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House and Senate Override Governor Sebelius' Veto: Kansas Passes Right-to-Carry
NRA-ILA ^ | March 23, 2006 | NA

Posted on 03/23/2006 1:50:11 PM PST by neverdem

(Fairfax, VA) – Both the Kansas State Senate and House of Representatives voted to override Governor Sebelius’ veto of the National Rifle Association (NRA)-backed Right-to-Carry legislation, Senate Bill 418, “The Personal and Family Protection Act.”

“After 12 years, it took a collective, bi-partisan effort to win this fight. Kansas now joins 46 other states who enjoy some form of Right-to-Carry,” NRA Chief Lobbyist Chris W. Cox declared.

The Kansas State Senate voted 30 to 10 to override Governor Sebelius’ veto of the Right-to-Carry legislation. Less than a day later, the Kansas House of Representative voted 91-33 to sustain the override.

Cox continued, “We want to recognize the steadfast support of several state leaders. Without their hard work, Kansans would still be deprived of this valuable law. Senator Phil Journey, Representative Candy Ruff, and Representative Gary Hayzlett worked tirelessly on this measure and we thank them.”

Kansas becomes the 47th state with some form of Right-to-Carry. There are now three states that do not allow any form of Right-to-Carry; Nebraska, Illinois and Wisconsin have yet to pass such self-defense legislation.

“As always, we appreciate the commitment and participation of our members in Kansas for helping pass this legislation and helping override the Governor’s veto of this self-defense law,” concluded Cox.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
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1 posted on 03/23/2006 1:50:14 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Score:

Goodguys: 47
Badguys: 3
2 posted on 03/23/2006 1:52:25 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: JamesP81

California and New York are listed as Right-To-Carry, but aren't really - you pretty much can't get a permit there unless you're rich, famous, well connected, or a politician.


3 posted on 03/23/2006 1:54:11 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Squantos; El Gato; DMZFrank; ALOHA RONNIE; risk; Eaker; Mulder; ...
BANG!
4 posted on 03/23/2006 1:57:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

NEBRASKA IS NEXT......


5 posted on 03/23/2006 1:57:55 PM PST by UPcrawfish
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To: JamesP81

Unfortunately, my KS House and Senate Representatives believed that I was not capable of protecting myself, or failing that, that I am a potential criminal, all I need is a "legal" weapon. RINO's both, of course I am surrounded by RINO's and RATs.


6 posted on 03/23/2006 2:02:00 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower - Pies Rock)
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To: neverdem

Over here, too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601717/posts


7 posted on 03/23/2006 2:05:09 PM PST by Buell_X1-1200 (Sorry, I'm tired of thinking of 'catchy' taglines.)
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To: neverdem

Good news ! They're rockin in Topeka.


8 posted on 03/23/2006 2:09:37 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Spktyr
California and New York are listed as Right-To-Carry, but aren't really - you pretty much can't get a permit there unless you're rich, famous, well connected, or a politician.

That "47" number is deceptive, all right. They should be talking about "Shall Issue" states. I guess the NRA is trying to show how out of the mainstream the remaining 3 are, but the "Shall Issue" number is in the high 30's anyway, I think. One step at a time, I guess. Incrementalism worked for the commies for decades, it can work for us.

9 posted on 03/23/2006 2:09:51 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Spktyr

[California and New York are listed as Right-To-Carry, but aren't really - you pretty much can't get a permit there unless you're rich, famous, well connected, or a politician.]

I can't speak for NY but I was humbly corrected on FR by a citizen of N. California when I stated something similiar here. I was a 3 year resident in the San Fran Bay area of California. A permit was nearly impossible to get in the San Fran part. The fellow Freeper aggressively called me out as being wrong and noted that the issue is regional in California.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 2:14:54 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Where's my gun? Finally, I get to use my gun. The wicked witch has been defeated. Kansas is free.
Now all we need is a new governor.


11 posted on 03/23/2006 2:21:07 PM PST by packing heat (A country which kills its own children is a country without hope. - JP II)
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To: Tenacious 1

I'm aware of that - my question is "why is the issue regional at all?"

There should be a state Shall-Issue system with state sovereignty - no little podunk townships (or liberal nests) defying the will of the people and denying them their rights.


12 posted on 03/23/2006 2:21:22 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Buell_X1-1200; Admin Moderator

Yes, I saw it. Thanks for the link. I wanted to post the NRA's announcement for all the work that they did. I thought you should have posted your thread as breaking news. Maybe if you ask the admin moderator pretty, pretty please.

Congratulations Buell_X1-1200 & Kansas!


13 posted on 03/23/2006 2:24:09 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: packing heat
A country which kills its own children is a country without hope. - JP II

Did he really say this? It certainly would confirm my observations and worst fears about the country that should be great.

A country that killed Terri Schiavo better buy disaster insurance.

14 posted on 03/23/2006 2:26:31 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (so who are the "baby killers" now, flower child?)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

True. Though they don't seem to like it much when we turn the tables and use their playbook.


15 posted on 03/23/2006 2:29:58 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: neverdem

Now after serving six years on a Special Forces A-Team I have to go take six hours of instruction on how to handle a pistol.


16 posted on 03/23/2006 2:31:37 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: neverdem

I moved this to breaking news but I broke your title, sorry! What was the original?


17 posted on 03/23/2006 2:33:59 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: neverdem
Nebraska, Illinois and Wisconsin have yet to pass such self-defense legislation.

In the unlikely event the Unicam suddenly develops the cojones to tell that that idiot Ernie Chambers to shut up and sit down, Nebraska will be off this list in a few weeks.

Meanwhile, congrats to Kansas.

18 posted on 03/23/2006 2:40:21 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Spktyr

I prefer the term "May Issue" and "Shall Issue".

New York is a "May Issue" state.


19 posted on 03/23/2006 2:41:54 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: GarySpFc

In a logical world you would be able to get a waiver for your past experience.

Thanks for your service.


20 posted on 03/23/2006 2:44:30 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: neverdem

Kansas bump.


21 posted on 03/23/2006 2:49:35 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: neverdem

22 posted on 03/23/2006 2:51:05 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: Tenacious 1
A permit was nearly impossible to get in the San Fran part. The fellow Freeper aggressively called me out as being wrong and noted that the issue is regional in California.

California is a "may issue" state. The chief law enforcement officer in each county makes the decision. A few of them are pro 2nd amendment and operate with a policy identical to shall issue states. Most are very tight fisted. Politicians and judges get them. The famous and well connected get them. Everyone else has to show up with a pile of documentation to justify issuing the permit.

23 posted on 03/23/2006 2:59:47 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: GarySpFc

I suspect it has more to do with when to use it on stupid criminal civilians in such a way to avoid being tried for manslaughter than general firearms competence. But, that said, the more permits issued, the less crime. Hope they broadcast the numbers. I suspect that the crime rate in Nebraska will rise until they hash this whole issue out. Good luck!


24 posted on 03/23/2006 3:29:30 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: GarySpFc
Check with your local regs.All your qualifications from the service are from the Federal Govt.,which I believe supersede anything less.Not sure though.
25 posted on 03/23/2006 3:30:41 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: Spktyr

There should be a 'Shall Issue' amendment to the Constitution, with any and all opposing it dropped into Afghanistan from 10,00 feet sans parachute


26 posted on 03/23/2006 3:38:57 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, Abolish the IRS DEA and ATF)
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To: proud_yank

Clever graphics.


27 posted on 03/23/2006 4:01:58 PM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: neverdem

Great news for you Kansas residents. I don't expect to see any sensible right to carry laws get passed here on the Left Coast anytime soon...


28 posted on 03/23/2006 4:02:56 PM PST by rockthecasbah (Don't wait for 6 strong men to take you to church.)
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To: rockthecasbah
Great news for you Kansas residents.

Today, I wished I lived in Kansas, Alaska or Vermont. 8^(

30 posted on 03/23/2006 5:16:29 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Spktyr
California and New York are listed as Right-To-Carry, but aren't really - you pretty much can't get a permit there unless you're rich, famous, well connected, or a politician.

Same here in the peoples republic of md. Even though the law says "shall issue" it's up to the State Police to decide if you really need a carry permit.

31 posted on 03/23/2006 5:33:36 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: neverdem

Question: I have a CC permit here in VA. How many states have reciprocity? I was told only TN, but now I hear that's not the case. I KNOW one of you founts of info. has the answer. Thanks.


32 posted on 03/23/2006 5:53:38 PM PST by RayStacy
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To: GarySpFc

You should move to the great state of VA, my man. Mil. Serv. exempts you from the saftey training.


33 posted on 03/23/2006 5:56:18 PM PST by RayStacy
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To: neverdem

Yeah Kansas!


34 posted on 03/23/2006 5:57:49 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: Spktyr

And North Carolina has so many exceptions in it's right to carry law, that it seems more like an entrapment plot to criminalize law abiding citizens,than a right to carry.


35 posted on 03/23/2006 6:06:33 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: Blob
It's in the Constitution for Pete's sake!

That is one of my major gripes. When I first read through the Constitution and reviewed how states were admitted to the union, I believed that a state agreed to be bound by the U.S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land. Somewhere along the line, someone decided that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply unless a given right has been "fully incorporated" by some set of legal activities. That seems like a crock and a cop out. It is unconscionable that a state can cherry pick the laws it chooses to obey. How very convenient to find the First Amendment "fully incorporated", yet the 2nd Amendment is not.

36 posted on 03/23/2006 6:09:44 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: RayStacy
You don't need a fount of info when you can google Concealed Carry Reciprocity. Packing.org Concealed Carry (CCW), Concealed Weapon Permit ...National concealed carry database for CCW news, tracking and cross referencing state CCW laws, state gun laws, and contact information for the offices that ... has crashed!
37 posted on 03/23/2006 6:12:52 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: GarySpFc
I understand your frustration. In Florida a valid DD214 exempts you from the training requirement, as does an active duty military ID. Heck even a certificate from a hunter safety course will do here! Grin and bear it my FRiend. Do whatever it takes to get that permit. Thank you for your service.
38 posted on 03/23/2006 6:14:39 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem

Again, FR scores the info. in mere minutes. Thank you.


39 posted on 03/23/2006 6:18:12 PM PST by RayStacy
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To: neverdem
Excellent!!!

Anyway,

40 posted on 03/23/2006 8:11:19 PM PST by FreeKeys ("Ever notice a lot of the people who are against guns are people who oughta be shot?" -- Tim Wilson)
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To: RedStateRocker
There should be a 'Shall Issue' amendment to the Constitution...

Uh, I think there already is one.

41 posted on 03/23/2006 9:58:40 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I guess I will have to take lessons from my buddy who owns The Bullet Hole.


42 posted on 03/23/2006 9:59:15 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: Spktyr

Like Imus.


43 posted on 03/24/2006 8:20:49 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Spktyr

It's not that difficult here in NY. $150, 4 references and infinite patience (stated 6 month background check is closer to 1 year).


44 posted on 03/24/2006 8:38:35 AM PST by printhead
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To: JamesP81
Of course, the next step will be for opponents to find a loony-left judge to rule the new law "unconstitutional."

Bank on it.

45 posted on 03/24/2006 8:42:20 AM PST by daler
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To: neverdem

The only problem is that the winds in Kansas are so strong that the slugs turn around and come right back at you.


46 posted on 03/24/2006 10:28:11 AM PST by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: UPcrawfish
Yep. Bill is pending in Nebraska and should it clear the Senate, the Governor will sign it. Iowa and Wisconsin will get CCW when they elect GOP Governors.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

47 posted on 03/24/2006 10:32:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

FOr such a red state, why does nebraska not have a right to carry?


48 posted on 03/24/2006 11:08:57 AM PST by SDGOP
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To: Spktyr

I New York is this true upstate? I thought it was local issue.


49 posted on 03/24/2006 11:53:40 AM PST by Reagan 76
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To: GarySpFc

Now that it is passed, lobby to have a the training exemption waived for persons with honorable military service. That should be an easy amendment. I note from your tag line you may have served in MA, where the local police chief may wave the training requirement.


50 posted on 03/24/2006 12:03:48 PM PST by Reagan 76
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