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John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts...
Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/22/2006 8:58:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/23/2006 2:06:21 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Re: Your attempt to shut down political free speech on the Internet

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts to find even one thread, one post, one paragraph, one sentence or even one lousy word posted to this web site that is not fully protected by the First Amendment!

And I will extend that to one chapter, one group, one poster or any group of posters on this forum. Name one assembly, petition, letter, protest, meeting or rally convened, filed, submitted, attended or supported by members of this forum that is not 100% protected and guaranteed as free speech or free assembly by the First Amendment!

Your McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation is a treasonous act. You and your cohorts are attempting to subvert the Constitution of the United States of America, the very same constitution that you swore an oath to defend, so help you God! That makes you a domestic enemy of that great document and a traitor to your country. Yes, and Benedict Arnold was a war hero before he turned traitor too.

How dare you even think that you are qualified to sit in the oval office! Ronald Reagan's office! President? Hah! You miserable excuse for a two-bit political hack, you're not even qualified to shine Ronald Reagan's boots. If you do run, I'm afraid you're gonna be at least one vote short. It'll be a cold day in hell before a traitor like you ever receives my vote. And that's a campaign promise you can take to the bank.

You can take your fascist campaign finance laws and the jackbooted FEC anti-free-speech enforcers you are empowering and put them where the sun don't shine. And if this post is in violation of your unconstitutional law, shove it too!


Paraphrased from In the Face of Evil: Reagan's War in Word and Deed:

The Beast never dies, it simply changes form. The Beast has known many forms: Bolshevism, communism, Nazism, fascism. The Beast has had many names: Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, Mao, Pol Pot.

The Beast cannot co-exist with freedom. The very first freedom lost is the freedom of speech, then religion, knowledge and the arts. Anything that empowers the individual must be destroyed. The state must control all.

Power to the state.

Power as an end to itself.

Those who speak out against the Beast are labeled extremists, radicals, warmongers. Churchill, McCarthy, Reagan.

The Beast must be contained, appeased. We must have "Detente" at any cost. Direct confrontation of the Beast must be avoided.

Appease him and pray the wolf may pass our door.

Free speech must die.

The Beast never dies.



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To: inkling

I'm a "zonie" too, and I think Sen. Kyl is great. It's too bad McLame gets all the glory from the media.


751 posted on 03/23/2006 5:09:25 AM PST by IrishRainy
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bump


752 posted on 03/23/2006 5:13:49 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: ZULU
The media is trying to freeze out Rice and Allen and Pence.

BINGO! (not to mention the web!)

753 posted on 03/23/2006 5:17:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: PJ-Comix

"Um...yeah. It even affects people being able to express their own opinions on their own blogs or on Web forums such as here on the FR."

I'm not saying you are wrong but I read every word of the thing last night and don't see how it effects unpaid speech. I realize that at least one county judge has ruled that way but that appears to be judicial abuse rather than reading the law as written.

Do you know what part of the bill people believe will prevent unpaid political statements by people not affiliated with a campaign on forums?

If the bill really does that then, of course, it will be a huge issue - big enough to prevent McCain from getting the nomination, I would think.


754 posted on 03/23/2006 5:17:53 AM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: AndrewC
The Beast never dies, it simply changes form.

So true.....

And so if it is between two Beasts .....the quandry is "what to do"?.....McCain or The Beast? There are many who would not vote at all...take the Perot route and in effect vote for her and therefore let her take it and watch the place go up in flames.


755 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:39 AM PST by pop-gun (A dumbed down population is more dangerous to our country than terrorism.)
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To: MRMEAN

Here's a poem to explain what happened to me in an awkward moment during the State of the Union

 
 
Okay, ready?

My shorts were up my crack,
So get off my back.

There. That explains why I was standing when Bush started his typical b*&^%&^ about tax cuts and making them permanent. The ol' tighty-whities were climbing mighty, you might say. Whooo. So, I was clapping when I stood up because all of those radical right-wing Republican wannabes are preening for the camera in an election year.

If I don't clap, Frist gives me the cold stare like ... oh, Mikulski when she's smiling. You get the picture.

So, don't make too much of it. I will "move right" and all that bravo sierra for the radical religious Republican base.

And then it's off to Mavericksville, baby.

LOL!!!!

756 posted on 03/23/2006 5:21:50 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Beast never dies, it simply changes form. The Beast has known many forms: Bolshevism, communism, Nazism, fascism. The Beast has had many names: Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, Mao, Pol Pot.

The Beast is alive and well in the United States in the likes of McCain, the Clintons and others. And I fear that they are far more dangerous and insidious than any foreign enemy we have ever faced.

757 posted on 03/23/2006 5:26:19 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee; jimrob
The Beast is alive and well in the United States in the likes of McCain, the Clintons and others. And I fear that they are far more dangerous and insidious than any foreign enemy we have ever faced.

AMEN! It has always been thus! At least for 2500 years or so!

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague." Cicero, About 2500 years ago

758 posted on 03/23/2006 5:32:48 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: onyx
That's why term limits are needed.

Term limits are a terrible idea. They ensure EVERY politician has one full lame duck term where they can do whatever they want as they aren't accountable to the voter next election. And when we actually do find and elect a good representative, term limits prohibits us from keeping him in office. The framers of the Constitution considered term limits and rejected them. As do I. There are things that are broken and dishonest incumbents are too hard to dislodge. So let's fix what's broken without shooting ourselves in the foot.

759 posted on 03/23/2006 5:33:10 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Jim Robinson

Great posting!!!!


760 posted on 03/23/2006 5:35:05 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Jim Robinson

bump


761 posted on 03/23/2006 5:35:11 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: All; Jim Robinson

I don't feel so negatively about McCain. In the long run, and perhaps even in the short run, no one's free speech is going to be limited. Some are raising alarm about Internet sites being shut down prior to an election, a la billboards and other political ads, but, as someone once said, monkeys will fly out my butt before that happens.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, McCain has disappointed me at times--even made me furious. But when it comes to the war on terror he is fiercely committed. And that's my number one issue right now.


762 posted on 03/23/2006 5:37:55 AM PST by zook
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To: Howlin
Only STUPID ones would vote third party and hand over the White House to the Democrats.

Hmmm...hand the White House to a liberal Democrat vs. handing it to a dangerous liberal psychopath treasonous bastard who is cancer on the Republican Party, Congress, and the nation. I'm not going to be a party to either.

763 posted on 03/23/2006 5:38:00 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Jim Robinson

BRAVO!


764 posted on 03/23/2006 5:39:59 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Jim Robinson

Ahem. Mega bump.


765 posted on 03/23/2006 5:41:48 AM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I stand with you Jim.

I'm done with these reptiles, snakes, that call themselves legislators who want to destroy the greatest nation ever on earth. From within.
766 posted on 03/23/2006 5:47:40 AM PST by A message
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To: Jim Robinson

I'll vote from Abe Lincoln before I'd vote for McCain.

Even if that vote put Hillary Clinton in the Oval Office.


767 posted on 03/23/2006 5:47:52 AM PST by usmcobra (I always sing Karaoke the way it is meant to be sung, drunk, badly, and in Japanese)
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To: Howlin
Amen, sister! That and the Electoral College do it for me.

I got news for you. If McCain is the GOP nominee then Hillary or whatever Dem wins their primary gets the White House. I don't want a Dem in the White House, but I don't want a treasonous bastard like McCain in there either. They're equally dangerous to our country. So, you better get busy and work to ensure that McCain does not win the nomination if you want to see a Republican in the White House. Inaction on this is basically a vote for Hillary Clinton for President. I'm already working on some things to expose McCain and end his political career. You need to get to work too or your worst nightmares will be realized. That is what is at stake and Jim Robinson appears to have recognized that. Get with the program.

768 posted on 03/23/2006 5:48:45 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: MNJohnnie
Scary that Sen McMedia, with his in the closet fascist impulses, is considered a "Leader" in our party.

From what I've seen, it's only the MSM who considers him a 'Republican leader'.

769 posted on 03/23/2006 5:50:55 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Jim Robinson

Pleased to see some common sense about this... person. John McCain is NOT suited to be President of the US.
Frankly, I don't think he's suited for Senator.
Maybe dogcatcher - if you really, really dislike dogs.


770 posted on 03/23/2006 5:53:14 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Signed by Pres Bush though.


771 posted on 03/23/2006 5:54:40 AM PST by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Ain't we lucky?


772 posted on 03/23/2006 5:55:19 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm late to this thread, but mccain is the liberal media candidate.

I'll never forget when mccain won in New Hampshire in 2000, due to a lot of democrat crossover voting, and voila MSNBC had a special about him, the next day.

773 posted on 03/23/2006 5:55:55 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: gondramB

My primary non-policy problem with McCain is his temperament - he is not stable enough to be Presidential material.

I agree with you completely. There is something not quite right about him. I really do think he has a mental illness. He can't be trusted with the presidency.


774 posted on 03/23/2006 5:56:06 AM PST by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for having the courage to be the very type of person McCain is so afraid of.


775 posted on 03/23/2006 5:56:11 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: gondramB
McCaine-Feingold is a threat to America and American liberty. Did you imagine that FreeRepublic would stand immune from such threats?

The barbarians are within the city gates ~ and they've erected their idol in the People's House.

776 posted on 03/23/2006 5:57:34 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Jim Robinson
McCain is such a weasle...

Thanks, Jim.

777 posted on 03/23/2006 5:58:23 AM PST by pointsal
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To: Jim Robinson

McCain reminds me of Capt. Queeg in the movie "The Caine Mutiny". It seems like he has a few screws loose.


778 posted on 03/23/2006 5:58:49 AM PST by Supernatural (Ea wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: Just another Joe
There's always the Constitution party if we have to choose between McCain and Hitlery.
I like the Constitution Party. I just did not like the outlandishness of their last presidential candidate.
779 posted on 03/23/2006 6:00:07 AM PST by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Damn Jim, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.


780 posted on 03/23/2006 6:00:14 AM PST by TEXASPROUD
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To: Porterville

At this time I really don't believe McCain will be the Republican candidate.....even if the GOP, media, or GW push him. Admittedly not being that politically aware back then, I recognized him as a loose cannon before the 2000 election.


781 posted on 03/23/2006 6:02:34 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: Jim Robinson

Don't hold back Jim, tell us how you really feel.

I assume this means you'll fight any attempt to censor FR. My PayPal account is at the ready to donate to a FRee speech defense fund in case lawyers are needed.


782 posted on 03/23/2006 6:04:50 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: DeSoto

"If the 2008 election were to be between Hillary and McCain I would probably choose the third option, suicide. It would be the only logical choice. McCain is just as scary, if not moreso, than Hillary."

You could always buy Alec Baldwin's house in Canada ;)


783 posted on 03/23/2006 6:07:21 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Jim Robinson
Amen to a testimony to free speech. Perhaps a response from Jim has not been made because he was suspended by the moderators. [Just kidding]

I did not find a response from JR as to the timing and passion of his post. But, having been here just over a year now I am embolden to put my two cents in. There are rumblings around DC about putting a gag on blogs for a period of 30-60 days, or so, before elections. This self serving legislation would help protect incumbents from a last minute attack and the possibility they might lose their cushy jobs.

Since Free Republic is founded on freedom of speech, I suspect the very thought of curtailing it prior to an election put JR over the top. [As it should with every one who claims to be a "Freeper"].

The Kerry campaign showed how biased the main stream media is. Were it not for Free Republic and the Swift Boat Vets, we might now be suffering under the presidency of John Kerry. Remember and be alarmed. And remember also that freedom is not free.

If Jim Robinson gave a different reason or I am off base, I apologize to JR and to all. But, this effort to gag blogs is indeed a threat and we all need to fight it.

God bless America and all the military who put their lives on the line to defend our free speech!
784 posted on 03/23/2006 6:07:29 AM PST by FOXFANVOX (Tony Snow Fan: God bless the military)
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To: Jim Robinson

785 posted on 03/23/2006 6:09:28 AM PST by usmcobra (I always sing Karaoke the way it is meant to be sung, drunk, badly, and in Japanese)
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To: Bigun
And if I may add~~~~~~~~
Abraham Lincoln, 27 January 1838:
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. "

786 posted on 03/23/2006 6:10:40 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: zook

The biggest threat to this nation comes from within, not externally, as in terrorism.

It's people like McCain, and all those who vote for him, who would hasten America's demise.


787 posted on 03/23/2006 6:12:10 AM PST by kenth
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To: Jim Robinson

McCain is a mole, who's only currency is the fact that he let himself be captured by the enemy...twice.


788 posted on 03/23/2006 6:12:23 AM PST by TET1968
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To: Khurkris

"Looking forward to McCains reply."

He won't reply. He's senior senator
in our state. He doesn't reply to anything
asked by the common people, much less his
constituents.


789 posted on 03/23/2006 6:13:00 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: jmc1969
McCain may not be the perfect Senator, but he isn't Satan or Hillary.

Pretty darn close if you ask me.

791 posted on 03/23/2006 6:14:09 AM PST by StarCMC (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...thank you Sarge.)
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To: kenth

You have a tendency toward hyperbole. If he runs, I'm voting for him--and there's no one more "American" than me.


792 posted on 03/23/2006 6:14:13 AM PST by zook
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To: Mo1
Someone help me out here.

"....subjecting Internet political speech to campaign-finance regulations..."

Are donations made by Free Republic to specific campaigns or specific candidates?  IOW, would Free Republic (as opposed to Jim Robinson, private citizen) make a donation to Candidate XYZ in the next Presidential election on behalf of all Freepers?

If not, then why could we be regulated as part of CFR:?  Is they answer simply nothing more than because they say it is? In an earllier time I would blow this off and say the courts would never uphold this. Of course, that was before CFR.

793 posted on 03/23/2006 6:16:10 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: zook

Check that: I'm willing to admit there may be a few, but not many.


794 posted on 03/23/2006 6:16:44 AM PST by zook
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To: staytrue
Mccain won't sell the USA down the river like the Clintons.

McCain does know about the military and does respect the men and women serving (unlike the Clintons).

Don't kid yourself. He's a politician first, a veteran after that.

795 posted on 03/23/2006 6:16:44 AM PST by StarCMC (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...thank you Sarge.)
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To: Jim Robinson

And George W. Bush, who violated his oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution by failing to veto this appalling legislation...what of him?


796 posted on 03/23/2006 6:17:10 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: eyespysomething

Just in case you didn't get pinged to this ...

Feingold was on Daily Show last night. "I think all campaigns should be publicly financed," Feingold said (direct quote).

Jon Stewart responded with some gibberish that I didn't hear all of it, but something about the government declaring that "money can't be tied to free speech."

If the election comes down to McCain and Hillary, a strong third party candidate would stand a real chance in '08.


797 posted on 03/23/2006 6:17:29 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You and I know the history of McCain... he is insidious. I think I will start a thread tonight with links, for those who are too young to know of his antics.
Let us know what we can organize... and we'll git er done.


798 posted on 03/23/2006 6:18:42 AM PST by AliVeritas (“Pacifism is objectively pro-Islamo-Fascist.”)
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To: zook

LOL. Glad to know I've not cornered the market on hyperbole.


799 posted on 03/23/2006 6:18:47 AM PST by kenth
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To: Jim Robinson

I really wish you would quit beating around the bush. I see no reason for you to hold back what you really think.


800 posted on 03/23/2006 6:21:44 AM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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