go? How far?

The different sides call him different names, but their goal is the same..........to destroy the President........and they don't seem to care if the security of the country goes down with it."




Wha?
I know you weren't posting to me, but you're speaking of the people opposed to the UAE deal correct?

I opposed the deal, and:
A) I support the President, but can disagree with issues.
B) Fail to see how opposing this deal lessens Americas security.



1,001 posted on 03/09/2006 11:49:47 AM PST by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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To: jimbo123

It is a gneralised business analysis. If a US company already knew it could run these ports more efficiently than DP World, they would have made a bid for this part of the business because they could outbid the DP world and still make money.

That's how business transactions generally work. Each company makes a decision about how they can run the business.

We know that P&O was selling because their current management was unwilling or unable to spend the money nececssary to fix up the ports (things like improving the fences around the facilities).

But it is possible that some U.S. company can be "persuaded" to reconsider this deal, and that company can actually be able to handle the deal.

I think the same people will run the ports in any case.

It is certainly better for us that DP World is doing this voluntarily, rather than have a law. The law would have not been efficient, and would have had bad side effects.

So I will say I am cautiously considering whether the end result will be as good as it would have been with DP World. I will close by saying that in general, being part of a larger organization does seem to make for more efficiencies and better operations -- or else everything wouldn't tend to large companies.


1,002 posted on 03/09/2006 11:50:11 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ohioWfan
"This is leftwing driven hysteria. It's most certainly NOT grassroots anything."

LOL, none are so blind as those that refuse to see. Take the blinders off and stop listening to cool-aid drinking dido heads and you might learn something.

1,003 posted on 03/09/2006 11:50:17 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

It matters enough to me that the TRUTH has flown out the window here at FR; I know that doesn't matter to you, being a newbie, even if you're a retread, no doubt.


And you're STILL too dumb to realize NOTHING has changed except some paperwork. The SAME people who unloaded the containers YESTERDAY will be unloading them tomorrow.


1,004 posted on 03/09/2006 11:50:57 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin

turn on Fox W is on.


1,005 posted on 03/09/2006 11:51:03 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: mlc9852
People don't need oil - cars do.

Oh! I see now!!! It's so clear! We just need to convince cars not to live in China or India.

1,006 posted on 03/09/2006 11:51:17 AM PST by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Well, are we all happy now...

I have been gone from my PC for a week, and got home yesterday. I was totally dismayed at the attitude of some on FR.

I only hope the backlash is not as bad as has been predicted.

What I don't understand are those who say "Screw UAE. If they do this, they are not our friends." And have absolutely no clue that the UAE is saying "Screw the US. If they do this, they are not our friends."

Becki

1,007 posted on 03/09/2006 11:51:24 AM PST by Becki (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas.)
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To: jpsb
expect the GOP to take a hard right turn and left Bush all alone in left field.

You are correct. This is what is happening, and the party will now lose to the moderates.

You will not be able to win the elections and you will now lose what we so carefully and patiently achieved.

But you are so blind that you can't see the reality of what you and other conservatives have done.

You blew it all up...

it's all over except for the election results, and I guarantee you that you will not like any of the choices for president when the primary's have completed.

I also expect we will lose the House by 08.

Enjoy! You all deserve what you have created.

1,008 posted on 03/09/2006 11:51:31 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Echo Talon

Signing the Patriot Act, something ELSE a lot of these "deal breakers" are against.


1,009 posted on 03/09/2006 11:52:10 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Cold Heat
It's not mob rule, or Mob rule for that matter.

It's our Congress finally waking up-after agreeing to barter away their own powers, and doing nothing to prevent our economy from being subsumed by potential adversaries-and listening to its constituents.

That's what Congress is there for.

To represent us.

Not the corporate interests of Boeing, or Rayethon, or GE, or Archers Daniel-Midland, but us.

The American public that entrusted them with office, and expects them to fulfill their Constitutionally-obligated duty of oversight.

1,010 posted on 03/09/2006 11:52:28 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: kinghorse
sorry if I'm a little sensitive.

No harm, no foul. :)

1,011 posted on 03/09/2006 11:52:49 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: oceanview

I have consistantly said that no security would change. However, when we saw all the deals DP World had offered as part of the process, it became clear that they were offering significant improvements in physical security of the terminal facilities.

The coast guard had issued physical terminal access rules (like fences) and P&O was unable to meet those rules, which is one of the reasons they were selling. DP World promised to meet and exceed those rules, so they would have made the ports more secure.

But you are correct, it could well be that whatever happens now, those things will be fixed up. I shouldn't be so negative. I feel better about this being voluntary, and being done over time as they can find the right buyers.


1,012 posted on 03/09/2006 11:52:54 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Howlin

yep


1,013 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:19 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: sully777

The enemy of your enemy is your friend.


1,014 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:43 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
It's not mob rule, or Mob rule for that matter. It's our Congress finally waking up-after agreeing to barter away their own powers, and doing nothing to prevent our economy from being subsumed by potential adversaries-and listening to its constituents. That's what Congress is there for. To represent us. Not the corporate interests of Boeing, or Rayethon, or GE, or Archers Daniel-Midland, but us. The American public that entrusted them with office, and expects them to fulfill their Constitutionally-obligated duty of oversight.

Remember that statement of yours when Congress doesn't do anything about the borders, pal.

1,015 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:47 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: TigersEye

LOL - it was a joke. Guns don't kill people - people do. Kinda like that. People are so worked up about this and in the end, I would bet the UAE will find some kind of back door deal and it will happen eventually. And maybe we can build a few more mosques just to keep our "friends" happy.


1,016 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:49 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Cboldt

You missed my artfully subtle joke about "limited liability"

heh!


1,017 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:59 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Old Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

No, I want us to follow the rule of law. The law allowed us to block the transfer of the U.S. companies that owned the leases ONLY IF there was a security impact.

There was no security impact, just an irrational fear. If the mob wanted to lynch black people, we don't just let them because the majority rules.


1,018 posted on 03/09/2006 11:54:16 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: prairiebreeze

They'll be 100% justified IMHO.

I can't believe the ignorance on behalf of a good chunk of our Congressman. I usually don't believe in chocking things up to racism, but I really don't know what else it is. Other then the fact that they are arabs, there isn't anything different then the British companies that run some ports.


1,019 posted on 03/09/2006 11:54:19 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: sully777
Are you referring to 9-10 principles or 9-11 principles?

Did the principles of honor and integrity change on 9/11? Mine didn't.

1,020 posted on 03/09/2006 11:54:23 AM PST by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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