Mexican flag burned at Apache Junction HS

AZ Star Net ^ | March 31, 2006 | Blake Herzog

[SUSSA]

This thing better difuse or it is going to get ugly.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN

[catholicfreeper]

First off there is a lot one does not hear about in the media. Its been my view if the Republicans had done a little outreach and marketing to some Hispanics this issue would not be so explosive now and perhaps we could have a bill that did something. I have about given up hope on that.

I am not sure how a whole group of people apologizes and ask forgiveness from the nation. I saw a similar quote the other day. In fact, until recently I wasnt hearing alot people demand that they ask for "forgiveness". I certainly haven't seen people like my neighbors who have people landscaping their yard(that I suspect are illegal) go out and demand a apology. Perhaps when the spring landscaping is done they will do that lol.

The point being is that the entire Latino community is being viewed as some sort of group that marches and thinks alike sort of like the borg or something. They have concerns but I don't think they feel obligated as Americans to apologize when some idiot kid raises a Mexican flag over some school.

Again what we are seeing is nothing. If the entire Latino community was enraged that would be really noticed.

[catholicfreeper]

Thats interesting you said that. I have thought the whole issue of Indians was interesting. They had a guy from Sun systems saying that we needed the real educated Indians over here because of a possibilty of a future "brain deficit" as to high tech. This was on CNN a few weeks back. I forgot the kinda of visa he was talking about.

[Pro-Bush]

if the Republicans had done a little outreach and marketing to some Hispanics this issue would not be so explosive

Oh! It's the REPUBLICANS fault. Your true colors are shining through. I suspected, now confirmed!!

[panaxanax]

Good post, thank you.

Any way of getting Jacob Stewart's and his friends addresses? We should start a fund for these guys. Anyone else willing to donate a few bucks?

[backhoe]

Crosslinked:

For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:

( PS- my personal prediction? That picture will become one of the most widely distributed, and hated, pictures on the internet. The Illegal Invader lobby could not have done more damage to themselves with that "Mexican Flag Superior, America in Distress" shot if they had tried... )

[antceecee]

I think trolling is your advocation.
Republicans could outreach to you day and night and would achieve nada.
This 'issue' is not due to the lack of proper marketing by Republicans to Hispanics! Sheesh!
Your statement implies that had we 'kissed your butts' there would be no La Marcha! What a crock!
No one is asking the "group" to apologise. That would be an 'individual' decision to be made by the immigrant. We do not immigrate 'groups' we immigrate individuals. The fact that some were here and worked illegally to landscape some scummy criminal employers yard, does not automatically translate to instant citizenship.
Oh and the idiot kid who raised the Mexican flag did this because his idiot illegal parents coached him or her to do it. RESPONSIBILITY... learn it, use it in your daily life, I promise you it will make everything better.
Oh..and I take this line in your comment as a veiled threat, not exactly going to win friends and influence people with this one:
" Again what we are seeing is nothing. If the entire Latino community was enraged that would be really noticed."

[catholicfreeper]

My true colors? Well its the truth. I dont see a lot of Dems really leading the charge on border security. It sort of up to us to sell the idea since we are in power isn't it. I mean thats how this whole democracy thing works. I don't expect Nancy Pelosi to care about this issue as much as Conservatives and Republicans do. So yeah we are in power and its our job to market the proposal to the American people. I hate to put it in such free enterprse terms but its the truth.

[sociotard]

Count me among the peace-lovers. The Mexican flag shouldn't have been over ours, but if, say, an irish flag were hoisted under it, nobody would get all riled up.

"But there aren't Irish people sneaking across the atlantic to steal our jobs."

Not anymore, but thats the exact mentality that used to exist.

Or how about another example: The Confederate Flag. Now there's a country that no longer exists, and when that country did exist it was a bitter enemy of the Union. Now there are quite a few people that would object to that flag being flown under our flag, but not quite so many on this board. If it were raised and some dems tore it down and burned it, a whole bunch of people here would be . . . irate.

[antceecee]

I see you live up to your name.

[Pro-Bush]

My true colors?

I know they aren't red-white & Blue.

[antceecee]

crickets.....

[meadsjn]

The same a-holes who are lobbying for illegals have created a fake 'shortage' of tech people to drive the wages down just like with the more menial jobs.

This subject is a whole different thread ...

Perhaps a different thread, but it's all part of the same strategic action when you look at the big picture -- that is the deliberate destruction of the American middle class.

Anyway, teenagers are not stupid, especially when they are getting gob-smacked every day with anti-American communist propaganda. Some of them will eventually start smacking back. That's a sign of hope for America, because too many of the older people have either lost their gonads, or they are helping sell out the nation to our enemies.

[Pro-Bush]

Crickets or kitties?

[catholicfreeper]

I am sorry if I have offended you. First, how is what I am saying a veiled threat. I am not even Latino. But I am taking a deep breath and trying to see what we are dealing with thats all. Right now the numbers are not huge in my opinion of protestors.

I am for strong border enforcement. I am for knowing who is here. I am for a orderly immigration program. I am not for the current situation. I do know that certain magazines that my wife has received has no Republican advertising on it. I know that the typical Latino Republican outreach the PArty has done so well in the past has not been done in the part of the media. Why is it wrong to point that out. Why do you assume I want open borders. I don't.

Outreach is not "kissing ones butt" as you put it. Its explaining the pro's of your position.

Again, I am issuing no veiled threat. I am pointing out a fact. Isnt that fact that some don't view what we are seeing as some mass Latino public disobedience movement a good thing. I think so.

[antceecee]

Our kids already see it and they are ready to battle for what is theirs. I think we have a great young generation ready to take on the responsibilites of citizenship. Many are serving our country in Iraq and Afganistan.
God bless them, every one.

[Smokin' Joe]

It is one I make a point of reading to the grandkids.

[catholicfreeper]

To be honest you dont know a hill of beans about me. What I have advocated on this thread thats so anti red ,white, and blue. That we dont applaud personal destruction of property and teenagers burning flags. Thats all. Thats ok in my book and makes me a Republican and a Conservative in good standing. What else have I advocated. Outreach into the Latino community and to market our ideas toward them. I have no interest in seeing a group that should vote Republican by a good percentage go Democrat like the black vote did. The Republican party screwed that up in the 20's over something stupid and we have still been paying the price for that one.

[antceecee]

The political parties of the sovereign United States owe NO outreach to those who are here ILLEGALLY. My dear friends who are Latino and LEGAL want no part of this illegal invasion. They are as angry about it as I am.
I don't know what literature your wife reads, but why should it contain Republican advertising? I read a lot of magazines; fashion, business and political and I never look for a political party's ads - nor would I vote for someone because they advertised in one. Don't you have a television? You can tune into any major news channel and get the Republican message. You demanding outreach by representatives of US citizens to law-breakers is unreasonable (actually it's outrageous)...and yes, expecting our government to outreach to illegals by having to explain their positions is asking them to kiss butt... sorry they represent the legal citizens of the US and you are asking them to kiss the wrong a@@.
As to your last sentence "If the entire Latino community was enraged that would be really noticed." ... reads like a veiled threat to me. Are you sure you didn't just mosey on over from DU????
The rest of your post is difficult to understand.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Is it okay to say HELL YES!!!!! ?