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LIVE THREAD: French Riots
April 4, 2006 | FR

Posted on 04/04/2006 10:33:28 AM PDT by Peach

Post your observations here.

Richard Miniter was on FNC and said that even if an employee is caught on videotape stealing from their employers, they cannot be fired.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: eurabia; france; french; frogs; girlieguys; girliemen; nannystate; opendoorimmigration; parisriots; riots; socialism; vichi; vichifrance; yoots
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To: Peach
Rioting and disorderliness is just another symptom of the breakdown in respect for proper authority. It is the natural fate of a society which has rebeled against God who is the source of all proper authority.

The supposed grievance of the French rioters is hardly relevant. This is simply a rage against authority from an apostate, post-Christian society whose new god is the state which is supposed to feed the insatiable sense of entitlement now ubiquitous in much of western Europe.

The next step in such societal decay is usually increased anarchy followed by the emergence of some despot or demigod who promises to satisfy all the wants and needs of the disatisfied, provided they embrace his twisted ideology.

451 posted on 04/04/2006 2:04:10 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: onyx

Well that IS disappointing. I thought surely I'd return to find a few fires or something. Even in rioting, the French are lazy.


452 posted on 04/04/2006 2:04:59 PM PDT by Peach
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To: CygnusXI
"Good way to gash open your leg/artery and bleed to death frog. "

Is there where frogs' legs come from?

453 posted on 04/04/2006 2:05:08 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Darwin Award winner 2006.


454 posted on 04/04/2006 2:06:16 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: LikeLight

Why would the foreign press in Paris want to travel to dreary old Lyon or Clermont-Ferrand?


455 posted on 04/04/2006 2:06:23 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Peach


LOL!


456 posted on 04/04/2006 2:08:16 PM PDT by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: mass55th

I mean: "Is this where frogs' legs come from?"


457 posted on 04/04/2006 2:09:50 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Peach
For some strange reason, I just don't feel sorry for them. Normally, I would condemn this type of behavior, and do here, except when they started picking on the MSM, I wanted to join in and release years of built up frustration at them!!!
458 posted on 04/04/2006 2:10:59 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Democrats: The communist, socialist, and Al Qaeda loving party of America.)
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To: maggief

459 posted on 04/04/2006 2:12:23 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Catholic Canadian
From what we saw on TV, it didn't seem the Mounties were cracking heads.

Glad to hear they were. Those pictures would go a long way towards reminding protesters what's waiting for them.

460 posted on 04/04/2006 2:15:09 PM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Petronski
Well, you'd think the Press would want to be in Lille, for the dustbin burning festival...

Protestors in Lille, northern France, Tuesday April 4, 2006 burn dustbins following a students' demonstration against the French government's new labor law. Police said at least 1 million people poured into the streets across France on Tuesday and youths clashed with riot officers in the latest protests against the government's new jobs law. (AP Photo/Michel Spingler)

461 posted on 04/04/2006 2:18:23 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Peach
"Even in rioting, the French are lazy."

So it's more or less petered out huh? Wonder if they're planning another round next Tuesday.

462 posted on 04/04/2006 2:18:45 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Catholic Canadian

You changed your screen name!

Good job. Do you still get my pings?


463 posted on 04/04/2006 2:18:46 PM PDT by fanfan ( We have become the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world.)
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To: Lekker 1

There are other places for satire than Scrappleface.

IOW, it's not true.


464 posted on 04/04/2006 2:19:48 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: LikeLight

Great idea there, Jacques, burning vinyl. LOL



Breathe deeply!


465 posted on 04/04/2006 2:20:56 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

Actually, it was along the route from the Place de la Republique to the Place d'Italie, so 3rd, 4th, 5th, down to 13th. The city is not all aflame, this is in pretty avoidable areas. It is as if the post-Rodney King riots were extrapolated to mean the US was a no-go zone. That said, there are some very violent "casseurs" coming in from the suburban ghettos to capitalize on the chaos. They have nothing better to do because literally 50% of them are unemployed. The strict French labor laws essentially keep them on the dole, where idle hands are the devil's playground...


466 posted on 04/04/2006 2:21:39 PM PDT by austinTparty
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This has been a bizarro year. First you see deadly riots, the recall of ambassadors, and massive boycotts over cartoons in a rinky dink newspaper half a world away. Then you see scores of young folks rioting over the idea that an employer would actually have the right to pick who he chooses to employ. If I didn't know better i'd swear I was reading the Onion.


467 posted on 04/04/2006 2:22:21 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Petronski
And I want to see at least some pics of this (from a fresh AFP article)...

In the south of the capital, dozens of trouble-makers hurled paving stones and bottles at riot police, who fired tear gas. At least nine police officers were slightly injured.

More serious incidents broke out in Lille, in the north, where hundreds of youths hurled missiles at the riot police, smashed shop windows and vandalised cars, although the situation was calmer by around 8:00 pm (1800 GMT).

A female television reporter was assaulted while filming the violence and a young man suffered burn injuries from the shell of a tear gas grenade.

Police in Rennes, in the northwest, also fired tear gas at protestors after they were targeted with bottles and stones as youths set garbage cans on fire and smashed bus shelters and windows.

Firefighters said they had evacuated at least three people, including one hit with a rubber bullet.

In the northern city of Caen, a photographer was injured in clashes between police and demonstrators who had set up a roadblock on the ring road.

I feel like I'm being left out of all the excitement.

468 posted on 04/04/2006 2:24:44 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: austinTparty

I was in the 4th and 5th on foot this evening..nothing. Nothing as far as the could see from just east of the Notre-Dame to the south. It was much more isolated then anyone imagines.


469 posted on 04/04/2006 2:40:38 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Peach
Linkin' & Lurkin'... regards to you, Peach--
470 posted on 04/04/2006 2:42:22 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: mass55th; All
I've been rummaging around at communist sites while this was going on and ran across the following. You may find it interesting. French youth and student revolt
471 posted on 04/04/2006 2:52:01 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Peach


FYI, some stories and analysis of:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/french_riots.htm


472 posted on 04/04/2006 2:52:30 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: Peach; LikeLight

Last week in Paris. Evil Muslim punks abusing stupid French protestors in broad daylight. Like wolves, they would just get a protestor separated from the herd and then move in swiftly for the attack.

40 posted on 04/01/2006 9:12:42 PM PST by LikeLight

473 posted on 04/04/2006 2:56:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: dead

Classic !


474 posted on 04/04/2006 3:04:39 PM PDT by dagnabbit (George Bush deported my children to Amerexico.)
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To: Earthdweller

It was only in the 4th and 5th during the protest march... it's certainly not in most areas, you're right. You might want to avoid the area around the Sorbonne, though... not far off the Latin Quarter. The CRS (the serious cops) are not in the mood to play games. :-) Enjoy your visit! Hope you took advantage of the sales last week!


475 posted on 04/04/2006 3:19:27 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: LikeLight
>>Protestors in Lille, northern France, Tuesday April 4, 2006 b <<

Looks like lotsa muzzies.

Nah..religion of piece and all that.

476 posted on 04/04/2006 3:26:37 PM PDT by evad
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To: onyx

LOLOLOLOLOL


477 posted on 04/04/2006 3:27:29 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: cyborg


I'm not certain, he 'got it' but I think he did...lol.


478 posted on 04/04/2006 3:32:02 PM PDT by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: onyx

I got it. ;oP


479 posted on 04/04/2006 3:33:17 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: LikeLight

That'll show those dustbins, a repressive symbol of something-or-other.


480 posted on 04/04/2006 3:36:55 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Peach
...even if an employee is caught on videotape stealing from their employers, they cannot be fired.

P But, can they be shot?

481 posted on 04/04/2006 3:46:38 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: mass55th

Ah, Normandy, we LOVED Normandy. The people there seemed to love the Americans, remember being occupied and our soldiers there. It is clean, small, wonderful WW2 history. Have a great time.


482 posted on 04/04/2006 4:01:45 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

Thanks bboop.


483 posted on 04/04/2006 4:06:40 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

I just don't get it! Why are they behaving this way? There is really only one answer and that is that they are a bunch of idiots. It almost reminds me of those other Idiots, those "hooded youths." The horse is out of the barn. I hope you have been to France because France as we knew it, even as rude as it was, is now a cesspool.


484 posted on 04/04/2006 4:08:47 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: onyx; All
40% are without jobs? Well, WHOSE fault is that?

The governments. Prior to the new law, an employer would actually have to have an employee on video stealing in order to fire him (not just because of bankruptcy).

Because of the extreme difficulty in firing bad employees, business owners have been reluctant to hire anyone at all, even to expand a business because they never know who they might get stuck with.

My information comes from a co-worker who is French (now a US citizen), who used to own a business in France. He left the country because of laws like that. He also got tired of the French government letting every third world turd into the country.

The new law will actually reduce unemployment because business owners will be able to fire non-performing workers during those first two years. Businesses will not be so hesitant to expand the workforce. French socialist will have to get out of bed before noon if they want to keep their jobs.

485 posted on 04/04/2006 4:11:14 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: PsyOp


Thank you for the information!


486 posted on 04/04/2006 4:14:15 PM PDT by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: bill1952

No, actually Mr. Semmens confirmed that it is a parody.


487 posted on 04/04/2006 5:08:17 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Peach

"ROFL! I'll open some wine but does it HAVE to be French wine :-)"

Actually if you read the label on the bottle of wine, there is another good laugh.

So any Ny, Ca, Or, Wa, Aussie or Chileian wine will do!


488 posted on 04/04/2006 5:21:03 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: mass55th

de rien.


489 posted on 04/04/2006 5:26:36 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: debg

AHAHAHA

490 posted on 04/04/2006 5:57:24 PM PDT by M203M4
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To: dead

Great job, Dead!

I'm still laughing...


491 posted on 04/04/2006 7:52:54 PM PDT by CDB (MSM = "controversy, crap and confusion" (based on a quote by Alan Simpson))
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To: jackadams
This is going to happen here if we don't make those idiots on the hill do their job and deport illegals.

I doubt it.
You know why? The illegal Mexicans are willing to work. And most of 'em work hard - much harder, in fact, than typical American lardasses. In France, it is the French citizens, for the most part, who are rioting: Lazy-ass dependents on the cradle-to-grave welfare state.

492 posted on 04/04/2006 11:32:06 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Peach

"caught on videotape stealing from their employers, they cannot be fired"

Sounds like the place my husband works. The Union fights to keep people that were caught stealing from being fired. And yes, on videotape. True story.


493 posted on 04/05/2006 5:17:49 AM PDT by bella1
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To: maggief

I'm glad to see that Janeane Garafalo is staying busy.

494 posted on 04/05/2006 6:06:59 AM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Peach

Ironically, six months ago Muslim immigrants rioted because of massive unemployment in France. Now the French politicians are doing something about it and white French people are rioting.

This is a case study in the basic economic truth that "progressive" laws that "protect" workers - like lifetime job protection - are really about protecting white workers from competition with minorities and immigrants.


495 posted on 04/05/2006 6:32:36 AM PDT by Jibaholic (We wouldn't let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? -- Josef Stalin)
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To: bill1952
"The fruits of Socialism, and its concomitant, multi-culturalism, unfurling before our eyes."

Of course. It's also a product of the concerted, organized attack on American manhood over the past 40 years.

The attack has been on our boys. Using primarily the public education system, and Hollywood, the majority of modern American boys will never grow up to be traditional American men.

For socialism to prevail new American men can never believe in the ideas of honor, dignity and "rugged individualism". The "new American man" is a metrosexual, effiminate, childlike, dependent, lacking Protestant values and believes in the new doctrine of "sacrificing self for the larger good of the state".

"Rugged individualism" and Protestantism are toxic to socialism. Those are the values which prevented socialism from taking greater hold in the 1930's. They have been targeted for destruction since the end of WWII.

The are having success. Never has Protestantism been so weak in effecting American culture and politics. Never have American men been so effeminate and unwilling to fight for principle.

496 posted on 04/05/2006 6:39:07 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mark Felton
Never have American men been so effeminate and unwilling to fight for principle.

You nailed it.

497 posted on 04/05/2006 6:51:04 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Jibaholic
"This is a case study in the basic economic truth that "progressive" laws that "protect" workers - like lifetime job protection - are really about protecting white workers from competition with minorities and immigrants."

Nicely put. Union rules tend to have a similar effect in that they make things great for a relatively small number of workers, while making them worse for much larger numbers of others.

498 posted on 04/05/2006 6:55:00 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: M203M4

LOL. That guy from New Orleans just can't keep out of trouble!


499 posted on 04/05/2006 11:25:45 AM PDT by jackadams
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To: Fred Nerks

Diaper heads, they have manure for brains. I wish Chirac the courage to rid these punks and export their ass to Syria or someplace that needs barn cleaning folk. Chirac, talk to Australia about being true to your country. Love it or get the hell out! Its time for Chirac to show some Tough Love!


500 posted on 04/05/2006 11:54:29 AM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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