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Police Uncover New Duke Lacrosse E-Mail (SHOCK EMAIL)
Breit Bart ^ | 04/05/2006 | EMERY P. DALESIO

Posted on 04/05/2006 12:54:43 PM PDT by Porsche060

Police Uncover New Duke Lacrosse E-Mail Apr 05 3:15 PM US/Eastern Email this story

By EMERY P. DALESIO Associated Press Writer

DURHAM, N.C.

Hours after an exotic dancer was allegedly raped by members of the Duke University lacrosse team, a player apparently sent an e-mail saying he wanted to invite more strippers to his dorm room, kill them and skin them. It was not clear whether the message was serious or a joke.

Investigators did not return calls seeking comment about the nature of the e-mail. But a lawyer for the player who purportedly wrote it said the content suggests his client is innocent.

"While the language of the e-mail is vile, the e-mail itself is perfectly consistent with the boys' unequivocal assertion that no sexual assault took place that evening," said attorney Robert Ekstrand. The e-mail "demonstrates that its writer is completely unaware that any act or event remotely similar to what has been alleged ever occurred."

No charges have been filed in the case, which has roiled the campus and the community and led the school to suspend the lacrosse team from play.

The e-mail, according to an application for a search warrant of the player's dorm room, was sent from his Duke e-mail account just before 2 a.m. on March 14. Police said investigators received a copy from a confidential source, though they later won a court order seeking access to the account.

In the e-mail, addressed "To whom it may concern," the player says he has "decided to have some strippers over" to his dorm room, "however there will be no nudity."

"I plan on killing the bitches as soon as the walk in and proceding to cut their skin off," the author of the e-mail says, adding in vulgar terms that he would find the act sexually satisfying.

The e-mail was signed with what police said is the player's jersey number.

The warrant for the player's room was made public on Wednesday. In it, police provide a detailed timeline of the alleged attack and some additional details of their investigation. The warrant also adds conspiracy to commit murder as one of the crimes police are investigating.

The dancer, a student at a nearby university, has told police she was raped at the party by three men who restrained and choked her in a bathroom.

Investigators have collected DNA from 46 of the 47 team members. The team's lone black member did not provide a sample because the dancer, who is black, said her attackers were white. A spokeswoman for the state attorney general's office said Wednesday the analysis has not been completed.

The lacrosse team's co-captains have denied that anyone was sexually assaulted at the party, as have attorneys for the players.

According to the warrant, the alleged victim told police she believes the players used false names and falsely claimed to be members of Duke's baseball and track teams. A team captain and resident of the house where the party took place told police he used an alias when hiring the dancers at the party, the warrant states.


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1 posted on 04/05/2006 12:54:45 PM PDT by Porsche060
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To: Porsche060

Time for these spoiled brat Dook-ies to grow up.


2 posted on 04/05/2006 12:57:13 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Porsche060

Some things are best left undocumented.


3 posted on 04/05/2006 12:57:34 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Porsche060

"The e-mail "demonstrates that its writer is completely unaware that any act or event remotely similar to what has been alleged ever occurred."

Or inclined to step up his sick thrills.


4 posted on 04/05/2006 12:58:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Porsche060

Uffda! If he wasn't serious, he's still seriously stupid to write such a thing.

This will not endear him to those looking for a reason to hate privileged white boy athletes, I'd guess.


5 posted on 04/05/2006 12:59:29 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Porsche060
"While the language of the e-mail is vile, the e-mail itself is perfectly consistent with the boys' unequivocal assertion that no sexual assault took place that evening," said attorney Robert Ekstrand. The e-mail "demonstrates that its writer is completely unaware that any act or event remotely similar to what has been alleged ever occurred."

Hm. I'd say precisely the opposite -- that the guy is at least aware of the allegations, and is making light of them.

6 posted on 04/05/2006 12:59:39 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Swanks
Ok...

But if this kind of information can be released why can't a summary of the results of the DNA tests be released. This is like trying the case in the media by pointing out how stupid some of these guys are without proof that they are criminals. I have no sympathy for any of them who raped anyone. On the other hand, so far no one has been charged much less indicted.
7 posted on 04/05/2006 1:03:28 PM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Porsche060
But a lawyer for the player who purportedly wrote it said the content suggests his client is innocent.

And this email can prove this how? Was there DNA on it?

8 posted on 04/05/2006 1:04:46 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Porsche060

Silence of the Lambs part re-dux...........


9 posted on 04/05/2006 1:06:30 PM PDT by Red Badger (I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.....)
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To: taxesareforever
And this email can prove this how?

He didn't say "prove", he said "suggest."

it suggests his client is innocent because if his client had actually committed a real violent crime immediately beforehand he wouldn't be writing emails callously joking about vicious crimes.

Unless he was insane - which is also a defense.

10 posted on 04/05/2006 1:09:58 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Porsche060

Someone has some problems. Duke has to be the most expensive university to go to. You just pay for the name recognition. No offense to any Duke alumni.


11 posted on 04/05/2006 1:16:25 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: Porsche060

What I think the email shows is that immediately after the party the lacrosse players are very angry and believe themselves to have been wronged by the strippers (not vice versa). This is consistent with the version of the incident coming from the lacrosse players side, i.e., that the strippers came and were paid but did not perform (at least for long) and left early, and nobody raped her.

What might have happened, short of rape, is that when the one stripper went back in to get her shoes, some players demanded their money back and got into a physical fight with her, and took at least some of the money back (which could explain at least the bruises and lost fingernails on the one stripper).


12 posted on 04/05/2006 1:25:46 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Porsche060
It was not clear whether the message was serious or a joke.

Even if it was a joke he needs to be expelled from school FOREVER !

13 posted on 04/05/2006 1:29:03 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." -- Albert Einstein)
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To: Porsche060

She knew she was raped when the check bounced (sarc). Or, in this case, when it was obvious that she wasn't gonna get a big tip. I'll believe this rape accusation when a trial is held and a conviction obtained, not before.


15 posted on 04/05/2006 1:49:33 PM PDT by anton
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

"Even if it was a joke he needs to be expelled from school FOREVER !"

Yea, that's good approach to free speech which is obviously sarcastic.


16 posted on 04/05/2006 1:50:54 PM PDT by anton
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To: RedEyeJack
But if this kind of information can be released why can't a summary of the results of the DNA tests be released.

Some DNA must have been found on the victim or else why would they test the team?

First level of test is blood type, if the blood type of a team member does not match that of the sample then that guy is eliminated. The in depth comparison should be back soon and I think there is a good chance that none of the team members will be indicated. If that is so

17 posted on 04/05/2006 2:00:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Mike Darancette

If they don't find DNA from members of the team, they should get their money back.


18 posted on 04/05/2006 2:36:41 PM PDT by anton
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To: wideawake

So "suggests" is not equal to "proves"? I really believe that is what the lawyer was alluding to. They do this in court all the time.


19 posted on 04/05/2006 2:56:29 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Porsche060; Howlin; Constitution Day; TaxRelief
Foot...meet mouth. I don't know and this point don't care if these guys are guilty. But some of these Duke students seem more disturbed by the day

she believes the players used false names and falsely claimed to be members of Duke's baseball and track teams

Why didn't they use names from the football team?!? Nobody has ever heard of them!! ;)

20 posted on 04/05/2006 3:00:38 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Porsche060
Saw on Drudge that the lacross head coach resigned. President accepted the resignation.

Curious... was the coach at the party, did he plan it, did he cover anything up? Seems odd that the President of the univ. would accept the resignation indicating it is best for the team/school.

Maybe the reason is for lack of institutional control? If the coach had nothing to do with this event and the aftermath... I would have resigned not to save the univ, but to get the heck out of the seedy situation.

21 posted on 04/05/2006 4:18:32 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: anton; sgribbley
Yea, that's good approach to free speech which is obviously sarcastic.

Sarcastic ? What ever happened to responsibility going with free speech ? Think you should go and tell someone anyone all their loved ones died in a car accident when it didn't happen ? free speech isn't worth shat without someone old enough to understand responsibility !

Back when i was a kid your freedom was given you a little at a time so that you could learn how to use your freedom properly today it's given from birth without any form of measure for a child to control it nor the maturity of restraint NO RESPONSIBILITY cause's your freedom to be a curse upon you and those you effect with it ....

Common sense used to rule the day in situations such as these all the time common sense was something i used to enjoy seeing in people today common sense is thrown to the wind along with anything else trivial to being civilized !

22 posted on 04/05/2006 4:52:13 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." -- Albert Einstein)
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To: RedEyeJack

I don't think the results are in yet on the DNA. One article said that charges were likely next week pending DNA evidence.


23 posted on 04/05/2006 4:54:01 PM PDT by katiebelle
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To: Porsche060

E-mail or no e-mail, I believe the victim went to the hospital. The DNA will prove innocence or guilt.


24 posted on 04/05/2006 4:54:57 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Porsche060

Those fun loving boys... I was in a frat in college, and there were a couple of incidents like this, except the women weren't physically restrained, at least according to the rumors. The women were drunk, and were sexually assaulted in very degrading ways. The guys involved were real low-lifes. Police finally cracked down on frat drinking when the city police chief's 16-year-old daughter got drunk at a frat party.


25 posted on 04/05/2006 5:07:13 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Even if it was a joke he needs to be expelled from school FOREVER !

Why? It was in a private e-mail. Whatever happened to freedom of speech and the right to privacy?

26 posted on 04/05/2006 6:40:25 PM PDT by demoRat watcher (Keeper of the Anthropocentrism Ping List)
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Why? It was in a private e-mail. Whatever happened to freedom of speech and the right to privacy?

I don't know if you can consider the school's server private email. The police managed to obtain a search warrant in any case.

27 posted on 04/05/2006 6:45:08 PM PDT by LWalk18
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Maybe I don't get it. I was in a wild frat in college. Lots of wrestlers in our house. If a guy had said or written something like that, he would have been thought of as a weird sicko. I only graduated in 2000.


28 posted on 04/05/2006 7:04:25 PM PDT by voreddy
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To: Aquinasfan
Here in Tampa several years ago a similar situation, a stripper at a private party full of frat boys, she got drunk and supposedly passed out. The "Stripper" was then violated with an assortment of objects. Three of the boys made plea agreements for lesser charges, and the fourth decided to go to trial. It seemed his goose was cooked, until the "stripper" admitted getting into an argument with the frat boys after the fact that she was owed $400.00 and car fare home, of which the boys refused to pay. Needless to say the jury acquitted the lad.
29 posted on 04/05/2006 7:13:41 PM PDT by JABBERBONK
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To: Porsche060

Real classy.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 8:15:50 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Porsche060

a rather odd bizarre e-mail

this whole thing is bizarre


31 posted on 04/05/2006 9:20:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (Beautify America ....Deport a RINO today!....somewhere so bad they can't screw it up..Haiti?)
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To: demoRat watcher

What on the internet is private ?

And aparently who ever received the email thought it was serious enough to report that brings it out of the private realm and into the public.

I can't beleive someone would defend the planning of a torturous murder.

What if your child was the stripper ?

OOPS there goes that ability to think ! pesky thinking always gets in the way don't it ?


32 posted on 04/06/2006 2:39:43 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." -- Albert Einstein)
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To: Ptarmigan
No offense taken from this Duke alum. After my 9 years at Duke, I was for 14 years a professor at a large land grant so I know the different environments. Because Duke is more selective, the students are more uniformly prepared for university-level work. The faculty can expect to push them a lot harder and can hold them to a higher standard of academic achievement. I invested 14 years in a land grant so I'm not slamming them - their mission is defined differently from the private universities and they are going to take a wider variety of applicants some of whom, through no fault of their own, are less well prepared and are going to play a little catch up. As a prof that means that during a semester you can't take a class quite as far as you like.

The other thing you get a place like Duke is a nationwide network of contacts that last your entire life. For the ambitious, that can be extremely valuable.

I lived in Edens for 7 of my 8 undergraduate semesters. It's a closely packed residential dorm. We all knew each others business including who had a "guest" in the room. No way you could get away with anything like what's described in the e-mail. It's hyperbolic, figurative and offensive. But people do that all the time. My parents used to tell me that if I didn't straighten up they were "going to skin me alive", and which of you hasn't said you were going to "kill your professor" after receiving a bad grade? Unfortunately, this is really bad timing for such excessive language.

33 posted on 04/06/2006 7:13:10 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: anton

It was reported that the ER doctor said her injuries were consistent with rape.


34 posted on 04/06/2006 9:21:06 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

I have an open mind on this, but consensual sex with a bunch of college guys at a frat party is also gonna be consistent with the physical symptoms of rape as well. She obviously didn't have any significant injuries or we would have heard about them, like broken bones, or hosptial admission type stuff. Most real rapes result in a victim that is seriously injured separate from the sex. Payment disputes and the like generate telephone calls and trips to do the rape kit examination. But I remain open to the facts.


35 posted on 04/06/2006 1:29:21 PM PDT by anton
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To: Locomotive Breath
It's a closely packed residential dorm. We all knew each others business including who had a "guest" in the room. No way you could get away with anything like what's described in the e-mail.

except it was Spring Break at Duke--would the dorm not be empty?

36 posted on 04/06/2006 1:38:37 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Only in New Jersey!)
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To: anton

I remain open to facts also. But my guess is it happened.


37 posted on 04/06/2006 1:47:50 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: anton
I have an open mind on this, but consensual sex with a bunch of college guys at a frat party is also gonna be consistent with the physical symptoms of rape as well.

Remember, the players are claiming they never had sex with her, so that wouldn't be possible if they are to be believed. Either they didn't touch her at all (their account) or she was raped (her account). There is no consenual sex defense here that remains credible.

38 posted on 04/06/2006 1:55:15 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: LWalk18

I didn't hear that they had made any statement. I doubt their lawyer would let them make a statement before they have been charged, but I agree that a statement that "nothing occurred" would be inconsistent with physical evidence of rape.


39 posted on 04/06/2006 2:22:35 PM PDT by anton
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To: LWalk18

How about she was working her "profession" with several partners before she showed up at the lax party? How about she had consensual sex with several Duke students but not lax team members? Lots of scenarios. It's also possible that, if there was a rape, it was not lax team members but she thought that they were?


40 posted on 04/06/2006 2:39:16 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Neverforget01

Fair enough but since Duke has students from all over it doesn't necessarily clear out quite as much as other more regional schools.


41 posted on 04/06/2006 2:40:45 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath
How about she was working her "profession" with several partners before she showed up at the lax party? How about she had consensual sex with several Duke students but not lax team members? Lots of scenarios. It's also possible that, if there was a rape, it was not lax team members but she thought that they were?

I think you missed my point. The lax players, the ones who have given DNA samples, have stated that they did not have sex with her, consenual or otherwise. If their DNA shows up inside of her, then that would be a great blow to their case- they can't then turn around and say "Oh yeah, I guess I did have sex with her." Credibility in rape cases is very important, since consent cannot often be proven solely by physical evidence. Of course if there is semen from other parties and not the Duke lax players, it would prove them credible and IMO should end the investigation.

42 posted on 04/06/2006 4:11:25 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Locomotive Breath

I wonder if many of those students at Duke just made it because they cheated their way while in high school. I am sure there are many Duke students who earned it get in.


43 posted on 04/06/2006 4:38:59 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: Neverforget01

When I was in college, dorms were not really empty during spring break. Also, during spring break there was South by Southwest, which kept students in town.


44 posted on 04/06/2006 4:39:55 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: wideawake

I disagree. Remember Robert Chambers the Preppy Murderer? After he was accused of killing Jennifer Levin, he was videoed at an all girl slumber party where he pretended to strangle a doll. The doll's head came off and he was recorded saying, "Ooops, I think I killed it!" Jennifer had been strangled and raped. He claimed consentual rough sex. He was convicted of murder and sentenced to 15 years.

I don't know the guilt or innocence of the Duke Lacrosse player, but I can see a guilty person sending an email like that one.


45 posted on 04/06/2006 5:00:57 PM PDT by kalee
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To: LWalk18

Agreed. If she has LAX DNA inside her then the jig is up.


46 posted on 04/06/2006 6:08:29 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Ptarmigan
Well, I think you can cheat your way out of high school while getting mediocre grades, but I don't think that the kind of credentials needed to get into Duke can be gotten by cheating. If you are at the top of your h.s. class, as many Dukies are, from whom are you going to cheat?
47 posted on 04/06/2006 6:11:42 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

When I was high school, we had 10 Valedictorians. Most schools have one or two. We had a GPA system for Academic (Regular), Honors, and Gifted and Talented. We used a 7 point GPA system, which is weird. Then the only person I knew who went to Duke was a Valedictorian, but he also got into other good schools, but chose Duke.


48 posted on 04/06/2006 6:58:30 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

It is stupid to write down sadistic, homocidal, sexual fantasies, but it is not a crime unless there is TRUE intent to do harm.


49 posted on 04/07/2006 7:34:01 AM PDT by demoRat watcher (Keeper of the Anthropocentrism Ping List)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

It is stupid to write down sadistic, homicidal, sexual fantasies, but it is not a crime unless there is TRUE intent to do harm.


50 posted on 04/07/2006 7:34:20 AM PDT by demoRat watcher (Keeper of the Anthropocentrism Ping List)
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