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Majority of Iraqis Endorse Election and Show Optimism
World Public Opinion ^ | March 27th, 2006 | World Public Opinion

Posted on 03/27/2006 7:13:04 PM PST by george76

The majority of Iraqis overall view the recent parliamentary elections as valid, are optimistic that their country is going in the right direction and feel that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein has been worth the costs.

Sunnis, on the other hand...

The poll was conducted for WorldPublicOpinion.org by the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and was fielded by KA Research Limited...

Among the Shia and Kurds optimism is even higher.

Seventy-six percent of Kurds and 84% of Shia say they think the country is headed in the right direction.

the ethnic divisions are very sharp.

Ninety-eight percent of Shia and 91% of Kurds say the hardships were worth it, while 83% of Sunnis say they were not.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldpublicopinion.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; elections; hussein; iraq; iraqielection; islam; koran; kurds; optimism; pollsiniraq; saddam; saddamhussein; shia; sunnis; terrorism; waronterror; wot
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To: Coop

Well, he seemed to really take Jon Stewart by surprise; he also claimed the facts would be coming out.


51 posted on 03/28/2006 7:59:58 AM PST by summer
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To: groovejedi
You missed all the speeches last week? You missed the Press Conference and Helen? You missed Cheney too?

If you don't think he's 'fighting back' you really do need to pay closer attention.

52 posted on 03/28/2006 8:10:02 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: groovejedi

blah blah blah.


53 posted on 03/28/2006 8:13:02 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: summer

I hope he's right about more facts coming out. I like what we've seen from the released DoD articles so far. But I heard this guy on Hannity's radio show, and read an article or transcript somewhere around here and just found him to be rather vague, not particularly credible.


54 posted on 03/28/2006 8:13:36 AM PST by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: ohioWfan

No I didn't miss any of those, but what I did miss was his delivery. Bush can't deliver a speech about much of anythign without stumbling over himself so badly, that you have to really be on his side to understand what he saying with confidence...


55 posted on 03/28/2006 8:14:28 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: groovejedi

That's not what you said.


56 posted on 03/28/2006 8:15:25 AM PST by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: groovejedi

Ok maybe you guys are seeing seomthing I didn't, but from what I seen of the speeches and the conferences, is that Bush still cannot make himself clear on much of anything when it comes to public communication. "blah blah blah" means about the same thing as what I heard from Bush this last week or two and for most of his presidency. He says the same damn things over and over and expects us to act like he's revealed something new and great.
If we all could get over our infactuation with Bush and really try to get some substantial information from him, new information out of him, then maybe everyone, inlcuding democrats and republicans could get a better grip on what he is trying to do with the WOT


57 posted on 03/28/2006 8:18:21 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: Coop

"That's not what you said"
what do you mean? I'm sorry I stepped away for a few to do some work...

maybe I'm wrong on this, it is just my opinion, I stated that in the begginning. but I don't think he is putting up much of a fight... and hasn't in a long time...and is't disappointing


58 posted on 03/28/2006 8:20:05 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: groovejedi
ROFLOL!

You DID miss them, didn't you? Because now, besides the fact that you're changing your tune, you've revealed that you haven't got a clue as to how the President handled himself in any of those situations.

He didn't 'stumble' a bit in the Cleveland speech and Q&A, in the press conference, or the appearance in WVa. He presented all the facts with clarity and intelligence, and fielded hostile questions with grace and strength.

You have exposed yourself as a fraud, groove.

59 posted on 03/28/2006 8:22:47 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: groovejedi
Here's what you said:

even I know that when you see the MSM up there bashing you're every move, you gotta get up there and fight back, and he ain't doin it.. and I never claimed to be the know it all.... I just notice that he's getting the heck beat out of him on the public ring and he needs to refute some of these outrageous allegations.

Bush is fighting back, as are many within his Administration. But they will never control the media (nor would I want them to), which unfortunately does powerfully influence what news (read: opinion) is presented and how it is presented. Yes, the bully pulpit can help, and Dubya could take lessons from the Great Communicator, but the main problem isn't with Dubya.

60 posted on 03/28/2006 8:24:46 AM PST by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: groovejedi
Get a tape and watch him in Cleveland, at the press conference, and in Wheeling.

Open your mind and watch them. IF you have seen them before (which I highly doubt, due to your last post about 'stumbling') you weren't really listening.

He also gave another statement today about Iraq.

61 posted on 03/28/2006 8:25:49 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

HAHA... Okay you got me..... NOT
Yout think that becasue I disagree with you on how well the Pres presented himself, that I exposed myself for a fraud and actually didn't see his "fighting back" last week? Now that's funny. Can no one here admit that the Pres. cannot articulate worth a damn especially for a POTUS and he hasn't changed in the last week.... now I'm ROFLMAO.


62 posted on 03/28/2006 8:26:15 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: farlander

Liberated? I suppose if you mean "liberated" to impose Sha'ria law and conduct ethnic cleansing....then I'm not surprised they're happy.


63 posted on 03/28/2006 8:27:31 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: groovejedi
Just pay attention next time when the President speaks.

And pay less attention to the left and that 'Bush is a dummie' stuff.

It makes you look kinda silly.

64 posted on 03/28/2006 8:28:48 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Coop

Here's what you said:
even I know that when you see the MSM up there bashing you're every move, you gotta get up there and fight back, and he ain't doin it.. and I never claimed to be the know it all.... I just notice that he's getting the heck beat out of him on the public ring and he needs to refute some of these outrageous allegations.

Bush is fighting back, as are many within his Administration. But they will never control the media (nor would I want them to), which unfortunately does powerfully influence what news (read: opinion) is presented and how it is presented. Yes, the bully pulpit can help, and Dubya could take lessons from the Great Communicator, but the main problem isn't with Dubya.

I am speaking of the president's comunication and public relation skills overall. And last week, I did not see much of a change in his presentation. Not enough to say, "Wow the president is fighting back" That opinion doesn't make me ignorant or a fraud.


65 posted on 03/28/2006 8:30:24 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: ohioWfan

I do pay attention to whent he Pres. Speaks, I always do when I can. And I laugh at the MSM when I do rarely watch them because they don't give him a chance...but the President is not fighting back (very well), no matter how well he spoke last week.


66 posted on 03/28/2006 8:32:22 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: george76
Well gee the former executioners and staffers of the Rape Rooms and Prisons don't like the changes in Iraq. Imagine that.
67 posted on 03/28/2006 8:32:52 AM PST by MNJohnnie (The Left has their own coalition, "The Coalition of the Whining". ---Beagle8U)
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To: groovejedi
So you'll take back the (stupid) 'stumbling over himself' part?

I mean.......NO one watching him speak last week would say that. And the fact that you DID say it made it look like you hadn't seen him at all.

To the point of whether or not he's fighting back........you may want him to get down and dirty, but he won't. He's more gracious than most of us are, but to say that he hasn't been fighting back, is just plain and simple wrong.

btw, it was HIS decision, against advice to release the Saddam tapes. The facts are coming out without his saying a word. THAT, groove........is fighting back.

68 posted on 03/28/2006 8:38:14 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Coop

and I agree that the main problem isn't with Dubya. It the MSM that he is having to fight and I merely said that he is losing that battle with them..

Yes he could learn quite a bit from Reagan's presentation style. But just because he gave a few decent speeches with "grace and intelligent answers", in one week, does not constitue a "fighting back" label. I still disagree that his speeches last week were graceful or well communicated. But a fraud am not...


69 posted on 03/28/2006 8:41:00 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: ohioWfan

But in the long run, are the people (in any great numbers) getting the message?
Okay so he may not have stumbled over himself as much as usual last week. But he's still not a great comunicator, and that makes a world of difference in trying to sway public opinion. It seems to me that last weeks speeches were okay, but they were no public opinion shifting remarks or great new plans that were so grand that they got natioanl media attention or public attnetion. None to turn the tide of public opinion in any of his speaking and definitely no grand differences in his speaking than normal.

All this is my opinion, but I do keep up with what he is saying and doing, and I compare it to the load megaphones that the press has, and who gets believed by the public? The Pres. or the MSM? And I know the the President can sway public opinion to the truth if he just fought back, and I mean fighting back harder than a few speeches and conferences in one week. Get out an around the country like he's campaigning and give motivational speeches about the WOT on a megaphone to crowds in cities nationwide, and it will get covered by the media.... and yes I am an armchair presidential advisor.... that's a joke, so nobody cut me down for typing that....


70 posted on 03/28/2006 8:49:59 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: groovejedi

and I'm going to lunch, so you "guys speak amongst yourselves".... lol /sarc. kinda

If you can't tell I like to kid around a lot, I have a sense of humor but I don't like to be called ignorant (even if I am) but can take it with a grain of salt. I'm just typing this, 'cause I know there will be responses to my idiotic rant that is emotionless maybe... but I value you all's opinion, and don't want you all to think I ran away. I will come back after lunch and see who all proves me wrong, I know it will happen...
until later.... have a great Bush Kinda day ") lol


71 posted on 03/28/2006 8:58:23 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: Ma3lst0rm

well said!


72 posted on 03/28/2006 9:10:02 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: groovejedi
What is communication? Is it being slicked tongued, or is it having people know exactly what you think and why?

After 9/11, no one will be able to convince me that President Bush has ANY problems with real communication. The difference is that some of us (you?) require slickness in your definition of communication skills. I don't.

The MSM will never show the President as he really is. They had to after 9/11, but the best thing they can do to make people hate him (which is their only goal) is to hide him, and show only soundbites that back up their template.

Ask the people in Cleveland or Wheeling if he communicated well. Ask them if they got the message.

Get out an around the country like he's campaigning and give motivational speeches about the WOT on a megaphone to crowds in cities nationwide, and it will get covered by the media....

This is exactly what he is doing. He only gets covered locally. The MSM continues their virtual ignore policy.

73 posted on 03/28/2006 9:10:10 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

It isn't slickness it is presenting your case and keeping people reinforced to believe in you and your ideas. This is where the President has failed. Is it fair? No, but since his enemies are not going to put their tails between their legs and run away in shame as they should if they had any President Bush is going to have to keep fighting back and motivating people. Motivation is important and it doesn't mean you have to lie or cheat, it means you sell yourself and your accomplishments in the best light. The President has a lot to be proud of Iraq is not falling apart and almost every milestone set in the plan for Iraq has been met to date, our economy is growing at an outstanding rate and unemployment is at record lows. The President's no child left behind policies have been a success even though I believe spending more money on education was unwarrented he has accomplished the raising of standards as was needed. Also the President's energy policy has been key to the resurgence of coal and in states like WV miners are being hired faster than they can be found. There is a lot to be proud of and that is what the President needs to remind the public of. Negativity is like a virus, people tend to believe the worst about things even if it is not true.

This President has faced the worst unjustified onslaught of any because of one thing the acquisition of power by the Democratic party. This same party gave President Clinton a get out of jail free card after his White House pulled the FBI files on political enemies, trumped up charges to fire the Travel Office staff, used his office to obtain sexual favors from underlings, ran the White House like a frat house, Vince Foster's suspicious death, White Water, Somalia, Bosnia, etc. We could go on probably week by week and identify REAL consistent political corruption but all that didn't matter.

Now when our soldiers need the support of the American people to do a job that was long over due after the most serious attack on American soil in our history the left have been let overwhelm the trenches and conduct a pysops war undeterred in what is becoming the second most serious terrorist attack on American soil by legions of traitors and cowards, who express open allegiance with the enemies of liberty, are not just attacking our physical wellbeing but the very soul of the country and the ability to do what is right in the face of a clear and present evil.


74 posted on 03/28/2006 9:36:37 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Iraq is not a failure. The Media is a failure.)
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To: Aquinasfan
IIRC, 19 of 19 9-11 hijackers were Sunni.
75 posted on 03/28/2006 10:56:00 AM PST by Blue State Insurgent (ABAJO FIDEL)
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To: ohioWfan

good explanation, Thanks.


76 posted on 03/28/2006 11:26:53 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: summer; Grampa Dave

"If you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons?

He's already demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons.

He poison-gassed his own people.

He used poison gas and other weapons of mass destruction against his neighbors.

This man has no compunction about killing lots and lots of people...."

-- Al Gore, Dec. 16, 1998


77 posted on 03/28/2006 6:54:33 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SmoothTalker

78 posted on 03/28/2006 6:56:11 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

this is extremely telling. thank you for posting it.


79 posted on 03/28/2006 8:46:31 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: farlander
" What a surprise! People who were pampered and in power feel bad that they're not anymore, and the oppressed are thrilled that they've been liberated."

I wonder how many Nazis were happy about the invasion of Germany?

80 posted on 03/28/2006 8:46:35 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: GodfearingTexan; Chgogal; river rat; freema; SJackson

Thanks for saying so.

It is too bad that the old media will never report this.

We just have to circulate to our friends and families.


81 posted on 03/28/2006 9:00:16 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Wouldn't it be neat to hear from the Iraqi kids : )


82 posted on 03/28/2006 9:12:58 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: george76
Do you have Lara Logan's email address? She'd love to hear some good news about Iraq. She only gets as far as her balcony because its so dangerous. ;)

Thanks for the post. I bookmarked it.
83 posted on 03/28/2006 9:31:23 PM PST by Chgogal (The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT lies about the Military and cowers...)
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To: george76

So are iraqi's subject to the same problems as the Afghanistan constitution? Is sharia law supreme even over universal human rights?


84 posted on 03/28/2006 10:23:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: freema
The Iraqi family speaks...Click on the photo.

 
 

85 posted on 03/29/2006 8:02:13 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Chgogal

Who is Lara Logan ?

See post number 85 with Betty's voice.


86 posted on 03/29/2006 8:13:03 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Snapping Turtle

Ping


87 posted on 03/29/2006 8:15:34 AM PST by Rabid Dog
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To: george76

The legacy media is going to have a bad day. Oh well for them.


88 posted on 03/29/2006 1:26:35 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: Ptarmigan

The stock holders have been losing money for a while.

They will soon lose some more money.

I just hope that mutual funds are not holding alot of their falling stock.


89 posted on 03/29/2006 1:29:00 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604974/posts

Lara is a CBS reporter. ;)

Thanks for the ping.


90 posted on 03/29/2006 9:24:45 PM PST by Chgogal (The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT lies about the Military and cowers...)
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